Toffee. Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 [center][img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120914120057/yugioh/images/thumb/5/55/FeelingsTowardstheFuture-DP13-JP-R.png/300px-FeelingsTowardstheFuture-DP13-JP-R.png[/img] [quote][center]Target 3 monsters with different Levels in your Graveyard; Special Summon those targets. Their ATK becomes 0, and their effects are negated. During the End Phase, if you did not Xyz Summon this turn, you lose 4000 Life Points. You cannot Special Summon other monsters the turn you activate this card, except by Xyz Summon.[/center][/quote][/center] Aside from an obligatory Galaxy Queen's Light, there has to be some way this can be abused. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Obelisk, use another, Double Summon, Obelisk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut - Envoy of the End Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Interesting that you don't have to Xyz summon using all three summoned monsters. You could just normal summon something (using one or even two of the monsters as tribute if you so wish) and Xyz with the third. Two card Giant Killer/Ennead. Or you could use Star Changer/Resonance/etc/etc. Supply for Ectoplasmer and similar? (Sorry, I enjoy thinking outside the box like this). I was surprised this got realised given its anime effect, but seeing how they've converted it to the card game I think they've done a good job with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdom Xathers Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Okay, so they've managed to make this useable. Also, making you lose Life Points as opposed to damaging you is a decent way of preventing One Day/Prime Material abuse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas★Zero Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 [quote name='Expelsword - 黎明' timestamp='1348419282' post='6030350'] Obelisk, use another, Double Summon, Obelisk? [/quote] [img]http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/001/582/picard-facepalm.jpg?1240934151[/img] So basaclly you would use two of these to summon 2 Obelisk then kill yourself with 8000 points of damage since you didn't XYZ summon during that turn which is the main purpose for this card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Constellars Sheratan, Lv. 4 Constellar, CyDra in grave plus Kaust/Tenki in hand. Use this, summon Kaust. Kaust to 5, Sheratan to 4. Go Paladios and Machu Mech. Le boom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Shame it negates effects so Gagagas don't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut - Envoy of the End Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 [quote name='kingdom Neos' timestamp='1348422541' post='6030380'] [img]http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/001/582/picard-facepalm.jpg?1240934151[/img] So basaclly you would use two of these to summon 2 Obelisk then kill yourself with 8000 points of damage since you didn't XYZ summon during that turn which is the main purpose for this card. [/quote] Maybe he meant to use the two Obelisk to Xyz into Gustav Max? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 1. NS Barbaros #1 2. Use this 3. Double Summon/Ultimate Offering 4. Tribute 3 monsters summoned by FttF for Barbaros #2 5. Clear the field 6. Xyz for Rank 8 7. ??? 8. Profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 [quote name='kingdom Neos' timestamp='1348422541' post='6030380'] [img]http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/001/582/picard-facepalm.jpg?1240934151[/img] So basaclly you would use two of these to summon 2 Obelisk then kill yourself with 8000 points of damage since you didn't XYZ summon during that turn which is the main purpose for this card. [/quote] You kidding? You don't see a chance of winning that turn with 2 copies of an Egyptian God? One of the most powerful creatures known to Duel Monsters, one capable of outmatching a thousand armies? THE, Obelisk? THE Tormentor? You don't have to worry about the Life Point lost, you have to worry about the fact that you have to prepare to meet your make-*shot* xP OT: I find this card very interesting. One would expect that type of effect to either suck or be broken, but the card look fine. I can think of ways of using it, but I cannot think of ways to really abuse it. There's reviving targets for Icarus, Gemeni Spark, lolWhite Elephant's gift, or food for Tributes. Revive Sacred Phoenix, revive old Red Eyes B. Dragon, as Tribute for Darkness Dragon (not metal), or as a Fusion Material (which the Deck should be fun to make with Hieratics). Again, nothing abusive.