Simping For Hina Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 Like the fire, that pun was intentional. Discuss http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/7/chlorine-gas-leak-at-furry-convention-was-intentio/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susie Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 so the anti-furry nazi has started up now? seriously this is just sickening that somebody would take furry hate this far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simping For Hina Posted December 8, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 so the anti-furry nazi has started up now? seriously this is just sickening that somebody would take furry hate this far Apparently. Hate is a strong thing. But attacking a place where Furries could gather, peacefully, is horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makο Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 I totally get it. Furries are weird. Do not want and such. But this is messed up on so, so many levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susie Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 I totally get it. Furries are weird. Do not want and such. But this is messed up on so, so many levels. im a furry and even i admit that there are weird furries out there and i understand why the fandom gets such a bad rep this is an awful thing to do and is just taking things to an unnecessary level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kazooie Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 im a furry and even i admit that there are weird furries out there and i understand why the fandom gets such a bad rep this is an awful thing to do and is just taking things to an unnecessary level there are some pretty weird things in the fandom, there is no denying that. But yeah, this is just... Disgusting really. Urgh, we still have trouble getting past the basic step of not being dicks to people, we are not that great of a species people. ;-; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rapidfire Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 Wtf people need to worry about themselves. I mean what could you possibly achieve by killing a bunch of dweebs in costumes that are already way to hot and exhausting to be in. Just being in one of those must be a struggle, with lack of air, and temperature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted December 8, 2014 Report Share Posted December 8, 2014 This is just unacceptable. Yeah, we know furries have a bad name because of some of what they do, but under no circumstances should this sort of action be merited, whatsoever. It's that time/place for furries to socialize with each other; how would that person [whoever decided to be an ass + set fire] if someone decided to do that at their 4-year old kid's party or something? People need to just grow up and accept others for who they are. I have nothing against furries to be honest; if that's what they want to do, then who am I to question their wishes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Freedom of Speech only goes so far. You can say you don't like Furry Fandom. You can say that you utterly despise the people in said fandom. You can even say that they are a waste of life. But, when you do something like this just because you hate the fandom, then you have overstepped your boundaries on what you can and cannot do and go straight into terrorism. I hope that guy gets sexually assaulted in jail. Seems like a very fitting punishment for one such as him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 Being a furry is weird. Some might say creepy. Others would say pathetic. It comes nowhere close to how creepy and pathetic it is to try to set said people on fire. What kind of weird obsession would you need to have to try to do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 It was a chlorine gas leak, there was no fire and I don't see anything to suggest that the perpetrator (if there was one) wanted to light anyone on fire as opposed to just causing non-lethal nausea and dizziness through chlorine gas poisoning as per what actually happened. I hope that guy gets sexually assaulted in jail. Seems like a very fitting punishment for one such as him. That would do nothing for the health of the victims, would not alleviate the stress of their worried families, would not make the perpetrator any more remorseful, and would contribute to a deep-rooted systemic problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted December 9, 2014 Report Share Posted December 9, 2014 I actually thought about doing this topic myself... It's still outright fucking horrible and uncalled for, as to what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethera Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 People that do things like this are terrible. I don't think furries have done anybody any harm (except make their eyes burn), which is a lot more than I can say for SOME of those obsessions out there. Like an obsession with chlorine. And poisoning others with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 It wasn't even a leak. Like someone set some chlorine in a box and set up a chemical reaction to release it into the air. Chlorine, for those of the unitiated, if inhaled, can liquify your lungs. So yes, there is absolutely zero reason to side against the furries in this case. Unless you think people you find weird deserve to have their lungs liquified, then carry out your day and also go fuck yourself. however i will admit i did find some of the resulting jokes funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Pure chlorine gas is generally not fatal unless at extremely high concentrations. Even when it was weaponized by the Germans in WWI it was ineffective beyond psychological purposes and was quickly replaced by deadlier gasses. It's currently used to train soldiers for gas exposure as it can be treated easily and doesn't cause lasting damage. Humans require a certain degree of chlorine in their system to live and can tolerate a fair amount of exposure to it which is why it's used in swimming pools and such. Unless you think people you find weird deserve to have their lungs liquified, then carry out your day and also go f*** yourself. Did you mean "If" rather than "Unless", or are you for the outlook of liquifying lungs of perceived weird people? Not trying to be a smartass, it's just how the wording looks. For the record, I don't find anyone weird, I'm not for burning anyone, I'm not for liquifying anyone's lungs, and I'm not for causing anyone nausea and dizziness. It appears there was a criminal involved and I wouldn't want for him or her to get away and be able to keep doing this scott-free. That said, sexual assault isn't how criminals should be punished (as Lonk suggested) and I'm not going to think twice about telling that to anyone else who believes it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I wouldn't want this person running around and continuing to do something as heinous as this, either. As for how this guy should be treated once convicted and all, he definitely needs to be isolated from people. Sexual assault nor subjecting him to the same treatment as he almost put the "furries" through isn't the answer, but something is needed to make sure he doesn't do it again. You can hate furries until the day you die, but it's their decision to dress in that kind of clothing + do what they're doing now. Who are you to go out and do this kind of crap to them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Did you mean "If" rather than "Unless", or are you for the outlook of liquifying lungs of perceived weird people? Not trying to be a smartass, it's just how the wording looks. No, I meant unless. Please reread that sentence in the correct tone considering how it ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Still looks like you're telling people to go fuck themselves [i]unless they want to liquify the lungs of people they find weird[/i], which seems counterintuitive but maybe my soul's just not metal enough at this point. Ah well, it wasn't like carrying out my day and fucking myself weren't things I was gonna do anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Still looks like you're telling people to go f*** themselves unless they want to liquify the lungs of people they find weird, which seems counterintuitive but maybe my soul's just not metal enough at this point. Ah well, it wasn't like carrying out my day and f***ing myself weren't things I was gonna do anyway. They say sarcasm doesn't transfer well on the internet, but when a sentence devolves into "go fuck yourself," you'd think someone would notice. :\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
