The Warden Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Because it apparantly lets Linde go off anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 ...Drowning is now a valid thing to Sensor?As crazy as this sounds, that was part of this card's concept-ANYWAY-The card itself is pretty crazy, considering the plays it leads into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Yeah, Linde still works because the effects are only negated on the Field, same way Sangan works with Tour Guide. It seems to be one of Mermail's key cards in that respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 I love seeing people flip this on my [i]End Phase[/i]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Master Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 I love seeing people flip this on my End Phase. It's your opponent's next End Phase. I fail to see the dispute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 [quote name="Justice Master" post="6148184" timestamp="1361465522"]It's your opponent's next End Phase. I fail to see the dispute.[/quote] If you flip Sphere on your opponent's (In this case, my) End Phase, then Sphere won't trigger until my next turn, because it's already my End Phase. Meaning I get a whole turn to draw an out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 nobody on DN ever waits, just rushes to the end phase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Trigger this at the end of the BP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 nobody on DN ever waits, just rushes to the end phaseTiming issues are everything, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 I've been extremely clear before. "OK. After that," *Opponent immediately clicks EP* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 I've won more than a few games because I actually waited for this to use MST on, instead of killing it while it was FD. This is a good example of why Blind MST is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 I've won more than a few games because I actually waited for this to use MST on, instead of killing it while it was FD. This is a good example of why Blind MST is bad. It also causes the problem where you don't ever use MST and end up repeatedly falling into Torrential Tributes, but if you don't hold onto it then you end up getting destroyed by this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 It also causes the problem where you don't ever use MST and end up repeatedly falling into Torrential Tributes, but if you don't hold onto it then you end up getting destroyed by this. When you're opponent has more than 1 backrow out it's just a plain gamble though. If you don't know their one backrow you generally wait to see if it's this and hit it when they activate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 This wouldn't be half as bad if it didn't interact with Linde so well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 When you're opponent has more than 1 backrow out it's just a plain gamble though. If you don't know their one backrow you generally wait to see if it's this and hit it when they activate it. They can also activate it on their own turn, not that it's optimal, but a 2400 beatstick is still nothing to laugh at. So if you don't set MST, which would allow them to MP2 chain this freely, they can still decide to activate it on their own turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 They can also activate it on their own turn, not that it's optimal, but a 2400 beatstick is still nothing to laugh at. So if you don't set MST, which would allow them to MP2 chain this freely, they can still decide to activate it on their own turn. It's mind games. It's everywhere. Do you risk them doing it M2 after you set MST? Or do you risk not being able to do anything to it on their turn? And they have the exact same thing to worry about. It's the same kind of game that things like Veiler and Battle Fader make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 It's mind games. It's everywhere. Do you risk them doing it M2 after you set MST? Or do you risk not being able to do anything to it on their turn? And they have the exact same thing to worry about. It's the same kind of game that things like Veiler and Battle Fader make. Not really, because EVERYONE anticipates a Veiler drop on a TGU, or something along those lines. And people don't expect Fader unless they're playing a Deck that specifically abuses it. Surprise =/= Mind game, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted February 22, 2013 Report Share Posted February 22, 2013 Not really, because EVERYONE anticipates a Veiler drop on a TGU, or something along those lines. And people don't expect Fader unless they're playing a Deck that specifically abuses it. Surprise =/= Mind game, really. You have TGU in hand. Your opponent may or may not have Veiler in hand. TGU isn't your only play possible. Do you summon TGU and risk it? Or do you take another play? Mind games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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