ems97 Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Unaffected by your opponent's card effects. You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; negate the effects of all face-up cards your opponent currently controls until the end of this turn, then allmonsters your opponent controls lose 1000 ATK. During the End Phase, if this card was Xyz Summoned by using a "Raidraptor" Xyz Monster as a Material this turn: Activate 1 of these effects.● If your opponent controls a monster: All monsters your opponent controls lose 1000 ATK. ● If your opponent controls no monsters: Inflict 1000 damage to your opponent. Rank 10 / DARK / 3500 ATK / ???? DEF Sadly no image Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 ohai neo granzon Would be infinitely better if it get a better summoning animation and attack animation. Revo and Sat's reveal carry more weight than this. Hopefully it'll appear again soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aman Indra Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Well, atleast this can be a unaffected wall if nothing more. I expected it to nuke field or extra deck or something, not 1000 minus from monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Since the TC didn't put up its stats, it's a Rank 10 with 3500 ATK, just so you guys know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aman Indra Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Since the TC didn't put up its stats, it's a Rank 10 with 3500 ATK, just so you guys know.Still a bit dissapointed with effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Still a bit disappointed with effects.I'm not, but I'm not gonna lose sleep over it tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Since the TC didn't put up its stats, it's a Rank 10 with 3500 ATK, just so you guys know.Next towers? Immune to card effects, nigh immune to battle destruction(except utopia lightning). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aman Indra Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Next towers? Immune to card effects, nigh immune to battle destruction(except utopia lightning).There is a card above both, he goes by the name of Great Magnus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 expect this to turn into Slifer/Osiris with quickplay fieldwide negation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Next Towers? Immune to card effects, nigh immune to battle destruction (except Utopia the Lightning)Well if anything, we won't be getting this for a while, but atm we have Great Magnus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeartic Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 How is this effect disappointing. We have dora which has the same thing but has to detach. This thing can't be killed by card effects period. It also can weaken monsters. This effect is honestly perfect. People are asking for too much when this is pretty much magnus/towers AND it's SKILL DRAIN LOL. HOW IS THIS DISAPPOINTING? Double death blaze into this and there you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 How is this effect disappointing. We have dora which has the same thing but has to detach. This thing can't be killed by card effects period. It also can weaken monsters. This effect is honestly perfect. People are asking for too much when this is pretty much magnus/towers AND it's SKILL DRAIN LOL. HOW IS THIS DISAPPOINTING? Double death blaze into this and there you go.This, honestly. A 3500 beater with blanket immunity, plus a couple of really nice effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanashimi Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Guys . . . his effect already good, i mean "card effect immunity"+"face-up mass negation"+"lower ATK" or "1K burn". Already said, more or less it's another Tower . . . So unaffected become a thing eh? Summoned Exodia, Great Magnus, and this . . . . Kaiju.dek (๑′ᴗ‵๑)I Lᵒᵛᵉᵧₒᵤ♥ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 How is this effect disappointing. We have dora which has the same thing but has to detach. This thing can't be killed by card effects period. It also can weaken monsters. This effect is honestly perfect. People are asking for too much when this is pretty much magnus/towers AND it's SKILL DRAIN LOL. HOW IS THIS DISAPPOINTING? Double death blaze into this and there you go.Unless his effect is really spell speed 1, however considering this would rather follow the trend of revolution falcon and satellite cannon falcon he would propably be buffed in some way.Though it is quite strange that shun does not use satellite before summoning this ... then he would have won that turn ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeartic Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Unless his effect is really spell speed 1, however considering this would rather follow the trend of revolution falcon and satellite cannon falcon he would propably be buffed in some way.Though it is quite strange that shun does not use satellite before summoning this ... then he would have won that turn ...Rakiri was unaffected by card effects because of that equip spell. (so he couldn't reduce the attack)Shun was pretty much screwed at that point regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Rakiri was unaffected by card effects because of that equip spell. (so he couldn't reduce the attack)Shun was pretty much screwed at that point regardless.Oh thought it would have only prevented destructions ... oh well, still it seems likely this card will follow the trend of buffed raid raptor xyzs (or nerfed in some regards at the same time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Still a bit dissapointed with effects. What the **** do you want? Did you want this to be a Vennominaga that auto-wins at the end of the turn it's Summoned? What exactly is it that doesn't disappoint you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lizardonx Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 This card's animation was dissapointing. Not a single blown up building or dueling