Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 I think a card that circumvented all costs would be hard to word, seeing as, I believe, cost is not an official term. Or at least not used in card text. Economics obviously gets around that for just life points. If such a card did exist, would you still get the +2 off this? That would break it even more than the double draw, imo. I didn't think there was a card that literally said you don't have to pay the cost, but there are cards that can "activate" cards with their effect, thus making the activation cost not a variable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delibirb Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 I didn't think there was a card that literally said you don't have to pay the cost, but there are cards that can "activate" cards with their effect, thus making the activation cost not a variable. Ah yes, so a serial spell that works for continuous spells. You could go make one? :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 Obviously the best move with this, is upon drawing your lone 2, you draw into Guardian Grarl and Gravity Axe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 Obviously the best move with this, is upon drawing your lone 2, you draw into Guardian Grarl and Gravity Axe. No, you do that on the second turn. You draw Backup Gardna and a defensive S/T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigo Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 No, you do that on the second turn. You draw Backup Gardna and a defensive S/T. Nah, you topdeck Archfiend and Necromancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 not if only there was a way to get this on the field, face-up, without "activating" it. just ninja in that draw 2 a turn and bam. fun on a side note, getting a 2 draw off it's play, and if it survives a turn, you draw 2 over 1,. so your only at -2 then. one more turn, 0, turn after that, you finally start seeing some profit. hmmm.... spellbooks? fuel the tower with a hand drop and draw 3 a turn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 My inner masochist is calling to me to play this card....or that's just me being a bad player. While a negative is a negative, graveyard fuel exists. Not saying this is optimal, but... Getting it to go off would be something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 I'd play this in an artifact format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigo Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 I'd play this in an artifact format. In the artifact deck, by the way. Nah, this is just too silly, I just love the fact Raphael is getting his cards printed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 Backup Gardna nao plz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 Ignoring MST and such, if you ever have enough cards to discard, and survive long enough to plus off of this, you would have won with basically anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 The problems with this card are just too many. -3 the turn you play it, only being playable when you have gained a good amount of advantage or it's the first turn/in OCG the 2nd or 3rd turn, you have to play multiple copies of it to ever expect to see it and drawing into said copies except when you're going to dump them to activate this sucks unless you're playing a deck that plusses hard, in which case you probably wouldn't want a card this slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 Technically you can drop Thunder Dragons to mitigate the pain and enable this in OCG play. Even if it had an Orichalcos protection clause though, it'd still not be great. Even with a 0 discard cost and the rest as is, this would probably be more balanced than Supply Unit, and that's interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delibirb Posted April 15, 2014 Report Share Posted April 15, 2014 Technically you can drop Thunder Dragons to mitigate the pain and enable this in OCG play. Even if it had an Orichalcos protection clause though, it'd still not be great. Even with a 0 discard cost and the rest as is, this would probably be more balanced than Supply Unit, and that's interesting. Well, maybe not the instant +2, but perhaps it could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 $10 they put MST to 1 and ban the MST clone just to sell this card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigo Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 $10 they put MST to 1 and ban the MST clone just to sell this card. I wouldn't be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Considering we're getting Pendulums, I wouldn't be surprised if MST gets a hit, as stupid as that would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 MST gets hit? Don't worry I have 6+ more to spare. MST getting hit would be stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted April 16, 2014 Report Share Posted April 16, 2014 Considering we have Artifact Movement, I doubt MST will be hit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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