Rank-Up-Magic Astral Force [ANIME]

[vla1ne]

Black Mist into Genome Heriter. That is all.

 

EDIT. OR Volcasaurus into Big Eye

shortly after that second play, I expect to see people being beaten to death over a children's card game.

[Jord200]

Galaxy Queen into Nadeshiko

Photon Streak Bouncer into Any Rank 8

Any Rank 8 into Gustaph Max

Any Rank 2 into Ophion

In the OCG only, any Rank 2 into Shock Ruler

 

 

Plus, this makes stuff like Abyss Splash, Genome Heriter, Crystal Zero, Black Ray Lancer, and so many others much easier to summon. This thing is nuts.

[Maeriberii Haan]

Why summon Gustaph when you can summon Super Dimensional Galaxy Destroyer? Also' rank 2/3s can now toolbox things like Evolzars/Ophion/Ruler/Pleiades/Volca too easily.

[Therrion]

I'd imagine Transmodify style in the sense of only 1 Rank higher (though I doubt this), and making it same Type/Attribute (moreso leaning towards, but again, NO---). Would still be crazy good to get Pledias, as well as Gimmicks getting HeartEarth~

[Maeriberii Haan]

It'll keep the 2 rank higher, that's for sure. It's what make this RUM special. Knowing Konmai, they'll just slap some random restrictions that might make the card borderline unplayable.

[Canadian]

They have to put restriction on it.

 

If they don't then the format this card is released in will be a self-touching shit show.

[Maeriberii Haan]

Aren't the OCG banlist kinda implied that LoTV will be a crapstorm of nutty cards?

[evilfusion]

Again, the reason this card is beyond broken is because any Xyz can be Ranked-Up into virtually any Xyz. The other Rank-Ups all had very specific requirements.

 

Barian's Force: Types must match. Must be a CXyz or Number C. (Furthermore, most CXyz and Rank-Up Number Cs want their previous form as a Material for their effects. Bonus effect: Steal 1 Overlay Unit.

 

Limited Barian's Force: No Type restriction. Must use a Rank 4. Can only Summon Number Cs. Therefore, you're limited to the Rank 5 Number Cs, all of which were designed to be used with Rank-Up Magic (C106, C105, C39- V, C39 - Victory, C104)

 

Numeron Force: Types must match. Must be a Number C. Bonus effect: Negate all other face-up cards.

 

Because most of the Rank-Up Number Cs are Rank 5s, Limited Barian's Force is the best one, because it doesn't have the Type restriction, letting you use it on any Rank 4 for any Rank 5 Number C, and some of them actually don't need their previous form to be decent. C104 actually prefers if you don't use Numeron Force, because it destroys an S/T upon Summon (Numeron Force makes it miss the timing), and has 3000 ATK. C105 inflicts half ATK as damage when it destroys monsters in battle and has a solid 2800 ATK. C39 - Victory has an Ancient Gear clause and 2800 ATK. C106 only needs a Number as Material to get its effect, so using Limited Force is the most practical way of Summoning it.

 

This, however, lets you evolve any Xyz into any other Xyz. It needs to be restricted to Number Cs or CXyz to not be broken, but continuing this trend of obsessing over CXyz/Number Cs will make it impractical due to how the Rank-Up gimmick wants you to use the previous form, and they're only 1 Rank higher.

 

The problem with evolving to Number C or CXyz with this is that it would then disregard the flavor of Astral Force. Not positive, but it sounded like "Chaos" Xyz/Numbers are considered to be abominable monsters in the Astral World. Chaos power seems to be a very bad thing. When Eliphas used Astral Force, he noticeably referred to the Summon as "Rank-Up Xyz Change" rather than "Chaos Xyz Change".

 

So...I have no idea what they'll do with this, if anything.

[Lonk]

I predict that either:

 

1. It gets released in LOTV with the restriction to only Rank-Up Xyz Monsters into “New Orders” monsters. Because of the small space LOTV has for Xyz Monsters, I think it is unlikely.

 

2. Konami makes another Number Hunters/Zexal Collectors Pack with this, the New Orders and the potential Shining Xyzs in it. This can enable it to be used on “New Orders” and “Shining Xyz” monsters only as a nerf. This scenario is more likely than the first option, but it is implying that the Astral mooks use RUM-AF to Rank-Up their Xyz Monsters into Shining Xyzs. 

 

1.  You do know that Yuma is going to use Astral Force to Double Rank-Up Utopia into Rainbow King Utopia (or whatever it's called), so it can't have that restriction because the anime says so.

 

2.  I can see this happening... maybe.  I really liked the Numbers Hunters set and wished that Konami did something like that again.

[Northern Sage]

You know, why am I not surprised his Rank-Up card is re-usable?
I mean, it's not like he was going to play anything else, really :/
As for the card itself, it's pretty ridiculous, given the fact that any Xyz you control will just become anything else. Though, that was probably on purpose, when you take into consideration Xyz monsters basically originated from the Astral World in the first place(or at least, they imply it)

Funny story is, he did actually play another.

They might limit it to only NO monsters, or just OPT at least, but not unnerfed please.

[evilfusion]

Xyz are said to be from another dimension, but only Numbers are explicitly from the Astral World, not all Xyz.

[Sunshine Jesse]

Jesus, this is good.

 

I can forsee some sort of cost coming from this as a nerf, like a tribute/discard cost.

 

Although given how versatile this is, a Type limitation wouldn't really kill it, imo.

