Lunar Origins Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 This card seems fairly alright for what it is. Discuss. 3 Level 10 monstersYou can also Xyz Summon this card by discarding 1 "Rank-Up-Magic"Spell Card and using a "Utopia" monster you control as the Xyz Material. (Xyz Materials attached to it also become Xyz Materials on this card.) Once per turn: You can target 1 "Number" monster in your Graveyard; Special Summon it in face-up Defense Position. Its effectsare negated. During either player's turn, when a monster effect that targets this face-up card is activated: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; negate the activation, and if you do, destroy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 Idk, it feels really underwhelming to me. Its anime effect was brutal, but with some little tweaks it could have worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 It's a really nice options in RUM decks that plays any Utopia. RUMtricks, R6 Astral, or things. Main problem is extra deck space is always a bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 I feel like it needed to A) attach the RUM to itself, and B) work on any targeting effect. As-is, it at least does something with that annoying RUM 71-proof you drew off-timing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 Best discard target is Argent. Too bad that Utopia decks don't run Argent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastar Rainford Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 Unless, you know that rank 6 utopia >.> but who would focus a deck on that and Barian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 Unless, you know that rank 6 utopia >.> but who would focus a deck on that and Barian Again, too bad Utopia decks can't use Argent (since the Rank 6 Utopia isn't a Number C or CXyz monster.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alastar Rainford Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 Rank 6 Utopia argent into cxyz barian... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Hollow Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 I feel it's underpowered... it's really easy to summon in Utopia decks. And when it comes to ranking up a number 39, It's better to go for V/Victory than this in most cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 It's not underpowered at all when Roots is a card. You just run it in Ghostrick as a boss to drop astrals for when you can R1. 4K and can't be targeted and can get back beaters/walls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warden Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 Love it in my AF Rank 6 deck. But, I have to agree. Using it on Utopia Roots sounds like THE best thing ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 It's not underpowered at all when Roots is a card. You just run it in Ghostrick as a boss to drop astrals for when you can R1. 4K and can't be targeted and can get back beaters/walls. Spells and Traps can target it freely. Only Monsters get blown up, and only if you have Xyz Material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 Spells and Traps can target it freely. Only Monsters get blown up, and only if you have Xyz Material.Relevant Targeting S/T:Lance - not relevant against 4KBook of Moon - LimitedPWWB/Raigeki Break - Particularly the former, is an actual concernCompulse - Bad in TCG, only decent online, not really a great card, also limitedSo most decks have all of 1-2 targetting outs to it after it hits the board, and bad decks will have Dark Hole.And who cares if you have to have mats, it BLOWS THEM UP and usually starts with 3 mats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 One of the coolest things about this card is that very little in the Rank 4 toolbox counters it, so dumb 4spam Decks have to draw into an out. Exciton's almost never going to trigger because of the card investment required for Dragun. The only generic answer at 4 is Thunder Spark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 Relevant Targeting S/T: Lance - not relevant against 4K Book of Moon - Limited PWWB/Raigeki Break - Particularly the former, is an actual concern Compulse - Bad in TCG, only decent online, not really a great card, also limited. So most decks have all of 1-2 targetting outs to it after it hits the board, and bad decks will have Dark Hole. The options are few, but they exist.And who cares if you have to have mats, it BLOWS THEM UP and usually starts with 3 mats. I am now waiting for the interaction between 99 and C101 to manifest before me, because it will be hilarius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 The options are few, but they exist.I am now waiting for the interaction between 99 and C101 to manifest before me, because it will be hilarius.*raised hand*Did that before.Well, blew it up during my turn, then they tried to nom Hope Dragun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 I would say Yubel decks could run this but wasting three Yubels for this would be bad. If only Metal Reflect Slime were more viable. I suppose a Lemuria Shark deck could get one or two of these out somehow but I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 ...why would you waste 3 level 10s for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGATHODAIMON BANGTAIL COW Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 I would say Yubel decks could run this but wasting three Yubels for this would be bad. If only Metal Reflect Slime were more viable. I suppose a Lemuria Shark deck could get one or two of these out somehow but I doubt it. Pssst, except for M7 and maybe something else, if a monster has an alternative Summoning condition like this does, you always Summon it that way instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Pssst, except for M7 and maybe something else, if a monster has an alternative Summoning condition like this does, you always Summon it that way instead.Gaia Dragon gets summoned as an R7, for that "Something else". and DMoI can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 ...why would you waste 3 level 10s for it? Why would you Summon it that way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Its ability to revive Numbers shouldn't be undersold. Summoning the monsters Defense Position is unfortunate, but the effect negation is actually a plus if you're reviving Utopia, since it'll negate its self-destruction effect. You can also revive Utopia and evolve it into Utopia Ray in Attack Position, although if you're doing that, I don't think you have room for any Extra Deck monster that isn't a form of Utopia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 This now calls for a RUM Deck that abuses this card's effects to hell and back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Its ability to revive Numbers shouldn't be undersold. Summoning the monsters Defense Position is unfortunate, but the effect negation is actually a plus if you're reviving Utopia, since it'll negate its self-destruction effect. You can also revive Utopia and evolve it into Utopia Ray in Attack Position, although if you're doing that, I don't think you have room for any Extra Deck monster that isn't a form of Utopia.2 S392-3 OG 390-1-2-3 Rank-Up 39 (C-V, C-Victory, Beyond)0-1 99So only 4(never gonna happen)-9 slotsThen 101, Castel, Exciton, Dweller, probably C101 if you're running Limited, probably Strike Bounzer is Astral, and then another slot or few foor whatever general R4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
werewolfjedi Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 I actually want to try this in my ghostricks. it sounds hilarious and trolly. fits them perfectly to a t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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