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekko1990 Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 *just realized you don't have to use all 3 monsters to xyz summon* O_O.... Insanely good card. Going to love using it in my HAD deck. *Revive Hardened Armed Dragon, Dragon Ice and Hieratic Dragon of Tefnuit*, *level eat Tefnuit*, *Xyz for Adreus Keeper of Armagedon*, *blow up a card* and finally *tribute all 3 monters for Obelisk the Tormentor and smile* XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 [quote name='ekko1990' timestamp='1348431457' post='6030479'] *level eat Tefnuit*, *Xyz for Adreus Keeper of Armagedon*, [/quote] You cannot Special Summon other monsters the turn you activate this card, except by Xyz Summon. Just pointing that out. OT: its not abuseable. I mean, aside from Galaxy Queen's Light or Star Light, Star Bright, it requires a lot of thought to its useage. Or it can be used as a very lousy scape goat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdom Xathers Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 [quote name='ekko1990' timestamp='1348431457' post='6030479'] *level eat Tefnuit* [/quote] Except you can't SS other monsters except through Xyz Summon that turn. EDIT: Hanzo'd. -__-; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas★Zero Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 [quote name='Sleepy' timestamp='1348431253' post='6030477'] You kidding? You don't see a chance of winning that turn with 2 copies of an Egyptian God? One of the most powerful creatures known to Duel Monsters, one capable of outmatching a thousand armies? THE, Obelisk? THE Tormentor? You don't have to worry about the Life Point lost, you have to worry about the fact that you have to prepare to meet your make-*shot* [/quote] Try saying that when your opponent plays a T-roar ending your battle phase like a troll or uses Mirror Force exploting Obelisk weakness of the fact it can't protect itself from card effects that don't target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 [quote name='kingdom Neos' timestamp='1348438599' post='6030570'] Try saying that when your opponent plays a T-roar ending your battle phase like a troll or uses Mirror Force exploting Obelisk weakness of the fact it can't protect itself from card effects that don't target. [/quote] -I was mainly just quoting expressions and comments used in the anime. -Maybe I will. -Lol Threatening Roar. If someone uses something like that, they deserve to beat you from such a pro move, and Obelisks can still be used for Xyz to ditch the damage in that case. -In that post: BLS-EotB is bad because your Mirror Force will kill it. -If they Mirror Force it then, well.... sucks to be you. Obelisk is a legit pro casual move if you can either Xyz or still win that turn, or survive the pseudo-burn. It says you cannot Special Summon non-Xyzs that turn, but it doesn't mean you'll always play it with an empty field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSDelano Posted September 23, 2012 Report Share Posted September 23, 2012 Use this -> Normal Summon Photon satellite -> decide what Xyz you want to summon -> profit?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Apparently if you Summon 2 Obelisk your opponent is going to have a plethora of ways to get around them. /ok Photon Caesar? I could see that working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 > All their attacks become 0 > No one suggests Tannhauser Seems legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted September 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1348448443' post='6030638'] > All their attacks become 0 > No one suggests Tannhauser Seems legit. [/quote] Previously used Photon Satellite + random Level 4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 So I'm going to -2 myself to perform an Xyz Summon that is extremely situational and will more than likely leave me with a 0 ATK monster on the field that I can't do anything with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 [quote name='Thunder Spark' timestamp='1348448743' post='6030643'] So I'm going to -2 myself to perform an Xyz Summon that is extremely situational and will more than likely leave me with a 0 ATK monster on the field that I can't do anything with? [/quote] Where did this come from? Also, no one cares about this? [quote name='TheFinalFan' timestamp='1348423462' post='6030391'] 1. NS Barbaros #1 2. Use this 3. Double Summon/Ultimate Offering 4. Tribute 3 monsters summoned by FttF for Barbaros #2 5. Clear the field 6. Xyz for Rank 8 7. ??? 8. Profit. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 [quote name='Sleepy' timestamp='1348439358' post='6030577'] -Lol Threatening Roar. If someone uses something like that, they deserve to beat you from such a pro move, and Obelisks can still be used for Xyz to ditch the damage in that case. [/quote] Some decks use Roar at this time. Don't make posts without prior knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synchronized Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 The suggestion to use it with Tannhauser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 [quote name='Reborn Black' timestamp='1348449691' post='6030657'] Some decks use Roar at this time. Don't make posts without prior knowledge. [/quote] Fair enough, I haven't seen any. My post's point still stands. Suck it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 [quote name='Sleepy' timestamp='1348451013' post='6030664'] Fair enough, I haven't seen any. My post's point still stands. Suck it up. [/quote] I'm not validating what he said. Just pointing out that you're acting like a haughty b**** when you don't even know that things such as Thunder Family like Anti-OTK cards like that. If you don't have knowledge, don't mock someone else for the lack thereof or assumptions they make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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