[Des ＨＥＲＯ]

1.  You do know that Yuma is going to use Astral Force to Double Rank-Up Utopia into Rainbow King Utopia (or whatever it's called), so it can't have that restriction because the anime says so.

 

Oh yeah, Utopia Ray Neo. I sort of missed that from episode 123 Preview.

 

Call me crazy, but maybes there's a slight chance that Konami might want to further expand the New Orders by having Utopia Ray Neo as a member. The title didn't specify that Utopia Ray Neo was a Chaos Number or not. Though, it would be ironically amusing if Yuma creates a Chaos Number with Astral Force. 

 

2.  I can see this happening... maybe.  I really liked the Numbers Hunters set and wished that Konami did something like that again.

 

I can honestly see another Number Hunters set happening in a year or so like the last one took. There are quite a lot of Numbers needing to be printed that won't be printed in Booster Packs and the possibility of several Shining Xyzs adds to the list. A set with Shining Xyzs in it also could fit in perfectly with the Mangas Numbers that would also be printed in it. Utopia ONE says it all-*shot*. 

 

Seeing as LOTV doesn't have enough space for the New Orders, Numbers Hunter 2 or saving Numbers 2-4 for later is probably the best shot that the New Orders have for being printed with Astral Force. Not that they are looking popular anyway.

[D.A._Sakuyamon]

How about a "Pay half your life points" & "7 Destroy all other monsters your control" as a cost?

[Toffee.]

So... Who's ready for shenanigans when this card hits DMG/DevPro?

[D.A._Sakuyamon]

So most rank 1s cost 3 materials right? Use this to make a Rank 3 then use another for a Laggia/Dolkka. Bam, now you either have a Double Judgement or a 5x monster eff negger.

[Toffee.]

Corn removes a monster.
Rank up into Volca.
Destroy another monster + burn.
Overlay Volca into Thunder Charger.
Rank-Up into Heliopolis.
Destroy stuff with Heliopolis.
Rank up into Dimensional Robo.
???????????????
Win the hoop jumping contest.

[Sleepy]

Haven't read all the comments, but woah.

It's re-usable, which makes sense if you have a deck that depends on it.

 

Otherwise yes, it's too flexible. It goes without saying, there'll be at least 1 restriction here.

 

Why is Numeron Force weaker than Astral Force? Isn't the Numeron Code the code of creation itself?

[Miror B]

Venus > 3 Balls > 3 mat Rank 2 > Laggia/Dollka

 

Agents become control.

[evilfusion]

Haven't read all the comments, but woah.

It's re-usable, which makes sense if you have a deck that depends on it.

 

Otherwise yes, it's too flexible. It goes without saying, there'll be at least 1 restriction here.

 

Why is Numeron Force weaker than Astral Force? Isn't the Numeron Code the code of creation itself?

 

Numeron Force wasn't created by the Numeron Code itself, though. Numeron Force was originally Limited Barian's Force, which was weaker in the anime than regular Barian's Force. Using the advanced ZeXal power, it was changed to "its true form" of Numeron Force.

 

The Numeron Code isn't perfectly explained yet. Neither Astral nor the Barians have all 100 Numbers, which is probably what you need to access its power, As such, the Numeron Code is likely a neutral force, whereas Barian and Astral Force has a clear allegiance.

 

Barians seem to use "Chaos" power, and the Astral World apparently REJECTS Chaos power. Numeron Force supports Chaos as well. So Astral Force seems to be similar to the concept of "purity" by rejecting Chaos, and as everyone knows, purity is also viewed as stronger than chaos/darkness.

[Lonk]

Numeron Force wasn't created by the Numeron Code itself, though. Numeron Force was originally Limited Barian's Force, which was weaker in the anime than regular Barian's Force. Using the advanced ZeXal power, it was changed to "its true form" of Numeron Force.

 

The Numeron Code isn't perfectly explained yet. Neither Astral nor the Barians have all 100 Numbers, which is probably what you need to access its power, As such, the Numeron Code is likely a neutral force, whereas Barian and Astral Force has a clear allegiance.

 

Barians seem to use "Chaos" power, and the Astral World apparently REJECTS Chaos power. Numeron Force supports Chaos as well. So Astral Force seems to be similar to the concept of "purity" by rejecting Chaos, and as everyone knows, purity is also viewed as stronger than chaos/darkness.

 

Gracias para darme un concepto de carta que yo puedo usar evilfusion.

 

At first, I was baffled by Astral Force being more powerful than Numeron Force.  Then, you explained to me and now I can make an evolutionary RUM.

[Sleepy]

Numeron Force wasn't created by the Numeron Code itself, though. Numeron Force was originally Limited Barian's Force, which was weaker in the anime than regular Barian's Force. Using the advanced ZeXal power, it was changed to "its true form" of Numeron Force.

 

The Numeron Code isn't perfectly explained yet. Neither Astral nor the Barians have all 100 Numbers, which is probably what you need to access its power, As such, the Numeron Code is likely a neutral force, whereas Barian and Astral Force has a clear allegiance.

 

Barians seem to use "Chaos" power, and the Astral World apparently REJECTS Chaos power. Numeron Force supports Chaos as well. So Astral Force seems to be similar to the concept of "purity" by rejecting Chaos, and as everyone knows, purity is also viewed as stronger than chaos/darkness.

 

That can explain it fairlhy well. In exchange, now I have to say this:

Owww not again... More RUM Spells coming in the future then..... xD