★☆HOW TO FREAKING WRITE A COMMENT☆★

[Poisoned Simochi]

First thing first. I hope you don't feel victimized or that we're mean or anything like that. People tend to feel like that and focus on that rather than the logic of the argument. We may sound harsh but we're all big softies inside.

 

If you state something that is so self-explanatory that it wouldn't really benefit from elaboration, doesn't that just mean you've stated the obvious? I mean, that's not very helpful either.

Not at all, I'm just arguing for my point until it moves in, I believe the standards mentioned in this thread are unrealistic for a forum, when a forum is suppoused to provoke discussion, not for you to publish a card and people writing lists of it's pros and cons, but a place where you can express all opinions, given that they're justified and are sane and reasoned.

Middle ground needs to be accepted too, even if it's not written as a whole review.

[Slinky]

Not at all, I'm just arguing for my point until it moves in, I believe the standards mentioned in this thread are unrealistic for a forum, when a forum is suppoused to provoke discussion, not for you to publish a card and people writing lists of it's pros and cons, but a place where you can express all opinions, given that they're justified and are sane and reasoned.

Middle ground needs to be accepted too, even if it's not written as a whole review.

 

What point?

Basically, your entire post that was engineered here was basically this:

"Card is broken. Fix it."

 

You say a forum is trying to provoke discussion. BUT WHERE IN THOSE 5 WORDS IS THERE A MEANS FOR DISCUSSION?

 

THAT is the point we are getting at. Your post didn't generate discussion at all. You were basically just telling them to fuck off.

[Poisoned Simochi]

What point?

Basically, your entire post that was engineered here was basically this:

"Card is broken. Fix it."

 

You say a forum is trying to provoke discussion. BUT WHERE IN THOSE 5 WORDS IS THERE A MEANS FOR DISCUSSION?

 

THAT is the point we are getting at. Your post didn't generate discussion at all. You were basically just telling them to f*** off.

What's wrong with you..? you don't have to say it like a moron, can you rephrase so I can get what the f*** you're trying to say ?

I'll try to reply on what I understood, I was never telling anyone to "f*** off", I said my comment* in that thread was provoking discussion because it did.

I brought three subjects to the table, the card aesthetics, on which I'd love to have a discussion, the usual comment on the card's power and my suggestions to fix it, the OCG thing which if you read is yelling, let's talk about.

Now to what looks like the most idiotic remark in a good while "what point?!"

well, if you look carefully, there are 3 lines of text after it, carefully presenting my point if anywhere, in this 2 paged thread you missed it.

Jesus, take a break.

Not "forum is trying to provoke discussion", but that comment I wrote back then did.

This argument is losing all point now, please, get the point already, nobody has to elaborate like crazy and each card "review" to address and list all issues you might have or all questions that are raised, when writing a comment you must write it with reason, point, explain it and think before you post, which is what most of us already do. anything beyond that is unnecessary.

That's the basis for a usefull comment, that's what I called middle ground 1 post ago.

 

*: I have linked it twice now, under spoilers.

[evilfusion]

I'm not even sure why there is an "argument". Aix explicitly removed mention of the authors, so the irony is that by complaining about the inclusion of one of your comments, you drew attention to the fact you wrote one. Something that within a week would have been extremely hard to locate.

 

When I look at the comment that Aix referenced, I notice he made a remark beneath it about what's wrong with it. Specifically, you make a comment about the card being powerful. Aix points out you should ELABORATE on why it's considered powerful. Your comment continues about how long lores are boring if they're not special, and make a card look unattractive. Aix merely muses as to whether the aesthetics of a card are incredibly important.

 

You seem to believe they are. That's fine. However, your full-quoted post as provided by you doesn't really spark a discussion about the aesthetics of the card (if that was your intention...it didn't communicate that well), and you never did elaborate on what made the card you were reviewing powerful, but you mention it again at the end, suggesting the Special Summon effect being removed, merely calling it "too annoying, too powerful". Simply referring to a card as powerful is not useful feedback. Tell the creator WHY you deem it as such (cost or lack of, easily fulfilled, extremely difficult to overcome, etc).

 

It would be like me coming into this thread and saying "this argument is stupid" without explaining why (Actually, that's usually sufficient). But then again, I'm not really obligated to give feedback on the validity of arguments before putting an end to them.

 

 

 

 

The aesthetics of the card are not nearly as important as the function of the card. Imagine we have somebody attractive, such as...

 

J-Max, for example.

 

Prime example of the Adonis. A true stud among studs.

 

But, rather than helping you sell a product, he is a seductress that ends up fornicating with every client in his cubicle as he also gets a rush from such an exciting act in public space.

