Blake Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 Given that Liberating Ariadne was revealed last night, I keep going back to her, as she's the most interesting card in the set. And this got me thinking. You can easily run 3x Notice 1x Warning and get 2 searchers out of her copies. But, especially depending on how much impact she has (unless Sorcerer is imported in BOSH, likely small amounts), I keep thinking of other cards she can find. Chaos Trap HoleBlack Horn of HeavenDebunkRetortCursed Seal/Spell Vanishing (eeh)Solemn ScoldingThe Selection or Horn of Heaven (sorta, latter for Pendulum as a generic NS/SS answer)few other more niche things And these 2. So, hypothetically speaking, which would you run in a format where you fully expect to see Ariadne more often than not, if either? I have a personal stance, but I'm curious what this can generate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 If Aria is a 'card of the format', then wouldn't Decks that are dependant on Spells be a little iffy, if only because of the random Cursed Seal that could pop up, and ultimatly funk them over?I'm partially guessing, but still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catman25 Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 I feel like if everyone's playing her/a heavy Counter Trap lineup, do you want to send stuff back to the deck? But then again, are you using her to primarily to search or not pay cost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 Wiretap has the potential to make them draw a terrible card for their situation later. Seems good to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Fire Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 i think that since 7 tools becomes costless, i'd rather use it. while yes it could give them a terrible draw later, if it's like a solemn or something, you just want to get rid of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 I like Seven Tools of the Bandit better, personally.The "shuffle into the Deck" part of Wiretap can be useful but if you have no choice but to return, let's say, a Vanity, then you will still worry about it during the duel.Besides, 1000 LP isn't exactly a huge cost. However, I wouldn't take full advantage of the "no cost" effect of Ariadne because once they get rid of it, you could be stuck with some pretty heavy costs if you are not careful during deck-building. Small LP costs like this can be added in without too much thought, and it is neat if they can be skipped, but discard costs would be more far and in-between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexanort Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 i would choose wiretap, since its costless even without adriane, and since some trap has a secondary effect in grave and can become recycle fodder, generally shuffling it to deck should be better than sending it to grave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darj Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 I'm leaning towards Seven Tools. In the past I would go for Wiretap, but that was more because Sanctum was around. But nowadays that card is barely played, if at all, in the competitive environment, plus with Ariadne you can skip the LP cost; not to mention that they could potentially pick the card back with Trap searchers. And if Ariadne end up becoming a thing, spinning Counter Traps back wouldn't be desirable, as they can pick it back with Ariadne, or at least contribute to having 3 Counter Trap in the Deck to make its effect live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 Seven tools is better against Vanity's and other Counter-Based decks; Wiretap is pretty much always better otherwise. 7 Tools in Side, Wiretap Mained, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted October 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 Guess I'll weigh in, now that this hasn't been replied to in, going on, 12 hours. I definitely say Seven Tools. If Ariadne exists, not to mention Vanity's, shuffling Counter Traps back into the deck just mkes them able to plus harder on you. The chances of them drawing the counter trap naturally aren't that high, but the chance of setting Ariadne off IS high. Seven Tools doesn't make Ariadne more live, limiting her amount of finding sheet to be more-or-less equal to yours, and Wiretap gives the opposing player an edge. Especially if they didn't even pay the cost for the Solemns. The argument for Wiretap IS there, but I feel like you're playing too much into Ariadne, in this hypothetical situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted October 16, 2015 Report Share Posted October 16, 2015 Wiretap in TCG where the trap proliferation is smaller You shuffle back a BTH in OCG, they have 3 more. It's not a good idea that side of the ocean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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