Maeriberii Haan Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Raid Raptors – Ultimate Falcon / Raidraptor – Ultimate FalconDark Winged Beast / Xyz / EffectRK10 3500/20003 Level 10 Winged Beast-Type monsters(1) Unaffected by other card effects.(2) You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; all monsters your opponent currently controls lose 1000 ATK, also your opponent cannot activate cards or effects. These changes last until the end of this turn.(3) If this card has a “Raidraptor” monster as Xyz Material, it gains this effect.-During each End Phase: You can have each monster your opponent controls lose 1000 ATK. If your opponent does not control a monster, inflict 1000 damage to your opponent. they actually buffed this RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIiiiii Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeartic Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 1. I'm so happy 2. Going to make a RR deck dedicated to spam this. Will run sheet like Xyz reflect to get rid of non battle destruction. 3. Fun stuff is coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Hmm, so the deck has a non cydra infinity boss?! Also how the funk do you justify banning killer when he's being handed around to literally every boss as of recent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCR_CAT Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Hmm, so the deck has a non cydra infinity boss?! Also how the f*** do you justify banning killer when he's being handed around to literally every boss as of recent Because Towers was a +1 play that required minimal setup while this requires some finagling* with RUMs? *Yes, I am aware that this not technically the proper use of the word. It's just a fun word to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Fire Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Hmm, so the deck has a non cydra infinity boss?! Also how the f*** do you justify banning killer when he's being handed around to literally every boss as of recentDo you see an easy way to make this t1? if the answer is no, it's not on the level of towers. some logic like that probably. i'm so glad i basically don't play yugioh anymore. cause winter's right, this is like towers level bs here. Because Towers was a +1 play that required minimal setup while this requires some finagling* with RUMs? *Yes, I am aware that this not technically the proper use of the word. It's just a fun word to say.step 1: get one of the 2 rank 4s out step 2: use either raid or raptor force on it (if it's killed) step 3: make the rank 5 step 3: use doom double force on the rank 5 ta da Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCR_CAT Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Except, unlike Towers, this still requires proper effort to summon and, if UTL comes to TCG like it should, most decks will have a very viable and quite strong out to this, just like they would Towers. It's honestly a really strong card that makes the RUM use worth it; but it will actually take some effort to get onto the field and, like with monsters such as Quasar that also require a number of summons before they can hit the field, this means that the more steps required to make the monster the more that can go wrong in the process, and the more that can go wrong the bigger opportunity the opponent has to stop it from happening and/or screw over the opponent. It's really cool, and super hammy, but saying this will be as bad as Towers is honestly a stretch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted December 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 RUM searcher not named Ultimate Mace funking when koomy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexanort Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 well it got buffed pretty nicely, retain full immunity + locks effect each turn while isnt exactly easy to summon fitting for a boss monster shun's boss monster come out intact, and there's still no sign of assault blackwings ...come on konami... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Void Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Since this thing doesn't actually require Raidraptors to really be a complete monstrosity....you could actually run it in Blackwings by tossing in Aurora and Galaxy Queen's Light. It's obviously not optimal but it's a way to get it out without relying on RUMs and honestly, anything that even slightly gives the awful plot device that was Aurora a use is fine by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCR_CAT Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 You're probably honestly better off using DNA Surgery in Trains, and that's saying something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 You're probably honestly better off using DNA Surgery in Trains, and that's saying something.Or you just use the searchable last strix and use with astral force or skip force if it gets released to get this out with 2 extra deck spots, 1 searchable monster and a rank-up-magic, that is not really absurdly expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeartic Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 ITT: Ramming a Easy to make Blaze Falcon takes work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Fire Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 ITT: Ramming a Easy to make Blaze Falcon takes work.apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Void Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 ITT: Ramming a Easy to make Blaze Falcon takes work.It's more finding niche ways to toss it into other stuff without relying on RUMs or Raidraptors since it's potent and the effect is semi-generic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeartic Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 It's more finding niche ways to toss it into other