Toffee. Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 But it doesn't really synergize with Treeborn, which I see as the foundation for most Monarchs lately :sActually, since Azuh mentioned Orichalcos, you could be cool and run Cyber Dragons.2600 beaters out of nowhere =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Like holy...so Monarch for Tier 0 post LTGY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Like holy...so Monarch for Tier 0 post LTGY? nowhere close they just gained a new deck style that's all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 This is just the first of many support me thinks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Granmarg requires the Tribute of a Tribute Summoned monster. Niceeeeeeeee now it sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sora1499 Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Sooooooo, they making a big monarch for each little monarch? I'd love to see Big Caius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Like holy...so Monarch for Tier 0 post LTGY? Let's not jump the gun here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNo.101 S.H. Death Knight Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Granmarg requires the Tribute of a Tribute Summoned monster. Niceeeeeeeee now it sucks if that gonna be the case, sound like they would need a bit more of extra normal Summon case. we have Double Summon and Ultimate Offering but... in overall i do like where they going with this. i know they want to promote Tributes but it's hard to get Tribute Summons to keep up the speed of the current format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Granmarg requires the Tribute of a Tribute Summoned monster. Niceeeeeeeee now it sucks Now that's just a kick in the proverbial groin. in overall i do like where they going with this. i know they want to promote Tributes but it's hard to get Tribute Summons to keep up the speed of the current format. I like how they want to promote tributes (especially with BP02), but I agree that the format needs to slow down in order for these guys to keep up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Oh, it needs a monster that was Tribute Summoned? Interesting...unfortunate, but not awful. Monarchs provide that anyway, and Unearthing is plenty for regular Monarchs or variants, anyway. I was wondering why it had such a mediocre extra effect for using 2 EARTH Tributes (although Dandy tokens don't mind much). Aha! Precious Cards from Beyond! USE IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNo.101 S.H. Death Knight Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Oh, it needs a monster that was Tribute Summoned? Interesting...unfortunate, but not awful. Monarchs provide that anyway, and Unearthing is plenty for regular Monarchs or variants, anyway. I was wondering why it had such a mediocre extra effect for using 2 EARTH Tributes (although Dandy tokens don't mind much). Aha! Precious Cards from Beyond! USE IT! correction, tributing an EARTH monster(s) will set off the draw effect, doesn't have to be 2 according to wikia. Like tributing its former self would set off both effects for +2 as for example. the idea seem nice, though the monarch deck doesn't rly run Granmargs :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 correction, tributing an EARTH monster(s) will set off the draw effect, doesn't have to be 2 according to wikia. Like tributing its former self would set off both effects for +2 as for example. the idea seem nice, though the monarch deck doesn't rly run Granmargs :S Makes more sense. You Tribute something for Granmarg, hit a Set card, search this with Unearthing. Next turn, Tribute Granmarg, hit 2 cards and draw 1. I like how Unearthing is flexible enough to clearly support Monarchs, but not be limited to only searching them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 I'm thinking that the 4 cards after Granmarg are other big Monarchs. I don't know the source that my friend got these from, but until there is confirmation, I'd take the following with a grain of salt: Raiza The Calm Wind Monarch WIND/Winged Beast/Level 8/2800 ATK/1000 DEF You can Tribute Summon this card with 1 Tribute if that Tribute is a Tribute Summoned monster. When this card is Tribute Summoned: Target up to 2 Cards on the field; Return those targets to the deck. If this card is Tribute Summoned using 2 WIND monsters, apply the following effect: • Return 1 card on the field to the hand. Mobius The Frozen Water Monarch WATER/Aqua/Level 8/2800 ATK/1000 DEF You can Tribute Summon this card with 1 Tribute if that Tribute is a Tribute Summoned monster. When this card is Tribute Summoned: Target Up to 3 Spell/Trap Cards on the field; destroy those targets. If this card is Tribute Summoned using 2 WATER monsters, apply the following effect: • Gain 1000 Lifepoints Thestalos The Blazing Fire Monarch FIRE/Pyro/Level 8/2800 ATK/1000 DEF You can Tribute Summon this card with 1 Tribute if that Tribute is a Tribute Summoned monster. When this card is Tribute Summoned: Target up to 2 cards in your opponents hand and send them to the graveyard. If this card is Tribute Summoned using 2 FIRE monsters, apply the following effect: • Your Opponent takes 1000 damage Caius The Cruel Dark Monarch DARK/Fiend/Level 8/2800 ATK/1000 DEF You can Tribute Summon this card with 1 Tribute if that Tribute is a Tribute Summoned monster. When this card is Tribute Summoned: Target up to 2 Cards on the field; banish those targets. If this card is Tribute Summoned using 2 DARK monsters, apply the following effect: • Target 1 banished monster in either players banish zone and special summon it in face up defense position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Post of speculationYou forgot Zaborg. It's original 6, remember guys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 You forgot Zaborg. It's original 6, remember guys? That is a good point, however the list that my friend had (from unknown source) only had those 4, Granmarg and the spell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 I only just realized that he had a built in Advanced Force Effect. There goes stupid tech ideas...Man... Still, Hamon Monarchs seems pretty hilarious, even if stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 I updated the OP because a lot of people are getting confused about the fact that OP's effect text is out of date and incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Block Golem shenanigans for easier Granmarg plays?Also the fact it requires you to Tribute a Tribute Summoned monster, is just for concept/theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted June 17, 2013 Report Share Posted June 17, 2013 Probably ninja'd but w/e. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 I need to change my pants. This is just too good. I WILL run this. Ah, you can make it so your opponent cannot chain Starlight Road to this, if you tribute Tongue Twister. Shit... This might be a whole new deck. But it doesn't really synergize with Treeborn, which I see as the foundation for most Monarchs lately :s Who needs Treeborn when you can use Ivory and Ebony Dragons, or D.D. Survivor and Space Core? We still need a Monster Reborn-like monarch, and a Brain Control-like monarch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superdoopertrooper Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 This card is now terrible. It was already mediocre when it needed just 1 Tribute of any kind, but now that we know the Tribute has to be another Tribute Summoned monster, it's complete garbage. Granmarg was always the worst monarch, his effect should have been destroying 2 set cards like this guy does all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted June 18, 2013 Report Share Posted June 18, 2013 But it doesn't really synergize with Treeborn, which I see as the foundation for most Monarchs lately :s Which is arguably its most balancing factor tbh :/ the Frog Tribute engine is already helluva consistent, we don't need the monarch half being just as consistent. This card is now terrible. It was already mediocre when it needed just 1 Tribute of any kind, but now that we know the Tribute has to be another Tribute Summoned monster, it's complete garbage. Granmarg was always the worst monarch, his effect should have been destroying 2 set cards like this guy does all along. Granmarg was only the worst because Zaborg and Caius did it better. Besides, the release of this means there will probably be 5 more "super" monarchs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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