Blake Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 4 Stars/FIRE/Spellcaster-Type - Effect/1500 ATK/1300 DEFWhen this card is Normal Summoned: Target 1 "Utopia" monster in your Graveyard; Special Summon that target. {{You can equip this card to a "Number C39: Utopia Ray V" you contol}}} Once per turn: {{You can detach 1 Xyz Material from the equipped monster; negate the effects of the equipped monster and destroy all monsters your opponent controls and inflict 1000 damage for each monster destroyed.}} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 >1000 per monster..____.ZeXal, your being too silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 Jeez that is a good effect. A raigeki that can potentially do 5k burn is INSANE! And Utopia Ray V is a chaos xyz, right? I suppose that balances it a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 We know what Victory comes from. :SThis is a little much, tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 >Salamander >Spellcaster Dafuq Yugioh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 its pretty bonkers but thank god its utopia support instead of something else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 OH, I GET IT NOW~"V-" is going to become its own thing, like how "ZW-" supports Utopia Ray....At least this lets you make Ray V easier xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Crouton Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 Is it bad that I thought this topic was about a new VtoZ monster? :( This looks like Cyber End Dragon. Wait... >"V" = "Victory" > Cyber End Dragon can OTK > This looks like Cyber End Dragon A-HA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 But Machis, this one cranks it up to 11 by adding a fourth head! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommanderVolt Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 >Salamander >Spellcaster Dafuq Yugioh. Salamander as in the Summon Spirit! OT: What...that cant be it's real effect can it..? Seems so crazy and abusive.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Void Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 Between this, Ray V's effect, and Hope Buster...some weird Utopia Burn can easily be a thing. ...This keeps making me think of V-Create and by extension: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 So instead of the "Xyz Change - ZeXal!" we'll probably have something along the lines of "Xyz Change - V!", A.K.A. Yuma's Super Saiyan 2 transformation. Jeez, they still don't even fully understand what the ZeXal one is about, if at all, and now they are jumping out of it? OT: The card complements Yuma's deckstyle's goal pretty well: To keep losing badly while trying to play Number 39, and just OTK with BS effects when he is about to die. It's meant to revive the regular Utopia to Chaos Xyz, I can already see that "twist" in the anime.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 Considering you can summon Ray V without actually using Utopia, this is pretty crazy. At least it's not a ZW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 I might be the only one who can't wait to play against Utopia.dek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 ...This keeps making me think of V-Create and by extension: Victini came to my mind as well. (So did the ACE SPEC card Victory Piece) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 So its a not another Utopia upgrade, thats a relief. I would like it better if we get a Chaos Number for Revise or Black Mist before we get ANOTHER Utopia upgrade..... OT- Sheesh, that effect is nuts..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreelancerRaiko Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 Is Ray Victory really just Ray V or is it supposed to be an entirely different card? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 Hope V fits multiple things: -[b]V[/b]ictory, because nuts. -Rank 5, because 5 is [b]V[/b] in roman numbers. -[b]V[/b]arian, because that's where the upgrade comes from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 Yeah, now that we sort of know that the name is actually Varian instead of Barian, the V makes more sense plus the puns involved. Which yeah, makes me think V- is going to be like the ZWs. This card looks fun, actually. It's searchable at 1500 ATK (until Sangan gets banned), revives either Utopia, C39, or C39-V when Normal Summoned. It can be equipped to C39-V, and then blow up all your opponent's monsters and burn a potentially massive amount. Plus, C39-V doesn't care if its effects get negated, because it can use its effect before using this effect if your opponent has more than one monster, dealing damage for that monster's ATK (which is probably more than 1000). Of course, for that to work, you'd need 2 Overlay Units, but if you use this to revive Utopia, then use it for C39, then use Varian's Force for C39-V, it'll have 2 Overlays for that combo. And then C39-V can direct attack. So much damage just for Normal Summoning this while you have a Utopia in the Grave... And dont forget that Utopia, C39, and C39-V have support in the ZWs and also with that Utopia rocket launcher Spell card. Huh, Utopia seems to suddenly be capable of supreme offensive power... