Gangansan

[cr47t]

A more balanced version of Sangan, in my opinion.

 

 

 

It would be limited, like Sangan was before the March `13 list. While Sangan can add cards like Slifer, Ra, exodia pieces, and other super-powerful card with 1500 or less ATK, I noticed that most of those are around Level 5 or higher, so I made it so you could only add regular cards.

 

Tell me if it needs improvements.

[Sander]

A more balanced version of Sangan, in my opinion.

 

It would be limited, like Sangan was before the March `13 list. While Sangan can add cards like Slifer, Ra, exodia pieces, and other super-powerful card with 1500 or less ATK, I noticed that most of those are around Level 5 or higher, so I made it so you could only add regular cards.

 

Tell me if it needs improvements.

 

Slifers and Ra's ATK is undefined, aka "?", so you can't add them with Sangans effect in the first place. All you managed to do was limit yourself from adding cards like Yubel and shit, and still allow it to grab monsters that were more problematic with Sangan in the first place. tl;dr: You managed nothing.

[cr47t]

Slifers and Ra's ATK is undefined, aka "?", so you can't add them with Sangans effect in the first place. All you managed to do was limit yourself from adding cards like Yubel and shit, and still allow it to grab monsters that were more problematic with Sangan in the first place. tl;dr: You managed nothing.

 

@bold: Well ? means 0 when the eff is not in use, is that correct?

 

@underlined: Ik that it`s not too good, but the part you said that I underlined was mean. If you think a card is not good, try posting some ways it could be better, instead of saying things like "you managed nothing".

 

@italic: The part near the end that prevents you from adding exodia pieces. (read the WHOLE card text...)

[Aix]

@bold: Well ? means 0 when the eff is not in use, is that correct?

@italic: The part near the end that prevents you from adding exodia pieces. (read the WHOLE card text...)

There are way more troublesome things Sangan could do than search Exodia. In fact, most Exodia Decks didn't even use Sangan.

 

Undefined pretty much means that in the deck, it has over 9000 ATK. You somehow think searching Slifer or Ra is a problem?

 

@underlined: Ik that it`s not too good, but the part you said that I underlined was mean. If you think a card is not good, try posting some ways it could be better, instead of saying things like "you managed nothing".

Sangan is just bad.

 

Truth is:

You managed nothing.

[cr47t]

There are way more troublesome things Sangan could do than search Exodia. In fact, most Exodia Decks didn't even use Sangan.
 
Undefined pretty much means that in the deck, it has over 9000 ATK. You somehow think searching Slifer or Ra is a problem?
 
Sangan is just bad. The only way to solve the problem is to make it archetype specific in an archetype that isn't OPed or make it mistime as well as put in some other restrictions, that's why Zanda doesn't just post a solution.
 
Truth is:

 
@italic: How am I supposed to know what they are?
 
@bold: ...I`m not an expert at Yugioh, do you expect me to be one?
 
@underlined: What, just because he`s banned?
 
Truth is:

Sangan was a great card and I was trying to remake it in a way Konami would accept. The reason I didn`t make it specific, was it was based on Sangan in general. The ATK limit on Sangan isn`t OP`d, and it was the best.

Banned dosen`t mean bad.

[AGATHODAIMON BANGTAIL COW]

Sangan's latest escapade was where it searched Tour Guide or Rescue Rabbit with its effect, not Exodia pieces, just saying. And a Sangan SSed by Tour Guide couldn't use its effect as you normally Xyz Summoned with it, and detaching Sangan doesn't send it from the field to the Graveyard (it did for a little while, but then Konami said to stop that).

 

As for ? ATK monsters, they aren't at 0 when not defined. They simply are not defined with a number. Just a question mark.

 

 

 

 

 

@italic: How am I supposed to know what they are? Use Dueling Network and look up all monsters with 1500 or less ATK.
 
@bold: ...I`m not an expert at Yugioh, do you expect me to be one? It really helps if you are one.
 
@underlined: What, just because he`s banned? Because he gets you a bunch of powerful monsters such as Tour Guide, Rabbit, etc.

[Sander]

 @underlined: What, just because he`s banned?

 

Sangan was a card that had it coming for a long time, so what he meant as "bad" was bad for the game.

 

Sangan was a great card and I was trying to remake it in a way Konami would accept. The reason I didn`t make it specific, was it was based on Sangan in general. The ATK limit on Sangan isn`t OP`d, and it was the best.

Banned dosen`t mean bad.

 

Sangan was broken, and don't even try to deny it. What's so "great" about being broken? And nobody cares / cared about Sangans ATK limit. That wasn't what made it broken. What made it broken was it that it allowed you to search your deck for doing absolutely nothing.

 

So I still stand by my original post. You managed nothing because all those targets that a player would add with Sangan can still be added with Gansan. All you essentially did was add a Level restriction, an Exodia ban and effect negation when SS'd (which is iffy, as I don't know what happens when you tutor this out with Tour Guide) onto Sangan and called it a new card.

[cr47t]

Sangan was a card that had it coming for a long time, so what he meant as "bad" was bad for the game.
 
 
Sangan was broken, and don't even try to deny it. What's so "great" about being broken? And nobody cares / cared about Sangans ATK limit. That wasn't what made it broken. What made it broken was it that it allowed you to search your deck for doing absolutely nothing.
 
So I still stand by my original post. You managed nothing because all those targets that a player would add with Sangan can still be added with Gansan. All you essentially did was add a Level restriction, an Exodia ban and effect negation when SS'd (which is iffy, as I don't know what happens when you tutor this out with Tour Guide) onto Sangan and called it a new card.

 

I`m not calling it a new card, i`m calling it a remake. And cone to think of it, a fail one.

[Aix]

You made it even worse in the fact that it can be sent from anywhere. And it doesn't matter if its effects are negated cuz conditions like that are refreshed when he hits the grave again, so he can still search.

[GrimJr1393]

I like this, and if it were a real remake I would use it... And it wouldn't be banned like Sangan(I think)

[cr47t]

You made it even worse in the fact that it can be sent from anywhere. And it doesn't matter if its effects are negated cuz conditions like that are refreshed when he hits the grave again, so he can still search.

 
Oops, that was an error in the card text. Fixing.

[宇佐見 蓮子@C94]

I'm siding with Axi and Zanda on this. What you basically did is, make Sangan even more broken my making it so that the effect activates upon being sent to the graveyard, much like Dandylion. Also, the level restriction doesn't do anything as most of the cards Sangan adds is level 4 or lower. (Tour Guide, Rescue Rabbit, etc.) I've made a lot of decks utilizing Sangan and never once have I added anything above level 4. (Safe for Yubel)

[cr47t]

You made it even worse in the fact that it can be sent from anywhere. And it doesn't matter if its effects are negated cuz conditions like that are refreshed when he hits the grave again, so he can still search.

 

Oops, that was an error in the card text. Fixing.