Aix Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Once per turn: You can target 1 Plant-Type monster in your Graveyard; Special Summon that target. You cannot Normal Summon/Set during the turn you Special Summon with this effect (even if this card leaves the field). If a monster Special Summoned by this effect leaves the field, destroy this card. You know guys, this is a once-per-turn Monster Reborn/Premature Burial for plants. It's a Continuous card so it's bounce-able like Premature Burial while it doesn't destroy the Summoned monsters when destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Reported for adverti... Wait, this is an actual topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastar Rainford Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Oreo makes this so funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 The fact Lonefire is a card, is basically the whole secret to this card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 How much is that Fertilizer? $4.20? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 The fact Lonefire is a card, is basically the whole secret to this card. ... No? If you're reviving Lonefire with this 9/10 you'ree doing it wrong because you're negging yourself on a recyclable and multi-use reborn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastar Rainford Posted March 11, 2014 Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 ... No? If you're reviving Lonefire with this 9/10 you'ree doing it wrong because you're negging yourself on a recyclable and multi-use reborn. Summon Lonefire,use Oreo,bounce fert. Use Lonefire,use fert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted March 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2014 Summon Lonefire,use Oreo,bounce fert. Use Lonefire,use fert. Seriously unlikely situation. ... No? If you're reviving Lonefire with this 9/10 you'ree doing it wrong because you're negging yourself on a recyclable and multi-use reborn. You're probably going to be losing this card when you Xyz anyway. It's only a few rare times when I've actually been able to bounce this card with Oreia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastar Rainford Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 I would agree that bouncing it with Oreo is rare,but a serious winmore when you do. Funniest was dueling crappy DW. He used DwD,pitching Sylvan for sage,then sage milled sprout. Summoned Oreo,pitched primcess to sort top. Fert on Princess,Oreo mills 3 including pees,get copy plant back and bounce fert. Xyz into Felgrand,fert on princess. Turn 2 FTK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Summon Lonefire,use Oreo,bounce fert. Use Lonefire,use fert. Seriously unlikely situation. You're probably going to be losing this card when you Xyz anyway. It's only a few rare times when I've actually been able to bounce this card with Oreia. I would agree that bouncing it with Oreo is rare,but a serious winmore when you do. Funniest was dueling crappy DW. He used DwD,pitching Sylvan for sage,then sage milled sprout. Summoned Oreo,pitched primcess to sort top. Fert on Princess,Oreo mills 3 including pees,get copy plant back and bounce fert. Xyz into Felgrand,fert on princess. Turn 2 FTK What the hell are you people on? You're supposed to use Oreia with this all the time. Not EVERY game, but a good majority of them. It's why the deck is as good as it is. And why would you lose Fert when you Xyz, they aren't leaving the field so fert stay. You shouldn't be getting lonefire off of this most times because anything you can get off of Lonefire once you have grave set up is something you'd rather end up Excavating with what you have in grave and/or drawing into. And the plant princesses suck. Also, do you even know what an FTK is? FIRST Turn kill. Turn 2 is not an FTK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted March 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Actually no, Xyz Materials do leave the field. The only reason Tengu, Absolute Zero and etc don't work is because Xyz Materials don't have effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastar Rainford Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Fert dies when xyz,bc cards are not considered on the field when attached as material. My first turn..in game it would be turn 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Actually no, Xyz Materials do leave the field. The only reason Tengu, Absolute Zero and etc don't work is because Xyz Materials don't have effects. Xyz Materials do NOT leave the field. Becoming an Xyz Material doesn't kill Fertilizer because its target didn't "leave the field". Becoming a material for an Xyz is considered the same as being returned to the deck. Fert dies when xyz,bc cards are not considered on the field when attached as material. My first turn..in game it would be turn 2. Your first turn doesn't matter because it's not turn 1. Use correct terminology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted March 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 That knowledge increases how much I'll be winning from now on by 9001% percent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 The only thing I find that remotely contradicts fert staying is that it's not Konami Official yet. IE: The majority, be it Org members or ruling buffs, say it stays on the field until Konami says no. EDIT: And some people comparing it to flipping the monster Fert's loving on FD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Fertilizer will not be destroyed when the monster it revives is used as an Xyz Material as it is not leaving the field. Please understand this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastar Rainford Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Xyz Materials are not sent to the Graveyard. Instead, they are placed on the same Monster Card Zone beneath the Summoned Xyz Monster. In this state, they are not treated as monsters, nor are they treated as being on the field,...thus they left the field A First Turn Kill is similar to a One Turn Kill, but this is pulled off in the player's first turn....thus still an FTK bc its my first turn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Xyz Materials are not sent to the Graveyard. Instead, they are placed on the same Monster Card Zone beneath the Summoned Xyz Monster. In this state, they are not treated as monsters, nor are they treated as being on the field,...thus they left the field A First Turn Kill is similar to a One Turn Kill, but this is pulled off in the player's first turn....thus still an FTK bc its my first turn But they didn't. You haven't proven they leave the field. The rulings still say they didn't, and are to be treated as such until solid proof happens. It's similar to being flipped fd or returned to the deck, according to the rulings. No, a First Turn Kill is a kill that happens before the other player gets a turn. http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/First_Turn_Kill The first line is deeiving, but if you use context clues, it shows that it's THE first turn. Shocking, I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted March 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Xyz Materials are not sent to the Graveyard. Instead, they are placed on the same Monster Card Zone beneath the Summoned Xyz Monster. In this state, they are not treated as monsters, nor are they treated as being on the field,...thus they left the field A First Turn Kill is similar to a One Turn Kill, but this is pulled off in the player's first turn....thus still an FTK bc its my first turnhttp://duelistgroundz.com/index.php?showtopic=143847http://www.pojo.biz/board/showthread.php?t=1162854http://duelistgroundz.com/index.php?showtopic=144306http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Leaves_the_field Also, Rulebook pg 45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastar Rainford Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 They are being moved from the field to a limbo.thus , just like bouncing to hand, removes them from field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 I don't understand anything anymore By that logic, when Tengu is detached, I SHOULD be able to get its effect. I don't. Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastar Rainford Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 B/c cards like Tengu,Sangan,and Absolute Zero are considered w/out effects when attached as xyz material Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 I don't understand anything anymore By that logic, when Tengu is detached, I SHOULD be able to get its effect. I don't. Why not? Think of it like this Monster -> Material It's still on the field, but as a material Material -> Removed It's removed from the field, but it's no longer a monster B/c cards like Tengu,Sangan,and Absolute Zero are considered w/out effects when attached as xyz material You should really quit when you;re behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted March 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 B/c cards like Tengu,Sangan,and Absolute Zero are considered w/out effects when attached as xyz material I already went and searched and gave you a ton of links. Plus a page in the Rulebook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not-so-Radiant Arin Posted March 12, 2014 Report Share Posted March 12, 2014 Without effects? What kind of logic is this? How and what do you base this supremely asinine logic? Also, Black, I was being sarcastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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