 

And then you have Aix.

 

He has the face and stomach of Shrek but the height of a Farquaad.

 

But he sells your product so well that all the clients end up fornicating with you in YOUR office while you make a lot more money.

 

I would much rather have Aix as a worker.

 

I'm convinced this is an assassination attempt, because I almost died.

[Slinky]

This guy gets it.

[Slinky]

I just looked at the topic where you posted it. I saw zero discussion there from your post. Everyone else provided thoughtful feedback. You didn't say "fuck off" in the literal sense. Its the tone of the post, and the way you presented yourself.

 

And the point has been said MULTIPLE TIMES. You are just too blind to see it.

 

The point is. Stating something IS NOT ENOUGH. WHY do you feel that way? If you don't provide why, the content CANNOT be discussed.. because there is nothing TO discuss.

 

Very powerful, I'd shorten it's effect though to make it more simple, long lores get sometimes dull if they don't contain very special effects in them, the card might still be technically useful but is less attractive (not in looks, in overall).

-needless jabber-

IMO you should remove the Special Summoning effect.. too annoying, too powerful.

 

Okay, its powerful, -jabber jabber about lore that is actually a pretty average length-

OCG Fix (That was not only completely wrong, but fully irrelevant considering there was nothing wrong with the wording)

Random Suggestion

 

You didn't elaborate at all. This is what would generate discussion:

 

The card seems very powerful due to also being able to negate Magic/Traps. In addition to being able to negate magic/traps, it is able to effortlessly able to special summon itself and lock down your opponent. I'd suggest removing the ability to negate activations, or at least restrict what it is able to negate.

 

^Know how long it took me to type that? 25 seconds. You don't need to make this super long, you just need to make your points and explain why you feel that way. You don't need to go into specifics, you can be generic.

[Poisoned Simochi]

I'm not even sure why there is an "argument". Aix explicitly removed mention of the authors, so the irony is that by complaining about the inclusion of one of your comments, you drew attention to the fact you wrote one. Something that within a week would have been extremely hard to locate.

 

When I look at the comment that Aix referenced, I notice he made a remark beneath it about what's wrong with it. Specifically, you make a comment about the card being powerful. Aix points out you should ELABORATE on why it's considered powerful. Your comment continues about how long lores are boring if they're not special, and make a card look unattractive. Aix merely muses as to whether the aesthetics of a card are incredibly important.

 

You seem to believe they are. That's fine. However, your full-quoted post as provided by you doesn't really spark a discussion about the aesthetics of the card (if that was your intention...it didn't communicate that well), and you never did elaborate on what made the card you were reviewing powerful, but you mention it again at the end, suggesting the Special Summon effect being removed, merely calling it "too annoying, too powerful". Simply referring to a card as powerful is not useful feedback. Tell the creator WHY you deem it as such (cost or lack of, easily fulfilled, extremely difficult to overcome, etc).

 

It would be like me coming into this thread and saying "this argument is stupid" without explaining why (Actually, that's usually sufficient). But then again, I'm not really obligated to give feedback on the validity of arguments before putting an end to them.

I don't see why you think I care about bringing any attention to that comment, as if you think I'm ashamed of it. mentioned it for the sole reason of providing an example where a comment was considered improper when IMO it is.
To argue and change the accepted level of elaboration people in this thread think is needed.

Someone in a different thread, suggested infracting people who commented with such level of elaboration, it was ridiculous. then someone opens this thread, seemingly lists three points which I completly agree with and quotes me under improper comment examples, there I am ever since arguing about what's okay to comment and what's not.

 

Anyway, when you tell someone his card is overpowered, and then suggest him to remove a part of the effect, wouldn't that someone understand that it's that part you suggested to remove - that made it powerful? that's just inferring.

@Dyson no prob. that's what I thought I did, obviously none in this thread even saw it that way. as long as it's that there's no prob then.

 

and the OCG part was for my information aswell, that's where the OP or someone else could tell me what's right, it was something I needed the answer to myself, as you see, there's 80% doubt in the phrasing of that part, I presented the OCG way I thought to have seen in a recent OCG fix thread, I was not sure how to do it myself so it was partly a question for myself. it's not irrelevant jabber.

[Oriannis]

I'm just going to tip toe around this argument and say something about the actual post.

 

I think this is a very fair point. It annoys me when people say something that is by no means constructive. In my opinion a good proper comment can be negative or positive, just so long as it gives me something to work on for next time. Don't get me wrong. I do like comments such as "I like this card" but it's still frustrating.