宇佐見 蓮子@C94 Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 I think you guys are being sidetracked here. It's not about a chlorine attack to furries, it's about the chlorine attack itself. It's a terrible thing to do no matter to who and why. Honestly, this could've happened to any group of people, not just furries. This is more than just furry hate, it's an actual act of terrorism. I hope he gets punished properly for his crimes, and the victims get some kind of help. Just my two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaoticjexak Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 toyo is right-this is terrorism *shudders* now I'm ok with flamewars… to an extent obviously, but this REAAAAALLy takes the flame part too seriously. I'm just glad that I'm a stay at home nerd that this will hopefully never happen to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 Furries themselves are an odd fandom, but have they done anything to deserve hate? Have they really incurred anything that deserved this? Who are these raging Nazi-esque people who mirror themselves to something like a gas chamber execution? I can understand some kind of adversity against a group, but when the hate is irrational and people go out of their way to not care about their own decisions, but rather finding chaos in others' actions is simply a waste of their time and actions. To put it, the perpetrator should have the proper punishment they deserve. Agreeing with Toyo here; this could really occur in any other fanbase other than furries, but it's the fact that someone intentionally wanted to cause harm to a lot of other people is awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted December 10, 2014 Report Share Posted December 10, 2014 They say sarcasm doesn't transfer well on the internet, but when a sentence devolves into "go f*** yourself," you'd think someone would notice. :\ It wasn't even a leak. Like someone set some chlorine in a box and set up a chemical reaction to release it into the air. Chlorine, for those of the unitiated, if inhaled, can liquify your lungs. So yes, there is absolutely zero reason to side against the furries in this case. Unless you think people you find weird deserve to have their lungs liquified, then carry out your day and also go f*** yourself. I could see the "then carry out your day" being sarcastic from the get go with a transition to a face-value "go f*** yourself", but it's still addressed towards people who don't want to liquify the lungs of those they think are weird. In the same vein, "If you're a murderer, I think you're just oh-so wonderful and by the way go f*** yourself." would be a more sensible sarcastic comment, as it were, than "If you're not a murderer, I think you're oh-so wonderful and by the way go f*** yourself." The latter would maybe make sense if employed by some intense villain, but barring that I dunno. I suppose "So yes, there is absolutely zero reason to side against the furries in this case." and "Unless you think people you find weird deserve to have their lungs liquified, then carry out your day and also go f*** yourself." were meant to be linked as "So yes, there is absolutely zero reason to side against the furries in this case unless you think people you find weird deserve to have their lungs liquified, then carry out your day and go f*** yourself." where finding perceived weird people deserve to have their lungs liquified is sarcastically listed as a reason to side against the furries, but "unless" at the start of a sentence introduces a conditional clause, especially when paired with a "then" statement that could satisfy the condition in question. Nevertheless, chlorine gas doesn't at all necessarily liquify lungs as I explained here (I'll reiterate myself because I've been told repetition is an excellent rhetorical strategy): Pure chlorine gas is generally not fatal unless at extremely high concentrations. Even when it was weaponized by the Germans in WWI it was ineffective beyond psychological purposes and was quickly replaced by deadlier gasses. It's currently used to train soldiers for gas exposure as it can be treated easily and doesn't cause lasting damage. Humans require a certain degree of chlorine in their system to live and can tolerate a fair amount of exposure to it which is why it's used in swimming pools and such. So perhaps a little more background research is in order before terrifying the "unitiated", whoever they are, and before suggesting that anyone here is "siding against the furries" and wants their lungs liquified. I think you guys are being sidetracked here. It's not about a chlorine attack to furries, it's about the chlorine attack itself. It's a terrible thing to do no matter to who and why. Honestly, this could've happened to any group of people, not just furries. This is more than just furry hate, it's an actual act of terrorism. I hope he gets punished properly for his crimes, and the victims get some kind of help. I can't speak for anyone else but I'll take this opportunity to reiterate my stance on the off-chance that your accusation of being sidetracked extended to me, I think you'll find my thoughts are similar in that I don't condone this type of alleged action being done to anyone. For the record, I don't find anyone weird, I'm not for burning anyone, I'm not for liquifying anyone's lungs, and I'm not for causing anyone nausea and dizziness. It appears there was a criminal involved and I wouldn't want for him or her to get away and be able to keep doing this scott-free. That said, sexual assault isn't how criminals should be punished (as Lonk suggested) and I'm not going to think twice about telling that to anyone else who believes it is. Did people here miss Lonk's comment or just have no opinion whatsoever on his suggestion that sexual assault should be used as a punishment for the alleged crime here? I'd think that'd be something to be opinionated about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted December 11, 2014 Report Share Posted December 11, 2014 Yes, wanting sexual assault as punishment is bad. But the reason most people aren't going on and on about it is because it doesn't really have anything to do with the situation. It's kinda off-topic to focus on it. Plus it's likely just an exaggerated "This person is horrible" kinda thing. Yes, it's overboard but that's all there is to say about that. People are more focused on the issue at hand. Which is how utterly terrible it is to do something like this to anyone. The fact that it happened to a certain more unique group probably caused this to get more attention. But either way, this is a terrible crime to do to any person. Chlorine is very caustic and it must have caused a lot of pain and suffering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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