track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 This card's animation was dissapointing. Not a single blown up building or dueling track. Yeah, they really skimped on its debut, especially when compared to how they introduced Revolution Falcon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aman Indra Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 What the **** do you want? Did you want this to be a Vennominaga that auto-wins at the end of the turn it's Summoned? What exactly is it that doesn't disappoint you?dude, calm down i did not rant, so calm your damn tits down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 This card could be something.... But it forces Raptor into being something stupid.So.... Whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeartic Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 dude, calm down i did not rant, so calm your damn tits down.I just don't see how you're dissapointed with a card that pretty much is what raptors want. Immune to any card effects that is a walking skill drain. Animation wise in the attack department it was a little dissapointing (but shun lost so they're probably saving the REAL attack for whenever shun wins with it). But effect wise it's perfect and with skip force it's very easy to get to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexanort Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 this is what the game need, more effect immune monster so that battles and/or attack boost card can be relevantit has neo-galaxy effect and also reduce attack by 1000, which is a nice addition overall very nice card, hope it will retain the immunity effect irl and have generic material so its usable outside RR(3 lv 10 or 3 lv 10 DARK would be good enough) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Partangle the Candle Jangler Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 These higher ranked Raidraptors are really getting away from the deck, I mean Satellite Cannon was difficult enough but this is almost impossible to make in any practical way because Double Death Force turned out fairly crap. How do you actually ever summon this? The most you can rank up anything by is 2 and that's using Astral Force which personally I'm not keen on in the deck, or now Skip Force which is essentially the same thing, but not important to this. So to start you're going to be needing at least 2 RUMs. That presumes you start from the rank 6 Revolution Falcon which would require 2 Mimicry Lanius on the board, and even achieving this would require the use of RR Call unless you're reviving from the graveyard (but that in itself is unlikely because you're always banishing Mimicrys once they hit the grave anyway), and another Raptor but Vanishing is basically the only way you'd have gotten 2 Mimicry on the board so that's there. You then use the 3 to make Revolution Falcon, who doesn't even get his Volcasaurus effect when summoned properly so can't do anything, and is solely there for you to RUM into Satellite Cannon. If your opponent had any relevant backrow they would likely have used it at this point but if they didn't you get to blow that up so yay. And then you RUM once more to make this. Again, this only works with Astral Force or the new Skip Force which is basically the same thing since all the other RR themed rank-ups (that use monsters on the field already as the base) only go in 1s. That's essentially a 6 card combo that leaves you with nothing but this and requires a perfect hand which includes 2 RUMs that you can't search (unless you're using Raid Force whose search ability can only be used by having it in the grave along with another RR card anyway) and there's no way to dump and which have a tendency to be dead because you always want your Force Strix out for 2 turns for the 2 searches and unless your opponent has something which you know will kill it on their turn you don't want to skip straight to Revolution Falcon, especially with Blaze being arguably better anyway. Soul Shave Force is an absolutely exquisite card, but in most cases Cydra Infinity is going to do more for you than Revolution Falcon, and King Kali Yuga is going to do more for you than Satellite Cannon Falcon, but even the possibility of 8s requires a Revolution Falcon in the grave and since summoning it is generally an OTK pushing play, that in itself relies on you failing to execute said play, and if that happens you will likely lose anyway. If you do manage to not die and your opponent has nothing to stop your Soul Shave to make an 8, the choice between going for Kali Yuga in an attempt to reassert some element of control and maybe swing the game, or making Satellite Cannon as set up for a possible second Soul Shave to use it to make this at a later time, makes itself. Now the absolutely easiest way to make this quickly would be using Double Death Force, but that card is just not good. In order to pull it off in terms of summoning this you need to get out Blaze Falcon and then have it die by battle, which is going to mean suiciding it off an opponent's monster which it could kill via either of its effects regardless of what it is for an overall more favourable play, or your opponent actually attacking over it without removing your set Death Force in some way. Either way to summon Blaze you need Vanishing>>>Mimicry and Fuzzy, then the Double Death in hand. With DD and all the monsters being searchable setting this up is not very difficult but the reliance on battle destruction is detrimental. Still, making a Blaze and ramming it then using Double Death to make Ultimate Falcon in M2 is arguably the best way to do it, but it still makes it with just the one material and presuming the effect is spell speed 1 as the OP would suggest that blanket negation effect is reduced in its utility since you can only do it the once. I know that this post is really just a ramble and I've written it over about half an hour on and off so I have probably contradicted myself at some point but the main thing I want to say from it all is that Raidraptors are getting these high ranked monsters that the deck cannot access without including worse cards and making sub-optimal plays like Blaze>>>DD>>>Ultimate without having any back-up if it fails while it works far better as is with the churning out rank 4s and accumulating such massive advantage while disrupting the opponent with Gusts and Icarus Atacks that this card, fantastic as it is, is far more viable and usable in Trains and will remain that way unless we get something ridiculous that summons this using Xyz in the Extra as materials or something. Alright just had a re-read of this, there are some strange comma placements in there and it's difficult to follow in a few places, will try sort it more cohesively tomorrow when I'm more awake and aware. 