Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 This card cannot be Special Summoned. This card returns to itsowner's hand during the End Phase of the turn it is Normal Summonedor flipped face-up. When this card inflicts Battle Damage to your opponent, they skip their next Draw Phase. Card is sheet. We're at an age where the major decks don't even need to draw and can utilize the grave as a second hand. Who the funk is going to blow their normal summon to summon this powercreeped to hell card? To 3. No Errata. Grow a pair damn it Konami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 How about to zero?It's already there? Sounds good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 How about to zero?It's already there? Sounds good.Give me one good reason why it should be at zero. This is cyber stein all over. Creeped card that has old scare attached to it. I will bite you if you tell me Norales + Plaugespread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarlandChaos Posted June 18, 2015 Report Share Posted June 18, 2015 How about to zero?It's already there? Sounds good. Give me one good reason why it should be at zero. This is cyber stein all over. Creeped card that has old scare attached to it. I will bite you if you tell me Norales + Plaugespread*grabs popcorn* In all seriousness, though, yeah, Winter's right. This card really isn't too much of a deal nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zauls Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 I have thought this for quite some time. People just need to realize it isn't 2004 any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 It's trash nowadays. Too slow, too little of a payoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 I have a monster you can't answer, whatever it may be.Now I play Yata Garasu.I win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarlandChaos Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 I have a monster you can't answer, whatever it may be.Now I play Yata Garasu.I win.Please, tell us what said monster is. I funking dare you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Please, tell us what said monster is. I f***ing dare you. Anything you can't immediately answer.It could be as weak as Djinn Relinquished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarlandChaos Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Anything you can't immediately answer.It could be as weak as Djinn Relinquished.Be. Spe. Ci. Fic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Anything you can't immediately answer.It could be as weak as Djinn Relinquished.Opening hand exists and we're in an era where every deck runs a fuckton of draw/search cards. It's...not exactly hard to get out of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 At best. I see Yosenju getting a cool new toy at best. Divine Wind+ Yata get the pendulum Yosenju...that's literally it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarlandChaos Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Opening hand exists and we're in an era where every deck runs a fuckton of draw/search cards. It's...not exactly hard to get out of that. Exactly. And you people are still jabroniing about losing a Draw Phase? For funk's sake, folks. CARDS LIKE JAR OF GREED AND POT OF DUALITY EXIST. USE THEM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Does no one understand what I'm saying here? Jesus... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Does no one understand what I'm saying here? Jesus...No because you're being incredibly vague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarlandChaos Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Does no one understand what I'm saying here? Jesus... No. No because you're being incredibly vague.If you want us to have ANY idea why the funk this card should be banned, follow Klavier and my advice and STATE. SPECIFIC. SET-UPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Be. Spe. Ci. Fic.he's saying that as long as he has any monster, if you can't get rid of said monster and can't get over it then yata-garasu makes you auto-lose honestly i say leave it banned, why unban it and allow for potential dumb sheet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 It might not be as big as a deal as it was before, but it doesn't bring anything positive to the game. There's no need for it to return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLG Klavier Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Oh, don't get me wrong. I didn't say to unban it. I just said it's pretty sheet nowadays. Yeah, in an incredibly specific scenario, it's broke. But realize that without CED around, that scenario has to happen naturally, and that's quite unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 It give stun a decent chance. It won't cause sheet, because it's funking slow. If you have a huge ass beater and your opp has no answers now, chances are he ain't gonna top one with the way said beaters are made these days. If you have CDI face up, and you attack with Yata, that's pissing in the wind, it makes no difference what they top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 To be honest the problems with Yata are the actual problems, not yata. You could make up something like the Djinn lock being something super good for it to synergize with, but Yata isn't the problem in that scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarlandChaos Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Oh, don't get me wrong. I didn't say to unban it. I just said it's pretty sheet nowadays. Yeah, in an incredibly specific scenario, it's broke. But realize that without CED around, that scenario has to happen naturally, and that's quite unlikely. It give stun a decent chance. It won't cause sheet, because it's funking slow. If you have a huge ass beater and your opp has no answers now, chances are he ain't gonna top one with the way said beaters are made these days. If you have CDI face up, and you attack with Yata, that's pissing in the wind, it makes no difference what they topI couldn't have said it any better than these two. If you want this thing to cause havoc, you need something specific as funk, and otherwise, it's really, really slow and bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 Exactly. And you people are still b****ing about losing a Draw Phase? For f***'s sake, folks. CARDS LIKE JAR OF GREED AND POT OF DUALITY EXIST. USE THEM.js jar of greed sucks and 99% of the time duality is used upon drawing it if you even run it at all, which is fairly rare in the current meta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarlandChaos Posted June 19, 2015 Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 js jar of greed sucks and 99% of the time duality is used upon drawing it if you even run it at all, which is fairly rare in the current metaI'm fully aware of that. I was just providing examples, and those were the first things that popped into my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted June 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2015 The only way Yata will be a "problem" is if Divine Wind goes to 3 and Yosenju get access to this card. That would be a pain, but a pain in the same way HAT (TCG) or SAT (OCG) was, aka, annoying to play against, but skillful to play against Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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