Death Penalty

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

One of the more barbaric aspect to the United State, did you know:

 

At least 1 in 25 people sentenced to the death penalty in the U.S. are innocent?

 

or that

 

Death penalty trials are 20 times more expensive than trials seeking a sentence of life in prison without parole?

 

For such a moralistic state, I don't people realize how many of our own we kill. Honestly just sad business that as a society we are so intent on punishment rather than fixture 

[Partangle the Candle Jangler]

Have you a source for those 2 stats? Would like to see them.

 

I'm personally not opposed to the death penalty, we've not had it for a long while before I was even born but I would not object to its reintroduction. Certain people offer nothing to the world and tax money funding their lives in prison is nonsensical.

 

And that last point you make there, by the time people are seeking the death penalty the crime has been committed, you can't fix anything within the case at that point. Yes overall societal betterment to prevent the situation from arising at all is something to aim for but it's not as if crime is being encouraged at the moment. Went a bit off where it was meant to go there.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

http://www.newsweek.com/one-25-executed-us-innocent-study-claims-248889

 

http://www.deathpenalty.org/section.php?id=13

 

You do realize it's more expensive to kill someone than to keep them alive?

 

Honestly this is the main reason I can't bring myself to vote republican. I am not above taking life, but it has to be a clear advantage and taking the life of the innocent should not be done with so much vigor...funking Texas

[Halubaris Maphotika]

http://www.newsweek.com/one-25-executed-us-innocent-study-claims-248889

 

http://www.deathpenalty.org/section.php?id=13

 

You do realize it's more expensive to kill someone than to keep them alive?

 

Honestly this is the main reason I can't bring myself to vote republican. I am not above taking life, but it has to be a clear advantage and taking the life of the innocent should not be done with so much vigor...f***ing Texas

I couldn't f*cking agree more.

 

I am against the Death Penalty in every aspect. No matter what atrocities they have committed, we have no right to kill them. Imprisoning them for life? Fine. No killing however. It is much more expensive to kill them then keep them interned.

[Flash Flyer - Sakura]

Hawai'i doesn't have the death penalty (and it wasn't around since the late 1940s due to racial factors), so I haven't had to grow up with that.

Those types of things would be commuted to life in prison sentences without parole.

 

The federal system does have capital punishment however (which overrules our life without parole stuff), but that only happened once as far as I remember (and that was last year); guy wasn't killed, but was sent to the mainland for lifelong incarceration.

 

For the most part, I am opposed to it because it translates into publicized murder.

 

Let's say if some guy goes to prison from massacring a group of people, and is then ordered to be killed; the government is really no better because they too are killing someone but under the law, it's legal.

 

As Winter mentioned, there is the chance that innocent people can be wrongly executed, and while it's a small chance, it does happen. If their name is cleared sometime later, then it's too late because they're already dead. If they were in prison, at least they could be let alone (albeit you'd have to pay them substantial compensation for wrongful imprisonment).

 

That in mind, some pharmaceutical companies in Europe stopped selling drugs that get used in capital punishment because they oppose their products being used to kill people.

 

Though, I know that some people don't care if you send them to prison for life so they're haunted about what atrocities they did to warrant it (because lack of conscience/remorse). I'll bring up terrorists because they aren't afraid to die for whatever they did before. Leave them in prison, eventually we'll forget about them. Kill them on the spot, they get hailed as a savior for causing chaos.

 

It's a complicated thing, but I am pretty much against capital punishment overall.

[(GigaDrillBreaker)]

When Washington State's governor, Jay Inslee, came into office, one of the first things he did was start tabling tons of death penalty trials, so that the executions could not take place.

 

I remember there was a family of a boy who had been killed, telling a reporter how the only way to make things right was to have the murderer put to death...

 

But that wouldn't make anything 'right'. The boy would still be dead. 

 

This cycle of hatred... It isn't something I understand. I probably will, eventually, but I like myself better that I don't.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

 I probably will

You can't understand logic that does not exist

[(GigaDrillBreaker)]

You can't understand logic that does not exist

Hatred isn't a logical feeling. 

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Hatred isn't a logical feeling. 

no, but it is a human one

[LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow]

The idea we kill people legally when there's always been doubts of the validity of trials always disturbed me. Not to mention life in prison is a better punishment than death. So it doesn't even make sense in a "PUNISH THEM" sense.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

The idea we kill people legally when there's always been doubts of the validity of trials always disturbed me. Not to mention life in prison is a better punishment than death. So it doesn't even make sense in a "PUNISH THEM" sense.

The power of the rightwing dimwits is strong....don't question it

[Halubaris Maphotika]

The power of the rightwing dimwits is strong....don't question it

 I blame Texas. Just like I blame them for puberty and the Ice-Age.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

 I blame Texas. Just like I blame them for puberty and the Ice-Age.

funk Texas, but Virgina is pretty awful too

[Andx]

I don't oppose the death penalty by any means. I do believe there are crimes where the perpetrator should die. Justice at its most strict and pure would demand the life of a murderer of innocents for example.

 

That said determining what the line is between something you deserve to die for or not is getting into the territory of playing God and that's dangerous. Being omniscient and omnipotent would come in handy for determining what criminals to execute but as none of us are we have to go through incredibly elaborate procedures to try and determine what to do instead. And seeing as the appeals processes for death penalties go on so long anyway we may as well just sentence them to life in jail and save what money we can.

 

As it stands I'm not fond of tax payer money having to support people who blatantly violate the law for the entirety of their lives. But it's that or spend way more money trying to figure out if they deserve to be executed.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-death-penalty_563d6302e4b0b24aee4a82dd

 

Ahh, nothing like spineless Politicians.

 

 

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/bernie-sanders-death-penalty-state-shouldnt-be-business-killing-people

 

But hey, scarecrow does something right

[epicmemesbro]

I'm iffy on this. I suppose they can give it to those who were confirmed by multiple sources that the criminal commit the crime 100%. I'm also skeptic on why it costs so much, maybe the means by which is done, but some people call it cruel punishment which violated the bill of rights. Then again we have way too many people in prisons...

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

I mean firing squad would likely be more human than having a med backfire and have the feeling of fire in your veils as you slowly died convulsing. But outside of a few people like me, that's too barbaric to use as an execution method

[mitchermitcher]

I'm not that opposed to the death penalty but it does give me comfort to think that no matter how low you sink, you still deserve to live.