People need to learn about [Mystical Space Typhoon]

[Blake]

 

This is not an anti-backrow card. An anti-backrow card is lance.

 

This is anti-Pendulum/Floogate.

 

If you're randomly shooting face-down backrow with this, you're bad. Even a lone backrow shouldn't be shot in some matchups.

 

This card doesn't save you from backrow, it removes threats you know exist. At least, when you're using it properly.

 

So don't say "I'm scared of backrow, so I'mma run MST". That's what Lance is for. This is for removing unfair cards that remain on the board. Tenki, Scout, Vanity's, Skill Drain, Covenants, you name it. But not for shooting your opponent's 4 card backrow, where this is honestly useless.

[Progenitor]

I first thought this was gonna be a "MST doesn't negate" thread.

 

But you are completely correct.  MST is best used in this format to hit problem cards you know are there.

 

If you wanna guess hit your opponent's backrow and not use MST that way, run Night Beam or Galaxy Cyclone instead.  Otherwise it's just a plain waste of an MST, especially if you hit something you don't care about.

 

If you are playing any of those specifically to stop backrow that could stop your combo, then run Lance or Anti-Magic Arrow (when it comes out) instead.  Why deal with a threat when you can just ignore it?

[Toffee.]

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[ihop]

Actually I think MST is pushing its way back into the main deck, at least for some decks. Nekroz aren't quite as dominant a deck as they used to be and it's really good against other top decks like Tellars and Qliphorts (honestly, it's one of the best, if not the best, cards against both). Even against Nekroz it's not actually awful anymore because some of the Nekroz are Scolding builds which MST actually hurts, as well as a lot of them maining Vanity's which, while still a rare chance of resolving, it a possibility. Especially in a deck like Nekroz I'd main MST right now because it's essential against Mistake Shaddoll, so good against Tellars and Qliphort that it's worth maining and acts as a quasi-Djinn Out in certain mirror matches.

 

I do agree with the rest of your points though, it's definitely an out to floodgates, scales and continous support cards (with a few exceptions like, as I mentioned, Scolding in the Nekroz mirror)

[(GigaDrillBreaker)]

During vanity's formats, I ran 2-3 mst I'm a lot of decks to snipe it out in response. Always caught opponent off guard.

[Slinky]

with Galaxy Cyclone coming soon, that logic is still going to be upheld, because Galaxy Cyclone really can't do anything to a floodgate unless you actually hit it while it's facedown, or it's in the grave.

[Peridank]

The problem is neither Night Beam nor Galaxy can pop face-ups while only MST can. And I have never been big on running a huge amount of Back Row revovel. It's needed ya.... and it's good. But I have always ran about 2 MST. I don't like using up 4 slots in my deck for it at all. Especially when I limit it to certain removal. Blind MST never has really done me wrong but I won't do it willy nilly. Sue me...

[Darj]

I learned this the hard way in a duel vs. DWs (years back when they were among the best decks), where I spent my available MSTs only for the opponent to activate Skill Drain afterwards.

 

By the way:

If you're randomly shooting face-down backrow with this, you're bad. Even a lone backrow shouldn't be shot in some matchups.

 

Could you elaborate a bit more on this? Because I really don't see how it makes you a bad player to spend a MST on an opponent single backrow to remove the threat or bluff and proceed to make your plays a bit more safely. Of course, as you point out, it depends on the matchup but... just to get a better idea, could you mention a couple examples of those matchups?

[Blake]

I learned this the hard way in a duel vs. DWs (years back when they were among the best decks), where I spent my available MSTs only for the opponent to activate Skill Drain afterwards.

 

By the way:

 

Could you elaborate a bit more on this? Because I really don't see how it makes you a bad player to spend a MST on an opponent single backrow to remove the threat or bluff and proceed to make your plays a bit more safely. Of course, as you point out, it depends on the matchup but... just to get a better idea, could you mention a couple examples of those matchups?

Reckless Greed

Abyss-sphere

Artifact Sanctum

ANY set card while you control a monster/card

etc.

 

i mean really, if you blind shto a backrow and get Ring of Destructioned, you're going to hate it.

[(GigaDrillBreaker)]

MST into single backrow is justifiable if you are planning to push for game

[Darj]

Reckless Greed

Abyss-sphere

Artifact Sanctum

ANY set card while you control a monster/card

etc.

 

i mean really, if you blind shto a backrow and get Ring of Destructioned, you're going to hate it.

 

Thank you.

I did think of Reckless Greed and decks that rarely run removal backrow, but forgot about Sanctum.

And it is more clear now, especially the last example: if you have nothing to lose then yeah, blind MSTing even a single backrow should be fine, but when you do have something to lose, better to think twice.

[VCR_CAT]

..eehhhh MST against a single or two set card(s) is often times my best weapon to stop my opponent from using MST against my own field/continuous spell that I play after, and against cards like Solemn Warning that would otherwise ruin my day. Granted, I also use other cards that help fill in that hole of popping pendulums during my opponent's turn, and most major floodgates are now limited anyways, so it's possible to be a little more frivolous with your MST's now.

[Hexanort]

randomly shooting opponent line of backrow that is more than your msts is indeed bad.....but still if i'm going for game or meaningful push/setup, i'd rather remove as many risk as possible first before starting, lance can protect 1 monster, but some backrow can hit multiple monster, so i'd rather remove them first

 

trap stun works better, if your action doesnt require trap, but still msts are more versatile as it good at stopping continuous/fields/pendulums

mandatory @3 at my every deck

[(GigaDrillBreaker)]

As said, Lance is a wonderful answer to things like Ring of Destruction, but it ain't got shit on Mirror Force and Storming Mirror Force. I really only want to hit backrow with MST if I am going in for an OTK.