 

This topic should be pinned IMO, it might raise a little awareness, even if new members wont read it. 

[J-Max]

Reading this topic has inspired me in two ways

 

1) From now on I will be thinking long and hard as I type out a card effect, checking its impact on the current Meta and working out any kinks (while giving it adequate Negatives to outweigh the positives)

 

2) I will be doing my best to review cards on here. I will be honest, I am always hesitant to do so but I need to swallow my pride and dissect a persons card to compliment them or give them helpful advice. I have learnt a lot from this thread today and I am grateful.

[(GigaDrillBreaker)]

Yup. I will now make an effort to review anything I see in RC. More quality reviews=less people complaining the forum is dead.

[Tourmaline]

Reading this topic has inspired me in two ways

 

1) From now on I will be thinking long and hard as I type out a card effect, checking its impact on the current Meta and working out any kinks (while giving it adequate Negatives to outweigh the positives)

 

2) I will be doing my best to review cards on here. I will be honest, I am always hesitant to do so but I need to swallow my pride and dissect a persons card to compliment them or give them helpful advice. I have learnt a lot from this thread today and I am grateful.

 

3) I will stop trying to have sex with the men and women who walk into this building. This will, of course, be something I will also be thinking "long and hard" about. I will now more gracefully swallow the "pride" of others as well as my own, rather than always attempting to be the dominant partner.

 

I am honestly very impressed by your set of epiphanies and would like to wish you good fortune in the future with the fulfillment of them.

 

Good job.

[J-Max]

I am honestly very impressed by your set of epiphanies and would like to wish you good fortune in the future with the fulfillment of them.

 

Good job.

Thank you very much ^^ It took a thread like this to realize that I am a pretty bad Card Designer at times and need to study everything and not just have a card with a nice Picture with a Essay of an effect lol. Good luck to you on YCM and in Real Life :3

 

EDIT: Oh God I just read your addition! LMAO!

[Not-so-Radiant Arin]

You know, this wouldn't be a thing if you all used your heads and even had a shred of common sense.

 

Also, hooray for Alice making J-Pedo even more of a freak of nature than he already is. I congratulate your hard work.

[J-Max]

You know, this wouldn't be a thing if you all used your heads and even had a shred of common sense.

 

Also, hooray for Alice making J-Pedo even more of a freak of nature than he already is. I congratulate your hard work.

Shut up.... Just Shut up....

[Not-so-Radiant Arin]

Shut up.... Just Shut up....

No. I won't.

 

You have no right to be here.

[Althemia]

You know, this wouldn't be a thing if you all used your heads and even had a shred of common sense.
 
Also, hooray for Alice making J-Pedo even more of a freak of nature than he already is. I congratulate your hard work.

I don't like J-Max as much as the next person, but can you seriously just leave him the hell alone? We get it, you don't like the guy. There's no point in crying about it every single time the guy posts, especially since you're really not in any kind of high authority with the rest of the members to even be making such shots like that.

And good for you, J-Max. I honestly just hope that you learn a thing or two about card design from here, because your other attempts have been... questionable. I shall also attempt to comment on RC threads, but my interest tends to be caught away by other things quickly so no promises.

[J-Max]

No. I won't.

 

You have no right to be here.

You have no right to be a whiny bitch to me yet you do. Seriously, get out of my face. As I said the other day, I have had enough of people like you.

[D.A._Sakuyamon]

In regards to cards and the need for them to adjust to the meta. I don't particularly agree with that. Like if you'v got an arch-type idea and want to post a generic-ish single from it to get an opinion from others to post the rest in the proper section.  That card doesn't have to match the standards of the meta nor does the rest of Arch-type. Now of course flat out generic cards should have some semblance of the meta in mind but doesn't not need to be built around it.

 

[spoiler=An Example of an Arch-type card that could work in SR]

 

Effect

this monster is also a Fairy-type. If this card is face-up during the End Phase of your opponents turn, return it to your hand. You can return 1 "Watcher" monster (except "Watcher - Infector")you control to the hand to Special Summon this card from your hand. You can only Special Summon "Watcher, Mr. Infector" once per turn this way. If this card is returned to the hand; Draw 1 card.

 

[/spoiler]

[Aix]

Also, hooray for Alice making J-Pedo even more of a freak of nature than he already is. I congratulate your hard work.

Any more of this and you're on mod queue. It was the mods' decision to bring him back, you have no say in this. As far as I'm concerned, he hasn't started posting porn all over the site, and if he does, use the report button.

[J-Max]

I don't like J-Max as much as the next person, but can you seriously just leave him the hell alone? We get it, you don't like the guy. There's no point in crying about it every single time the guy posts, especially since you're really not in any kind of high authority with the rest of the members to even be making such shots like that.