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 Huh, Utopia seems to suddenly be capable of supreme offensive power...That's actually a rather scary thought to entertain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 17, 2013 Report Share Posted February 17, 2013 That's actually a rather scary thought to entertain. Agreed. Let's look at the "power creep" of Utopia. When first made, it was a balance of offense (2500 generic Rank 4) with a defensive effect to negate attacks, and a huge drawback (it self-destructs if it tries to defend too much). C39 shifted towards offense, but it required you to be losing badly (1000 LP to use effect), but it was capable of inflicting up to 4000 damage out of nowhere. The drawback was, of course, the fact you had to be losing, and you'd need either a self-destructive or defensive approach to trigger this at will. The first ZWs required C39 to use, and both were offense-based. Unicorn Spear boosted by a very nice 1900 and negated effects during Battle, letting it swing over tricky beaters, and Phoenix Bow inflicted burn damage when you killed something. The next ZWs let you use any Utopia, and gave defensive abilities that made its offense even better (Tornado Bringer and Lightning Blade protect your cards/equipped monster and can die in place of other cards). Ultimate Shield revived banished Xyz but only boosted DEF. Hope Launcher was an offensive-burn card that can kill stronger monsters that Utopia normally can't handle. Then C39-V was created, and that alone is a beast. Using Varian Force/Limited Varian Force on a Utopia brings out a 2600 that can destroy monsters and burn just like Volcasaurus, but without the downside of costing its attack. Of course, to use this, you must have used Utopia as the Material. And now this, which pretty much says "you know what'd be fun? Making Utopia and C39-V absurdly spammable and inflict massive burn damage for next to nothing as a cost. For instant nuke, burn, and direct attack, have me and Varian's Force in hand". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreelancerRaiko Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 Agreed. Let's look at the "power creep" of Utopia. When first made, it was a balance of offense (2500 generic Rank 4) with a defensive effect to negate attacks, and a huge drawback (it self-destructs if it tries to defend too much). C39 shifted towards offense, but it required you to be losing badly (1000 LP to use effect), but it was capable of inflicting up to 4000 damage out of nowhere. The drawback was, of course, the fact you had to be losing, and you'd need either a self-destructive or defensive approach to trigger this at will. The first ZWs required C39 to use, and both were offense-based. Unicorn Spear boosted by a very nice 1900 and negated effects during Battle, letting it swing over tricky beaters, and Phoenix Bow inflicted burn damage when you killed something. The next ZWs let you use any Utopia, and gave defensive abilities that made its offense even better (Tornado Bringer and Lightning Blade protect your cards/equipped monster and can die in place of other cards). Ultimate Shield revived banished Xyz but only boosted DEF. Hope Launcher was an offensive-burn card that can kill stronger monsters that Utopia normally can't handle. Then C39-V was created, and that alone is a beast. Using Varian Force/Limited Varian Force on a Utopia brings out a 2600 that can destroy monsters and burn just like Volcasaurus, but without the downside of costing its attack. Of course, to use this, you must have used Utopia as the Material. And now this, which pretty much says "you know what'd be fun? Making Utopia and C39-V absurdly spammable and inflict massive burn damage for next to nothing as a cost. For instant nuke, burn, and direct attack, have me and Varian's Force in hand". Very well thought out and put my friend. Of course Salamander only works if you have a barian force in hand for the nuke, but yes our little guy seems to be growing up so fast. Perhaps they were making up for the self-destructive effect of the original 39? After all, he and leviath dragon were the first to be created, along with Tiras, and back then they were focusing on making xyz have drawbacks once all their materials were used up. But then they sort of stopped that suddenly, so it's nice to see him get such awesome boosts. He's like the Dark Magician or the Neos of the new world now. Ok on his own but uber powerful when you build off of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 I really want to build a Utopia Deck that'll run this. I'm just unsure what'll work best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birkeland Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 I can't see this working with ZWs, but it's amazing on its own. The raigeki-burn comes out of nowhere, and helps push for game. I can't-- Wait, a fire-based spellcaster named Salamander? Where have I heard of that before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 18, 2013 Report Share Posted February 18, 2013 I wouldn't recommend using with ZWs, although you COULD do it. It's better as a stand-alone support card, but it revives any Utopia when NSed, so ZWs don't conflict with it. And it can equip to C39-V, whereas the good ZWs equip to any Utopia. This needs you to run Varian's Force as a support/key card, but the ZWs need themselves. It's a toss-up as to whether you run both or focus on one. This could be a tech in ZW decks, but its full potential requires Varian's Force. Hmm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.