Deck Lockdown

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

 

It really does what it says on the card. I've been testing this out since I saw that Alien deck in Japan using it, and it's really amazing. Some decks flat out lose to it, and there's a large number of others that are, if nothing else, greatly annoyed by it. It's especially painful if you can return it to your hand to get your own searches and deck summons, such as through the medium of Cosmic Fortress Gol"Gar.

 

Stops Mermails from getting their searches and Linde's effect, prevents Dragon Rulers from searching with their effects and Ravine for +s, no more Tenki, stops Maiden and White Stone from getting Blue Eyes from the deck, etc etc.

[Shradow]

This is one of those shenanigan cards I love. I ought to try it out sometime, if I can find a good deck for it.

[Not-so-Radiant Arin]

Too bad it's not permanent.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

Too bad it's not permanent.

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Cosmic_Fortress_Gol%27Gar

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Mist_Valley_Falcon

[Not-so-Radiant Arin]

Oh yeah, I skimmed through that part.

 

It's still not really a "permanent" card, though, even with the combos listed above. Unless you were absolutely dedicating a Deck to that specific card, which is a really bad way to build a Deck.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

Oh yeah, I skimmed through that part.

 

It's still not really a "permanent" card, though, even with the combos listed above. Unless you were absolutely dedicating a Deck to that specific card, which is a really bad way to build a Deck.

Yeah, if the only reason you played Gol'Gar was specifically to return this to the hand then that would be moronic, but you're not going to not use Gol"Gar in an Alien deck, and there's little reason not to use this in an Alien deck from what I've seen thus far.

[Toffee.]

Too bad it's not permanent.

Explain.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

Explain.

It only lasts until your second standby.

[Daigusto Sphreez]

It only lasts until your second standby.

 

Use it with Master Key beetle's effect, and it cannot be destroyed.

Same for Vanity's Emptiness.

Safe Zone isn't the only card Key Beetle is awesome with. 

[Blake]

Use it with Master Key beetle's effect, and it cannot be destroyed.

Same for Vanity's Emptiness.

Safe Zone isn't the only card Key Beetle is awesome with. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY&hd=1

 

Deck Lockdown's explosion is a condition, not an effect.

[goddamnit names are a pain]

Solomon's Lawbook. That might work. Although, most of the time, it would be a bother to run it, unless your opponent ran something that activated during your Standby phase.

[Toffee.]

It only lasts until your second standby.

It's the same half-assed logic as Oppression/Vanity/etc, hence why I'm saying: "Explain why it should be Continuous"

[Daigusto Sphreez]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjwaqZfjIY&hd=1

 

Deck Lockdown's explosion is a condition, not an effect.

 

By which case, Devpro has the incorrect ruling. Since on Devpro it stays on the field with Key Beetle's effect. 

[Blake]

By which case, Devpro has the incorrect ruling. Since on Devpro it stays on the field with Key Beetle's effect. 

DevPro has lots of incorrect rulings. What's your point?

[Nathanael D. Striker]

DevPro has lots of incorrect rulings. What's your point?

 

His point is that he assumed DevPro's ruling was correct, though it would have been wise for him to double check tbh.

 

@Card: Never really played this card (or Aliens for that matter), but I can understand the shenanigans that can be made. Did anyone bother running this when Brio was still around, or were people afraid of MST and Heavy?

[Airride]

It was mostly outclassed when Rai-Oh was at 2-3, but with him at 1 now, this becomes suddenly very tempting.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

Also, it's funny to note that I used this against a Beast deck the other day, whose entire monster lineup consisted of special summoning monsters from the deck. They were so mad when I kept re-using it, and had a second when the first one finally died.

[Daigusto Sphreez]

DevPro has lots of incorrect rulings. What's your point?

 

Either you got out of the wrong side of bed, or you just enjoy being a confrontational jerk. 

 

As for checking if it worked with key beetle, my source was a deck profile on youtube. So with the 2 sources combined, I had no reason to doubt deck lockdown worked with it. 

 

Anyway, this card goes into a lot of my side decks at least. Deliciously anti-meta. 

[Blake]

Either you got out of the wrong side of bed, or you just enjoy being a confrontational jerk.

As for checking if it worked with key beetle, my source was a deck profile on youtube. So with the 2 sources combined, I had no reason to doubt deck lockdown worked with it.

Anyway, this card goes into a lot of my side decks at least. Deliciously anti-meta.

I'm being blunt. I'm not attacking you or anything.

First post had the vid because I typed "you're wrong" and it made me think of that vid.

Second post points out how devpro fucks up a lot and it's common knowledge that you shouldn't trust it without valid sources.

That's not being a "confrontational jerk". It's just being blunt.

Youtube's full of awful players no different than anything else. You shouldn't trust it without research. AznEyes is a good example of a garbage player that people think is worth anything.

[Cute Rotten Yoshika]

honestly just straight up worse than mistake now that mistake is a thing. with the chibis and judgment dead special summons from the deck are pretty uncommon. linde and sphere are about the most likely sources and you should already have cards to handle them. mistake is chainable and doesnt destroy itself, making it much MUCH better.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

Prophecies are starting to use Temperance again as well, but yeah, not TOO many cards that special from the deck nowadays.

[玄魔の王]

I'm surprised more people didn't use this last format, but then again in my area I'm the only one who keeps cards that old.

Yeah, Mistake is Better this format for now, but if Assault Mode Decks get bigger I'd side Deck Lockdown first.

[Zeppeli Gyro Supreme]

I've actually been testing Mistake, and in the Alien build it is worse in that you can't just bounce it back to your hand automatically and you can't then immediately put it back down to avoid search effects on your turn. Also because sometimes you WANT it to go away so you can get your own searches. However, in a general type of deck Mistake would be better 80% of the time.

[玄魔の王]

I've actually been testing Mistake, and in the Alien build it is worse in that you can't just bounce it back to your hand automatically and you can't then immediately put it back down to avoid search effects on your turn. Also because sometimes you WANT it to go away so you can get your own searches. However, in a general type of deck Mistake would be better 80% of the time.

What draws me to Mistake is that you can chain it, allowing you to make cards like Duality and RotA fizzle. Outright stopping the activation isn't as good because then they can just bluff-set it, where chaining Mistake deprives them of that option.

 

Also, Hieratics. I forgot about Hieratics.

[Cute Rotten Yoshika]

I've actually been testing Mistake, and in the Alien build it is worse in that you can't just bounce it back to your hand automatically and you can't then immediately put it back down to avoid search effects on your turn. Also because sometimes you WANT it to go away so you can get your own searches. However, in a general type of deck Mistake would be better 80% of the time.

 

also that move is still totally valid with mistake, just reset it and activate during the draw phase. how many times is your opponent gonna search for cards during YOUR turn unless theyre running like t.g. or something? about zero.