Expelsword Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 [img]http://images.wikia.com/yugioh/images/6/66/TimeSealDB1-EN-C-UE.jpg[/img] Apparently, it's not broken because you can't activate it until after your opponent draws. and on the aspect of chainability, DME had this to say [quote][Time Seal is chainable,] so is Jar of Greed, Expel, both generate a +1 when chained to MST. One stops a draw, the other generates a draw.[/quote] Is this guy crazy, or can we actually unban this now that the game is faster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Not with Tsukuyomi around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 This card is either s*** or godly at any given time. And Jar of Greed and such are still s***. This shouldntcome back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 The way I see it, chaining Jar of Greed to MST is punishment for blind MST-ing. Chaining Time Seal to MST is punishment for like... what? Having a deck that needs its draw phase to survive? That's every single deck that isn't an OTK deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 [quote name='Trinity Gem - Dem' timestamp='1357539206' post='6113922']Not with Tsukuyomi around.[/quote]Drop off/Drastic Drop off do the same thing, except chainable. This is much worse than generating draws because it HALTS the opponent, instead of accelerating you. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 [quote name='Hatcher' timestamp='1357574997' post='6114140'] The way I see it, chaining Jar of Greed to MST is punishment for blind MST-ing. Chaining Time Seal to MST is punishment for like... what? Having a deck that needs its draw phase to survive? That's every single deck that isn't an OTK deck. [/quote]Or Dark Worlds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 [quote name='Missingno.' timestamp='1357575194' post='6114145'] Drop off/Drastic Drop off do the same thing, except chainable. This is much worse than generating draws because it HALTS the opponent, instead of accelerating you. No. [/quote] Drop Off/Drastic Drop Off have another issue though. They allow the draw to happen. This card doesn't give extra Graveyard, and stops the natural thinning of the deck. Adding chainability, I'd say Time Seal is pretty much superior. Though, Tsukuyomi + Mask of Darkness doesn't seem all that strong to me... I'm not saying this should absolutely be unbanned though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Should still be banned but definitely one of the cards with a stronger case for coming back, I think if I had to bring 5 cards back this would be one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hounds Of Anubis Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 [quote name='Josh Black' timestamp='1357539380' post='6113926'] This card is either s*** or godly at any given time. This shouldntcome back. [/quote] This pretty much summed up my opinion on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Eh,i doubt a lot of decks would use it,but they wouldnt use mass driver either,so let it rot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted January 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Mass Driver would destroy the game. Let's not bring it back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 [quote name='Expelsword - 黎明' timestamp='1357579912' post='6114252'] Mass Driver would destroy the game. [/quote] I dont see how. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted January 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Frogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 [quote name='Expelsword - 黎明' timestamp='1357584466' post='6114317'] Frogs. [/quote] They cant spam enough without subby to use it,and would prefer to just use lemuria/tributes/other stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Sabers Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 In all honesty, I'd rather have subby back rather than Mass Driver... I miss the good old days when I played junk frogs. 3 Sub was so fun. Sub + Dupe = lock. Dupe + Dupe = lock. And this was back when Ronintoadin wasn't a thing, if I remember right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 The problem is that it's a +0 that doesn't change the game state, it prevents it from progressing, which is not something that should be promoted. As we all know, Konami loves the "ultimate comeback". If you don't believe me, see Hope for Escape and Utopia Ray for examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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