And good for you, J-Max. I honestly just hope that you learn a thing or two about card design from here, because your other attempts have been... questionable. I shall also attempt to comment on RC threads, but my interest tends to be caught away by other things quickly so no promises.

Thank you Koko.... We may not see eye to eye if at all but thanks for sticking up for me there. Yeah, I will probally stick with Written for a little while too as I am normally sidetracked finding pretty images half the time lol. Again thanks.....

Any more of this and you're on mod queue. It was the mods' decision to bring him back, you have no say in this. As far as I'm concerned, he hasn't started posting porn all over the site, and if he does, use the report button.

You as well Aix.... I have been on my best behavior since my return and never plan to post Porn everywhere either.

[Kazooie]

I don't like J-Max as much as the next person, but can you seriously just leave him the hell alone? We get it, you don't like the guy. There's no point in crying about it every single time the guy posts, especially since you're really not in any kind of high authority with the rest of the members to even be making such shots like that.

And good for you, J-Max. I honestly just hope that you learn a thing or two about card design from here, because your other attempts have been... questionable. I shall also attempt to comment on RC threads, but my interest tends to be caught away by other things quickly so no promises.

 

This.

 

I don't like J-Max at all. Seriously. I don't think he deserved to come back again. But there is no reason to go into threads just to comment and insult him. It's childish and silly.

 

If he does anything to earn his ban again, I don't think they'll hesitate to ban him. But as is, he's back and he doesn't deserve to be shot at each time he posts.

 

OT: I need to get back into the swing of things here in RC. I haven't posted in a long, long time and I really should. My attention span is kinda short though, so I can't say I'll post as much as I want to. x-x

[Oriannis]

This.

 

I don't like J-Max at all. Seriously. I don't think he deserved to come back again. But there is no reason to go into threads just to comment and insult him. It's childish and silly.

 

If he does anything to earn his ban again, I don't think they'll hesitate to ban him. But as is, he's back and he doesn't deserve to be shot at each time he posts.

 

OT: I need to get back into the swing of things here in RC. I haven't posted in a long, long time and I really should. My attention span is kinda short though, so I can't say I'll post as much as I want to. x-x

 

I agree with you here. If J-max is back to re-build his reputation as an honest member then I see no reason for people to shot him down for trying. I don't condone what he did but I trust the mods in their decision and I believe there is such a thing as a second chance.

[Overfrost!]

I agree with you here. If J-max is back to re-build his reputation as an honest member then I see no reason for people to shot him down for trying. I don't condone what he did but I trust the mods in their decision and I believe there is such a thing as a second chance.

Can I ask what did he do? Since this troubles my mind somehow.
I'll most likely won't change my view on him though.

[J-Max]

Thanks everyone..... Yeah, I am back and nothing can change that. I wanted to rebuild my reputation as a decent member around here as I did some stupid things in the past yet some of the things I did (like Pokevolution and me being a Mod) were great. To this day I still appriciate the second chance and hope to one day get my Status back as a Legendary Member.

 

It's true, some people may not like me at all but that gives you no right to try and turn me away from here by insulting me. I am here so please learn to live with me around here. Heck I am normally the person who minds his own buisness anyway. You don't insult me, I won't bite back. Simples ^^

Can I ask what did he do? Since this troubles my mind somehow.
I'll most likely won't change my view on him though.

Take the member Degritone? Multiply that by 5 and that was me. Heck I did some pretty nasty stuff back then I would rather put behind me now. 2 Years was a while to heal and get a complete change of mind.

[CrowCardMaster]

I would like to know what happen to a site where people could make a card to have fun, post it to see what people think and add from there.

I have been gone for what 4-5 years (this is a new account and i couldnt remember the password for my old one, plus its been deleted) and now it sounds like all cards have to be competitve worthy? Im not saying this is stupid and what you guys are say/doing is wrong and your ruining the site but let the not so smart comment on the not so smart (meaning the ones who dont know to much about competitive)

 

And .Aix telling people to go play a duel or some sort of competitive just to know how to make good cards just proves what I just said, im pretty sure this site wasn't just made with the mindset that everyone that would come here was a competitive player, but to let people make those silly over powered cards with they faces on them(not to post of course). Again not saying that your wrong about commenting or any of that. 

 

Maybe I would agree more if i know what a comment was like since no one usually comments on stuff I make and take one look and leave. Which also makes me feel like sometimes I cant even comment on someones card because I have no say BECAUSE I havent even gotten an criticism on my cards so how do i know what to say??