ihop Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Probably the single most broken card to come out since Mistake. discuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodfusion Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 I love this card so much. In the context of an Insect-Type deck it is really good and combos well with Naturia Sacred Tree, Insect Imitation etc. Along with annoying Ritual and Fusion decks. Just wondering, what's so broken about it? Is it just that it searches Maxx "C"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted October 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Just wondering, what's so broken about it? Is it just that it searches Maxx "C"? The Macro effect means it's almost an autowin against decks like Shaddoll if they activate a fusion, because they rely on the things they fuse with hitting the grave to make fusing worth it at all. Even if you just discarded it to Macro them for a turn it'd be a blowout, but the fact that you actually get a decent bit of fodder and/or a Maxx "C" out of it is just icing on the cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 It has everything going for it. Handtrap, level 4, floats into Maxx C of all things, etc. Yeah, the floodgate effect win games on its own. Scariest sidedeck card atm tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 This ****s on Infernoids when Reasoning and Monster Gate are used too, which sucks for me, because I like playing Infernoids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Wonder if anyone of you will care about this after you fix your tunnel vision about Nekroz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Wonder if anyone of you will care about this after you fix your tunnel vision about Nekroz Considering I pointed out how this harms Infernoids, and another guy pointed out how this harms Shaddolls, methinks some of us will care about this regardless of what happens to Nekroz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Wonder if anyone of you will care about this after you fix your tunnel vision about Nekroz Wonder if you will care of making comments like this after you fix your tunnel vision about OCG~ But really this card is really powerful right now. Once nekroz dies it'll be less used of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Wonder if you will care of making comments like this after you fix your tunnel vision about OCG~ But really this card is really powerful right now. Once nekroz dies it'll be less used of course.That's like hyping Maxx "C" during Ruler format. Hit the problem deck, and these oddities vanish....it has nothing to do with OCG except maybe that they stopped money grubbing and actually put Nekroz down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted October 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 That's like hyping Maxx "C" during Ruler format. What? Maxx "C" has been amazing over and over again, it's been standard in at least the side for way over half the time it's been released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 What? Maxx "C" has been amazing over and over again, it's been standard in at least the side for way over half the time it's been released.And is Maxx "C" broken or are the deck too damn ss spammy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 And is Maxx "C" broken or are the deck too damn ss spammyNobody said Maxx "C" is broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted October 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 And is Maxx "C" broken or are the deck too damn ss spammy TEW man, we have such wildly different views on the game that we're simply never going to agree on this sort of thing. I actually would say Maxx "C" is broken rather than that decks are too ss spammy, and I know you'd say the complete opposite. I'm not going to carry on arguing about this because we're just never going to get anywhere - let's actually discuss the card and how good it currently is and stay away from our fundamental views on the game. edit: For the record, I don't think Maxx "C" is broken, I just agree with that statement more than the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 TEW man, we have such wildly different views on the game that we're simply never going to agree on this sort of thing. I actually would say Maxx "C" is broken rather than that decks are too ss spammy, and I know you'd say the complete opposite. I'm not going to carry on arguing about this because we're just never going to get anywhere - let's actually discuss the card and how good it currently is and stay away from our fundamental views on the game. edit: For the record, I don't think Maxx "C" is broken, I just agree with that statement more than the other.Sure! What do you think is good about this card? Personally I like the lv 4 nature and the maxx "C" add over the macro Nobody said Maxx "C" is broken. Sub in Problem for Broken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted October 11, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Specifically against Nekroz I'd say it's actually forced people to keep Maxx "C" in against them when they probably wouldn't otherwise. Maxx "C" against Nekroz is normally just a 1 for 1 and rarely much more, although admittedly you are almost guaranteed to get the 1 for 1. In such matchups I see the Maxx "C" as just being gravy on top of the Macro effect (and yes, the fact that it's a level 4 is really good too). Shaddoll, which this is by far the best against is a little weaker to Maxx "C" so it not only gains more benefits from the Macro effect but also from the Maxx "C" (and, because it's level 4, more value from the ability to make Dweller as well). There's actually a really wide range of effects that this card has on matchups. You have wildly varying levels of how easy it is to summon, from Nekroz where it's almost guaranteed to Infernoid where it's not something to take for granted, wildly varying levels of how good the Macro effect is, from Nekroz where it's a little nuisance especially if you chain it to Kaleidoscope, to Shaddoll where it's almost an instawin, and wildly varying levels of how good the Maxx "C" is, from Nekroz where it's decent but not amazing to something like Infernoid where you can really pressurise them with Maxx "C". It's a very interesting card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Why don't we just Limit Maxx "C"?I'm pretty sure the fact that this card is basically always going to funk stuff up, while searching a potential draw engine, is basically why it's that much of a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Don't really think this is broken or anything, it's just really really good in this format. I have trouble thinking of another format that this could have made such an impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Don't really think this is broken or anything, it's just really really good in this format. I have trouble thinking of another format that this could have made such an impact.Spellbooks? Older formats with Dimension Fusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polocatfan Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 TEW man, we have such wildly different views on the game that we're simply never going to agree on this sort of thing. I actually would say Maxx "C" is broken rather than that decks are too ss spammy, and I know you'd say the complete opposite. I'm not going to carry on arguing about this because we're just never going to get anywhere - let's actually discuss the card and how good it currently is and stay away from our fundamental views on the game. edit: For the record, I don't think Maxx "C" is broken, I just agree with that statement more than the other. Dude. Maxx "C" can cause you to deck out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 Dude. Maxx "C" can cause you to deck out. I'm not exactly sure of what you're trying to prove here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polocatfan Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 I'm not exactly sure of what you're trying to prove here.I'm trying to prove Maxx "C" isn't broken and is just a staple. Am I the only one who likes Maxx "C"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 I'm not exactly sure of what you're trying to prove here.I think he's trying to prove that he's a shitposter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 I'm trying to prove Maxx "C" isn't broken and is just a staple. Am I the only one who likes Maxx "C"? The fact it can deck you out is completely irrelevant because there are so few cases where that happens and it's generally against decks you probably shouldn't drop Maxx on anyway. Maxx C is objectively pretty stupid in a game so centric about special summoning, but it punishes the state of absolute board vomit, so I'm just going to say it's stupid but tolerably so. Retaliating C is dumb as hell, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polocatfan Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 I think he's trying to prove that he's a shitposter.I'm just trying to converse but ok. I'll leave everyone alone... :\ Sorry I have controversial opinions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted October 11, 2015 Report Share Posted October 11, 2015 I'm just trying to converse but ok. I'll leave everyone alone... :\ Sorry I have controversial opinions. Just for reference, TCG as a section is quite clear cut and doesn't welcome people who don't do their research prior. I don't condone the mass mobbing of certain members that occasionally occurs here, but I am of the belief you should either post rationally and actually back up your point with consistency and evidence of your claims, rather than claiming the irrelevant makes a card less broken than it actually may or may not be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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