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Captain Kirk Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 These higher ranked Raidraptors are really getting away from the deck, I mean Satellite Cannon was difficult enough but this is almost impossible to make in any practical way because Double Death Force turned out fairly crap. How do you actually ever summon this? The most you can rank up anything by is 2 and that's using Astral Force which personally I'm not keen on in the deck, or now Skip Force which is essentially the same thing, but not important to this. So to start you're going to be needing at least 2 RUMs. That presumes you start from the rank 6 Revolution Falcon which would require 2 Mimicry Lanius on the board, and even achieving this would require the use of RR Call unless you're reviving from the graveyard (but that in itself is unlikely because you're always banishing Mimicrys once they hit the grave anyway), and another Raptor but Vanishing is basically the only way you'd have gotten 2 Mimicry on the board so that's there. You then use the 3 to make Revolution Falcon, who doesn't even get his Volcasaurus effect when summoned properly so can't do anything, and is solely there for you to RUM into Satellite Cannon. If your opponent had any relevant backrow they would likely have used it at this point but if they didn't you get to blow that up so yay. And then you RUM once more to make this. Again, this only works with Astral Force or the new Skip Force which is basically the same thing since all the other RR themed rank-ups (that use monsters on the field already as the base) only go in 1s. That's essentially a 6 card combo that leaves you with nothing but this and requires a perfect hand which includes 2 RUMs that you can't search (unless you're using Raid Force whose search ability can only be used by having it in the grave along with another RR card anyway) and there's no way to dump and which have a tendency to be dead because you always want your Force Strix out for 2 turns for the 2 searches and unless your opponent has something which you know will kill it on their turn you don't want to skip straight to Revolution Falcon, especially with Blaze being arguably better anyway. Soul Shave Force is an absolutely exquisite card, but in most cases Cydra Infinity is going to do more for you than Revolution Falcon, and King Kali Yuga is going to do more for you than Satellite Cannon Falcon, but even the possibility of 8s requires a Revolution Falcon in the grave and since summoning it is generally an OTK pushing play, that in itself relies on you failing to execute said play, and if that happens you will likely lose anyway. If you do manage to not die and your opponent has nothing to stop your Soul Shave to make an 8, the choice between going for Kali Yuga in an attempt to reassert some element of control and maybe swing the game, or making Satellite Cannon as set up for a possible second Soul Shave to use it to make this at a later time, makes itself. Now the absolutely easiest way to make this quickly would be using Double Death Force, but that card is just not good. In order to pull it off in terms of summoning this you need to get out Blaze Falcon and then have it die by battle, which is going to mean suiciding it off an opponent's monster which it could kill via either of its effects regardless of what it is for an overall more favourable play, or your opponent actually attacking over it without removing your set Death Force in some way. Either way to summon Blaze you need Vanishing>>>Mimicry and Fuzzy, then the Double Death in hand. With DD and all the monsters being searchable setting this up is not very difficult but the reliance on battle destruction is detrimental. Still, making a Blaze and ramming it then using Double Death to make Ultimate Falcon in M2 is arguably the best way to do it, but it still makes it with just the one material and presuming the effect is spell speed 1 as the OP would suggest that blanket negation effect is reduced in its utility since you can only do it the once. I know that this post is really just a ramble and I've written it over about half an hour on and off so I have probably contradicted myself at some point but the main thing I want to say from it all is that Raidraptors are getting these high ranked monsters that the deck cannot access without including worse cards and making sub-optimal plays like Blaze>>>DD>>>Ultimate without having any back-up if it fails while it works far better as is with the churning out rank 4s and accumulating such massive advantage while disrupting the opponent with Gusts and Icarus Atacks that this card, fantastic as it is, is far more viable and usable in Trains and will remain that way unless we get something ridiculous that summons this using Xyz in the Extra as materials or something. Alright just had a re-read of this, there are some strange comma placements in there and it's difficult to follow in a few places, will try sort it more cohesively tomorrow when I'm more awake and aware.you make it with Skip Force, obviously, which, much like Soul-Shave was released at the same time as Sattelite Cannon, will be released at the same time as this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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