stuff without relying on RUMs or Raidraptors since it's potent and the effect is semi-generic. It's 3 level TEN Winged beasts. No other deck is going to make this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Void Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 It's 3 level TEN Winged beasts. No other deck is going to make thisNo other deck is going to make it well, that's definitely true. But Blackwings and Harpies spam enough that it could be a cute tech in builds that run any sort of level modulation. I'm not saying it's a good idea just that it can be done since Konami left the best parts of this non-RR specific. It's one of those cards that's strong enough to justify at least trying silly gimmick builds for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeartic Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 No other deck is going to make it well, that's definitely true. But Blackwings and Harpies spam enough that it could be a cute tech in builds that run any sort of level modulation. I'm not saying it's a good idea just that it can be done since Konami left the best parts of this non-RR specific. It's one of those cards that's strong enough to justify at least trying silly gimmick builds for it. I guess in a way. Although how could Harpies and BW make this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Void Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Like I said earlier, Blackwings have Aurora and you could build around it and Galaxy Queen's Light. Worth it? Probably not but also fairly doable. Harpies would probably require something more unorthodox that I can't think of off the top of my head. And I mean even Earthbounds of all things could in theory run this with level modulation since you have two level 10 Winged Beasts available there along with good generic Winged Beasts like Zephyros. I'm in no way saying that running this outside of RRs is a good idea but more that I could see certain builds of non-RR winged beasts decks toying around with it. In RRs themselves, it's kind of a no-brainer how strong this is. It's a funking Towers Bird for god's sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Like I said earlier, Blackwings have Aurora and you could build around it and Galaxy Queen's Light. Worth it? Probably not but also fairly doable. Harpies would probably require something more unorthodox that I can't think of off the top of my head. And I mean even Earthbounds of all things could in theory run this with level modulation since you have two level 10 Winged Beasts available there along with good generic Winged Beasts like Zephyros. I'm in no way saying that running this outside of RRs is a good idea but more that I could see certain builds of non-RR winged beasts decks toying around with it. In RRs themselves, it's kind of a no-brainer how strong this is. It's a f***ing Towers Bird for god's sake.So you would really suggest using queen + aurora + 3 blackwings, instead of utilizing one mere last strix + astral force, granted you do not instantly inflict damage, but that is not the point of this card anways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Void Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Honestly, I forgot Last Strix is a thing to be honest. Welp, Aurora's back to being extreme garbage instead of garbage with a cute nichey purpose. I tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted December 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 don't forget skip force is also going to be a thing. which is pretty much ruri-specific astral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Honestly, I forgot Last Strix is a thing to be honest. Welp, Aurora's back to being extreme garbage instead of garbage with a cute nichey purpose. I tried. A lot of people who I've seen discuss this seem to forget Last Strix, but that cute birdie is the best thing that's happened to Ruriraptors' RUM shenanigans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 It's unlikely to see play. Death Double is a bad card. Unless we get a run searcher, it's going to have to be run in multiples to be consistent, and this also means multiple raid force to get to it, or a soul shave on a dead satellite Last Strix helps, but same issue. Unless Skip Force is good enough to warrant generically running (i.e. Start with tutu but go into anything) instead of a double raid force (go from anything to ruri), even that fails. And the Rank 8 just isn't worth making on its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hello my name is Enguin Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 I have the same issue as I had when it first was revealed, and that is that this is simply an impractical overkill card that takes too much effort and deck dedication to bring out when Zerofyne does basically the same thing far easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Last Strix helps, but same issue. Unless Skip Force is good enough to warrant generically running (i.e. Start with tutu but go into anything) instead of a double raid force (go from anything to ruri), even that fails. And the Rank 8 just isn't worth making on its own. I'm using Last Strix + Astral Force until Skip Force is revealed. If we still had Lavalval Chain in the TCG, Astral Force would be easier to get, but eh. @Enguin: All you literally need to do to bring this out is draw into Astral/Skip Force. The deck is so good at searching its monsters, that searching/recovering Last Strix while making other alternative plays is no difficult feat, barring lots of backrow. Note that I'm not advocating that one should shove this into their Ruriraptors, but it's not as hard as some are making it out to be. You just don't make it the focus, but rather just another option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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