(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Pendulum Effect Once per turn: You can target 1 "DD" monster you control; it gains 800 ATK until the end of this turn. Monster Effect Once per turn, if a monster(s) you control is destroyed by battle or by card effect: You can target 1 of those monsters; this card gains ATK equal to that monster's original ATK until the end of this turn. This card cannot attack directly the turn you activate this effect. This card cannot be destroyed by Spell/Trap effects that do not target it. So, this card, aside from utter jank like chevalier, is the worst card in DDDs. However, like many jank cards, it actually has a use that comes up on DN quite often: killing killer. This boosts Leonidas up to 3100 atk, and Alexander up to 3000, both of which are enough to kill that terrible, terrible card. This feels very bad, but idiots running killer force better players to run bad cards, from Decisive Armor to this. Discuss DDD CEO, as well as all the dumb things killer makes us run simlly by existing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Heh, I love how everyone's calling Killer "bad" and such, and then need to force terrible techs to kill it. Killer is not BAD. It's very strong. Just suboptimal. But if someone does run it, it packs a huge punch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted October 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Heh, I love how everyone's calling Killer "bad" and such, and then need to force terrible techs to kill it. Killer is not BAD. It's very strong. Just suboptimal. But if someone does run it, it packs a huge punch. Killer is... unexpected. Just a few weeks ago, we all scolded someone for running it. Now it is roflstomping us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Killer is weird. It's strong, really strong. Deck CAN win without it easily, but some people still run it. So we need to be prepared for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted October 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Yes. The thing is that it is a horribly dead draw, but with tool, they can get away with only running 1. Luckily, other decks have just-as-toolboxable 1-of answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 that reminds me of one time when I duality'd for Solemn Warning and the next turn my opponent tries to summon Killer. But yeah, CEO is jank despite its amazingly edgy name. Could've used a better immunity tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted October 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 I think ttat if it gave targetting protection to whatever it boosted would be enough to make up for the horrid, lilith-hating scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greiga Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 as well as all the dumb things killer makes us run simlly by existing. Idk I think HC Excalibur is pretty good. OT: Wasn't there a time when we thought the attack gain wasn't OPT, before the IRL was confirmed? Having non-targetting protection might be funny considering how many people look for things that don't target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted October 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Idk I think HC Excalibur is pretty good. OT: Wasn't there a time when we thought the attack gain wasn't OPT, before the IRL was confirmed? Having non-targetting protection might be funny considering how many people look for things that don't target. Well, he tanks a raigeki... so that is cool, I guess... tbh, I have never actually summoned it. Only used it to kill killer/push for game. And yes. Excalibur is a VERY good killer answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 Your math sucks. Alexander: 2500 - 500 + 800 = 2800. Not enough for killer. Leonidas: 2600 -500 +800 = 2900. Still not enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(GigaDrillBreaker) Posted October 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 Somehow I was under the impression killer reduced by 300. Well fuck. Proud ogre, whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 summon this card and something else. Ram the something else to killer, activate this card's effect, and increase this card's ATK. kill the killer. unreliable as f***, yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 CEO is REALLY bad, dead draw 70% of the time, searchable but then why would you when leonidas is a choice/ other combo moves, also its scales are really bad. Its worst quality is its level by far, the only scales they have that can summon this involves kepler, a card that reduces its scale to 8 in one turn thus unable to bring back a dead CEO. As for killer, the best way around that ive found is star eater, but ofc thats in no way summonable in DDD's so DDD's are just screwed if killer hits the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted October 18, 2014 Report Share Posted October 18, 2014 As for killer, the best way around that ive found is star eater, but ofc thats in no way summonable in DDD's so DDD's are just screwed if killer hits the field. Yeah, they might as well enter scoop phase the moment Killer hits teh field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goddamnit names are a pain Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Yeah, they might as well enter scoop phase the moment Killer hits teh field. Maybe that's why we think Killer sucks so bad Because people feel the need to summon him turn one and say "nope, f*** you, you can't even play for a turn" because they really need to win at a children's card game that badly. Qlips are such a stupid deck. Decisive Armor doesn't even effectively do s*** because either A: His Attack will be reduced B: They tributes whatever Qlip bounces s*** C. they force you to send monsters you don't quite have D. the 1000 attack barely even helps Trish and Valk get over him, and that's not counting what they have in the pendulum zones. Killer is so deliberately stupid it pisses me off. Anyway, on to this... It revolves around destruction to use its monster effect, which is bad, but that boost can be damn strong, I suppose. 800 boost…doesn't feel like a lot, I'm fine with Ogre's boost. He's a level 8 so he doesn't even get PS'd that often, so overall, yes, I wouldn't even think of playing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Faytl~ Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Really inconvenient card, it's summoning is difficult, really the easiest way to summon him is off of Temujin, and even that's not optimal. DDDs could really use a better boss card that this, especially since it does just about nothing for the deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdom Xathers Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Your math sucks. Alexander: 2500 - 500 + 800 = 2800. Not enough for killer. Leonidas: 2600 -500 +800 = 2900. Still not enough Can't you just, like, compound that with Ogre's Effect to mitigate the ATK loss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted October 19, 2014 Report Share Posted October 19, 2014 Maybe that's why we think Killer sucks so bad Because people feel the need to summon him turn one and say "nope, f*** you, you can't even play for a turn" because they really need to win at a children's card game that badly. Qlips are such a stupid deck. Decisive Armor doesn't even effectively do s*** because either A: His Attack will be reduced B: They tributes whatever Qlip bounces s*** C. they force you to send monsters you don't quite have D. the 1000 attack barely even helps Trish and Valk get over him, and that's not counting what they have in the pendulum zones. Killer is so deliberately stupid it pisses me off Yeah, Killer is just a winmoar that Qlips can do without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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