Miror B Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 Barbaros isn't a Machine Dupe target. So we can finally hit Machine Dupe?Play Hustle Rustle in a skill drain deck so he won't murder your backrow or stop your summons? Iirc effects can't get negated once they start resolving, so I don't think that would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 Iirc effects can't get negated once they start resolving, so I don't think that would work. I guess it would depend on its actual wording/ruling, if this is word-for-word what it will be in English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 I guess it would depend on its actual wording/ruling, if this is word-for-word what it will be in English. Not with how I just explained it. Even if the summon is first, once the summon happens it means the effect has already started resolving and cannot be negated. At least with how I remember it. Though if they make it 2 separate effects then that's different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 Not with how I just explained it. Even if the summon is first, once the summon happens it means the effect has already started resolving and cannot be negated. At least with how I remember it. Though if they make it 2 separate effects then that's different. So... you basically just said what I responded with. If it's considered all happening at once and the effect doesn't "activate to destroy while on the field" then it wouldn't matter, but as far as the US goes the "then" effect has seemed to be flip-flopped on what it means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 So... you basically just said what I responded with. If it's considered all happening at once and the effect doesn't "activate to destroy while on the field" then it wouldn't matter, but as far as the US goes the "then" effect has seemed to be flip-flopped on what it means. Then doesn't mean it's a new effect altogether. Then means it's not simultaneous. Then or not, I don't think it would be negated by Skill Drain. My exception was 2 different trigger effects, not "then". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoRWBY65 Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 Schedule's Special Summon targets: Ally of Justice Decisive Armor Ancient Gear Gadjiltron Dragon Barbaroid, The Ultimate Battle Machine CXyz Skypalace Babylon Cyber End Dragon Digvorzhak, King of Heavy Industry Googly-Eyes Drum Dragon Metalzoa Number 40: Gimmick Puppet of Strings Number 88: Gimmick Puppet of Leo Skypalace Gangaridai Super Vehicroid - Stealth Union Super Vehicroid Jumbo Drill Superdimensional Robot Galaxy Destroyer Superdreadnought Rail Cannon Gustav Max T.G. Blade Blaster VWXYZ-Dragon Catapult Cannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 So, in other words, nothing good except the Gimmick Puppets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 CXyz Skypalace BabylonSkypalace GangaridaiIt's funny, Anna's Trains can also help Summon these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoRWBY65 Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 Wait, I forgot Night Express is also a Special Schedule Target Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faytl Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 Level 10 Machine Dupe target. Legit. Special Schedule is pretty nice as well. Maybe this hints we'll be getting more Rank 10s in future? One can only hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted September 15, 2013 Report Share Posted September 15, 2013 Excuse me. What I was actually thinking about was the "and if you do" dispute that cards like papilloperative have, in which case it would be a lot different. I had forgotten the wording and got mixed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 Night Express Knight cannot be summoned from the deck. So no dupe shenanigans now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted September 17, 2013 Report Share Posted September 17, 2013 Night Express Knight cannot be summoned from the deck. So no dupe shenanigans now. Booo! There goes my deck idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted September 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 Updated the OP. No-one should be surprised that Knight got that clause slapped on him. If they remembered that Dupe exists with Gimmick Puppet Gear Changer, they'd remember that it exists with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 Hopefully we get Coupling as the Game Book promo (assuming there is one, but that's a safe bet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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