Jord200 Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Number_88:_Gimmick_Puppet_of_Leo 3 [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Level"]Level[/url] 8 [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Monster_Card"]monsters[/url] Once per [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Turn"]turn[/url], if you have no cards in your [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Spell_%26_Trap_Card_Zone"]Spell & Trap Card Zone[/url]: You can [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Detach"]detach[/url] 1 [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Xyz_Material"]Xyz Material[/url] from this card, and if you do, place 1 [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Destiny_Counter"]Destiny Counter[/url] on this card. You cannot conduct your [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_Phase"]Battle Phase[/url] the turn you[url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Activate"]activate[/url] this effect. When 3 Destiny Counters are on this card, you win the [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Duel"]Duel[/url]. I'll give you 3 guesses what the next Shonen Jump Alpha Promo card is, and the first 2 don't count. disc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 GP of Destiny would sound better. J/S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 [quote name='Jord200' timestamp='1357590531' post='6114419'] I'll give you 3 guesses what the next Shonen Jump Alpha Promo card is, and the first 2 don't count. [/quote] Dunno, dunno.. erm, this? OT: Name kinda sucks tbh [quote name='Josh Black' timestamp='1357590579' post='6114420'] GP of Destiny would sound better. J/S [/quote] this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Awesome win condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Effect Veiler/Fiendish Chain/Counter Cleaner/destruction = GG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Yugioh needs to add this mechanic "Proliferate. [i](You choose any number of permanents and/or players with counters on them, then give each another counter of a kind already there.)"[/i] [color="#000000"]As is the opponent has to much time to find an answer to this. Still, cute card.[/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 [quote name='Flame Dragon' timestamp='1357594213' post='6114464'] Yugioh needs to add this mechanic "Proliferate. [i](You choose any number of permanents and/or players with counters on them, then give each another counter of a kind already there.)"[/i] [color=#000000]As is the opponent has to much time to find an answer to this. Still, cute card.[/color] [/quote] Yes, because making an alt win faster is a good idea ._. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 [quote name='Josh Black' timestamp='1357594337' post='6114467'] Yes, because making an alt win faster is a good idea ._. [/quote] Making it faster doesn't change the fact that its still not easy to summon this and its hard to protect him if your going for the alt win. I don't know much about Yugioh anymore but I don't think being able to proliferate counters will break this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 It's not [i]easy[/i] to summon, but it's not [i]that hard[/i] to summon, either. Especially if you're playing something like Rank 8 Hieratics. Then your opponent would be forced to negate its effect as soon as it hits the field, or you lose due to their 2 spell cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 [quote name='Zeppeli Gyro Supreme' timestamp='1357595503' post='6114486'] It's not [i]easy[/i] to summon, but it's not [i]that hard[/i] to summon, either. Especially if you're playing something like Rank 8 Hieratics. Then your opponent would be forced to negate its effect as soon as it hits the field, or you lose due to their 2 spell cards. [/quote] They have the time between you getting out the 3 level 8s to him getting the last counter to stop you from winning with this. And add on 2 more cards for something that already needs 3 just makes a bad Exodia because the opponent has so many way to interact with your plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Why "of Leo"? I understand (sort of) censoring Number 40 by calling it "of Strings" instead of Heaven's Strings, but what was wrong with "Destiny Leo"? Card is mediocre. 3200 ATK is nice, but except for Gimmick Puppets, there's no real reason to use this instead of Neo Galaxy-Eyes or even Giantrainer for the exact same effort (and the only real reason in Gimmick Puppets is because of Necro Doll's restriction). It has the same issue as Vennominaga, but none of Vennominaga's strengths. While both require 3 counters for the win, Leo pretty much requires you to leave it on the Field for 3 turns without any protection. Vennominaga, on the other hand, is a monster that's immune to all card effects and can easily have high ATK via Reptiles in the Grave. Vennominaga suffers on the basis that it's Summon method is ridiculous most of the time, and that it's more likely to win via dropping LP to 0 than by its Venom Counters. But the nerf was obvious, as it was too easy to abuse as the anime version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 [quote name='Josh Black' timestamp='1357594337' post='6114467'] Yes, because making an alt win faster is a good idea ._. [/quote] Consistent ways to get 3 Level 8s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1357599621' post='6114573'] Consistent ways to get 3 Level 8s? [/quote] Grapha Spam.dek Rank 8 Hieratics Potentially Gimmick Puppets Galaxy/Photon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 [quote name='Kevin the Bird of Sexytime' timestamp='1357600065' post='6114583'] Grapha Spam.dek [b]DWs are better off without Number 88[/b] Rank 8 Hieratics [b]Rank 8 Hieratics are terrible, though :<[/b] Potentially Gimmick Puppets Galaxy/Photon [b]They would make Neo-Eyes first[/b][/quote] ???????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Honestly, almost anything would rather go Neo Galaxy-Eyes than Destiny Leo. The only exception is Gimmick Puppets, and that, again, is because Necro Doll can't be used for a non-Gimmick Puppet Xyz. That's because Neo Galaxy can easily claim game if not Summoned carelessly. Even Giantrainer works well if you want to regain some of the advantage you spent Summoning it. Destiny Leo's major issue will always be that compared to all the other Rank 8s, it's lacking. Its effect only matters if you can keep it alive (while skipping Battle Phases) for three turns, and its ATK will only dissuade killing it by battle. Giant Killer, Hieratic Overlord, Heaven's Strings all have decent effects and or high ATK to make up for the effort in Summoning them, and they're only 2 Materials. Destiny Leo is a 3 Material, and when compared to Neo Galaxy or Giantrainer, you've got something very very subpar. It's like comparing Number 10 to other 3 Material Rank 4s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1357600521' post='6114598'] ???????????? [/quote] They use maybe 5 spots in the Extra, why can't they use this? They can still summon this. ~ They now have the choice between a negate all or a win condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 [quote name='Kevin the Bird of Sexytime' timestamp='1357601857' post='6114635'] They use maybe 5 spots in the Extra, why can't they use this? They can still summon this. ~ They now have the choice between a negate all or a win condition. [/quote] If we're talking about Galaxy/Photon Decks, think about that choice again. A negate-all with 4500 ATK and the potential to grab game right now. Or a win condition that takes at minimum 3 turns, is vulnerable to all forms of destruction AND disruption (Veiler will remove the Counters, flipping it facedown removes the counters, removing from the Field removes the counters), that skips your Battle Phase to use its effect, has 1300 ATK less than Neo Galaxy, and requires you to have no S/Ts on the Field to use its effect. So it's a choice between a win condition in the form of a 4500+ beater with the potential of multiple attacks, or a win condition that takes 3 more turns to actually win while assuming the opponent can't do a damn thing about it during those 3 turns. Tough choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpakha Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Photon galaxies can make this pretty easily. It's effect almost never gets pulled off though, way to slow. Still a nice card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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