Bringerofcake Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 Once per turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card to activate 1 of these effects; ● Send 1 card from your Deck to the Graveyard. ● Choose 1 monster from your Deck and place it on top of your Deck. I think this card needs a ban. Too easy to get out, does too much for too little, behind all sorts of loops and combos that either end up as multiple versions of this or a bunch of other Rank 4s. And that's not counting the ability to stack your deck. Am I raving? Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebuchet MS Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 I think we had a thread on this in the past, and it derailed and ended badly. If it goes that way again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 I wouldn't even post here if not the above stupid post. Thumbs up Bringer. Saying things like this surely won't trigger anyone. And that thread wasn't even about its banlist position, only design. IMO it could go to 1 but I guess it could be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 It is great in Battery Hunders, setting up plays with both AAA and Soul Charge. And recycling batteries. And Battery Charger. A ban feels drastic, but considering the work it does as a one-of there really aren't other options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted September 2, 2014 Report Share Posted September 2, 2014 I'm not used to playing this. I rarely build decks that want to mill specific cards so I usually leave this out of the Extra Deck and reserve the space for other Rank4 tools, forgetting about its topdeck effect or that I can mill whatever for other combos; but I digress. I am aware of how this card is abused (e.g. Infernities), and I agree that it deserves a ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadenxAtemYAOI Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Card does deserve its ban. It's 2x Foolish Burial in one card and generic. Bad enough that it's at 3. The only real reason it's at 3 is due to Breakthrough and Veiler. That and low attack/defense but that doesn't really matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zauls Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 It is a terribly designed card when the game is as it is, but really it is just fuel for even more broken and degenerate stuff (I'm looking at you Infernity Archfiend). Since the only relevant deck that properly full-on abuses this is Infernities, I would rather just see Archfiend banned and then Chain can go on adding a bit of combo power to rogue decks and nothing more. Though perhaps banning it is good in the long run because it also limits design as it sets loads of stuff up too easily. Limiting it wouldn't do anything except with regard to Infernities because no other deck plays more than 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultravires Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Infernity isn't the only problem. Stacking Scepter and stacking BLS/DAD say hi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The15thWing Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Oh hey, it's Enabler.card! But yeah, this is like the glue that meshes broke'd cards together. Infernities can utilize and abuse, it's basically 2 Foolish if it lives to next turn, it fuels too many combos for it to stay at 3 IMO. But the problem being, nobody really runs more than 1, so it'd have to be banned or left untouched. I think it needs a ban, taking account of all the plays it makes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 Infernity isn't the only problem. Stacking Scepter and stacking BLS/DAD say hi. That reminds me of a deck i saw back then that utilizes Blue Blooded Oni and some other Zombie yokai monsters to spam this then stack and draw DAD immediately. Forgot the exacts of that deck though. OT: Stupid card. Offers too much utility for too many decks. Makes a lot of powerful combos viable just by existing, and helped some other to be even more powerful. Don't know what to do with it though tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_engineer Posted September 3, 2014 Report Share Posted September 3, 2014 nobody really runs more than 1 Infernity always runs it at 3, rarely at 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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