White Void Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Trouble Diver DARK/Warrior/4/1000/1000/Effect: If your opponent controls a monster, and all the monsters (if any) you control are Level 4, you can Special Summon this card (from your hand). You can only Special Summon "Trouble Diver" once per turn this way. This card cannot be used as an Xyz Material for an Xyz Summon, except for the Xyz Summon of a Warrior-Type monster. In Duelist Pack: Yuma 2. Ended up getting Cydra treatment and a restriction on what it can be used for. Still decent but can't really do anything with that DARK attribute at the moment (as far as Xyz goes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 MAYBE in Thunder Family, but the last part hurts it pretty badly. Could be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas★Zero Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 MAYBE in Thunder Family, but the last part hurts it pretty badly. Could be better. Still for warrior Xyz it has a various selection from Utopia, Excalibur, Blade Armour, Gagaga Cowboy and a lot of others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Sage Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Hey, it's a RotA target. Also, why didn't you just post the anime pic and be done with it? Would have saved some editing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 Hey, it can make Utopia. Which is why the last restriction is there, since Utopia is so brooken*sarcasm*. But seriously, decks like Heroics, the godawful Butterspy, and Utopia-based decks appreciate the support. Now, if someone make the thread for Shark's more interesting cards... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeathSDelano Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 works nice with Photon thrasher and HC Extra sword, could see myself running this in a Heroic build makes exceed summoning kusanagi easy, or just use it as an easy way to get a 3200 ATK blade armor ninja with extra sword. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Shin~ Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 It can add to Noble Knights OTK consistency, and then there is Arthur, Zubaba, Utopia and Cowboy. Also, it can be used for synchro, unlike some other LV4 spam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 and all the monsters (if any) you control are Level 4-So.... Controlling an Xyz won't let you Summon it. Nice to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 So.... Controlling an Xyz won't let you Summon it. Nice to know. It's a lovely, subtle balancing factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 I'd run it in Noble Knights for moar Chaosness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 It's a lovely, subtle balancing factor.Yes, yes it is.I mean, at the same time it puts it on par with other oddities like Magne Doll, which require you to play the deck in method X, in order to get reward Y.Still, glad it isn't a Nomi or anything silly like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 God dammit HEROs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 When I saw this thing in the anime I went "why did they make this? We have Kagetokage", and I'm still wondering that. It's got potential, but I hate how many redundant effects we're getting from ZeXal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 kagetokage doesnt have warrior support? or a cydra-like effect, or the ability to be summoned even if you cant normal summon that turn. or hell even the fact that this can go for synchros, and isnt in any way restricted in that regard. honestly besides the level 4 bit they arent really that similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 The anime Kagetokage doesn't have the Synchro clause, and anime Trouble Diver is a generic Kizan. And the way it was used effectively made it another Kagetokage. Not to mention Blue Mountain Butterspy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 The anime Kagetokage doesn't have the Synchro clause, and anime Trouble Diver is a generic Kizan. And the way it was used effectively made it another Kagetokage. Not to mention Blue Mountain Butterspy... Except Trouble Diver has different conditions so it isn't the same :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 What did I just say? Anyway, this thing has the advantage of being a Limit Reverse target, but so is Heroic Challenger Extra Sword, so yeah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 Screw Xyz plays, I'm going use this for Synchro Summons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 What did I just say? Anyway, this thing has the advantage of being a Limit Reverse target, but so is Heroic Challenger Extra Sword, so yeah... You said: The anime Kagetokage doesn't have the Synchro clause, and anime Trouble Diver is a generic Kizan. And the way it was used effectively made it another Kagetokage. Not to mention Blue Mountain Butterspy... None of that really says anything other than "Well it was used as another Kagetokage..." and about how the anime cards worked. Can we discuss this card? Because it's different from kagetokage. Both in ways of restrictions and support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 Miror, I started off by saying my opinion about the card, which was that it's a redundant effect given how many cards accomplish the exat same thing. Then you decided to hound me for that opinion. Or did you miss the first post I made? Anyway, the big problem with this thing is it can only summon Warrior Xyz, which right now are few and far between. Synchros are a better bet, especially since Level 8s are most common, but I feel there are Better ways to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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