Assault Blackwing – Sohaya the May Rain

[Slinky]

What, are BW suddenly going to put in Catastor now, just so they can make Infinity? With Blackwings, Infinity would be a stand alone play, and Infinity is garbage by itself. At least Quasar can end the game by itself.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

What, are BW suddenly going to put in Catastor now, just so they can make Infinity? With Blackwings, Infinity would be a stand alone play, and Infinity is garbage by itself. At least Quasar can end the game by itself.

Don't they already? Huhn, guess it's not a thing in TCG. I was talking generally, but considering that TCG still has Norden, a panzer tech might not be terrible

[玄魔の王]

Don't they already? Huhn, guess it's not a thing in TCG. I was talking generally, but considering that TCG still has Norden, a panzer tech might not be terrible

Catastor has generally fallen out of favour since a) a lot of bosses are DARK and b) a lot of things float. Armades is more popular.

[IQuitDolphin]

Catastor has generally fallen out of favour since a) a lot of bosses are DARK and b) a lot of things float. Armades is more popular.

 

It might warrant a slot just for the bridge into CDI, but that takes up WAY TOO MANY slots in the ED. It's not worth it, even as a power play; CDI can't win on it's own.

[Spinny]

Don't they already? Huhn, guess it's not a thing in TCG. I was talking generally, but considering that TCG still has Norden, a panzer tech might not be terrible

OCG blackwings suck, stop talking about them like you know the deck.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

OCG blackwings suck, stop talking about them like you know the deck.

 

Coming from the guy that ran Chicken Game in BW, OCG BA are far ahead in their consistancy relative to TCG

[Bringerofcake]

WHy would you run Catastor when Chanbara is the superior Machine target?

[Spinny]

Coming from the guy that ran Chicken Game in BW, OCG BA are far ahead in their consistancy relative to TCG

Says the guy who lost to it not 2 times but 3 times in a row. I dont see how chicken game is bad, you can easily out maneuvre it in a crap tonne of ways and is generally lit with zephyros, making hands without Whirlwind infinitely better, Zephyros + Bora/Kris = xyz, detach and bounce Chicken to hand with zephyros, and soon we will have Strix aswell, making it even better. 

 

You have literally 0 reasoning or backing behind any of your points for this deck currently, just stahp.

 

Also, the amount you overhype Infinity is just unreasonable, Instant fusion + Chanbara is no where near worth it. It also takes up an an extra 3 extra deck slots (Infinity + Cyber dragon xyz + panzar) which you really cant afford at this point.

 

EDIT: Oh and before you complain about how you were using a "crappy Hero deck" that was still meta at the time, dont use my 2 losses against an OCG deck that opened harpies feather duster 2 games in a row as backup.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

My god, I started this to say that Quasar is just as sheet as Infinity, and then conceded that it was possible to run Infinity in Blackwings. Let me set the accord straight, both Quasar and Infinity are meh.

 

You won 3-0 once, after the list raped the deck and put Mist at one. OCG or not you played a gutted version. Awfully convenient for you to forget about all the many more times you have lost.

 

OCG has reborn, OCG has multiple allures, OCG has staples. Don't talk about OCG blackwings when you have no idea how they work

 

In a desperate attempt to make this go back to the original topic. Investing in Quasar isn't worth it

[玄魔の王]

In a desperate attempt to make this go back to the original topic. Investing in Quasar isn't worth it

Even when a simple Sohaya-Level Eater loop can make Quasar for dirt cheap fairly consistently?

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Even when a simple Sohaya-Level Eater loop can make Quasar for dirt cheap fairly consistently?

Do elaborate

[Spinny]

Even when a simple Sohaya-Level Eater loop can make Quasar for dirt cheap fairly consistently?

[spoiler= The weirdest decklist you've ever seen]

 

 

Would you mean something roughly like this?

I still need to streamline it and take out unnecessary stuff for Instant fuse, foolish burial and 1 for 1. Ignore most of extra deck, threw some stuff in there to see what i would need to make quasar in most scenarios.

[玄魔の王]

Do elaborate

Search "YGOHack137". All you need is a Level Eater and a way to make a LV5 Synchro.

[Spinny]

 

Oh.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

He ran Accel Synchro. Lv5 Machine. You might as well just run IF for noden and panzer over that sheet.

[Spinny]

He ran Accel Synchro. Lv5 Machine. You might as well just run IF for noden and panzer over that sheet.

You dont need accel or panzer, just use squall to make formula synchron i guess. 

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

You dont need accel or panzer, just use squall to make formula synchron i guess. 

That's adding yet again more steps though. Also the reliance on Foolish is greatly disturbing. I could maybe see the deck working in OCG with Chain, but the sheer amount of effects you need to get off to make the quasar, make this prime Veiler/Maxx bait, where as making a lv5 machine synchro that can get over the 3000 Atk/Def ceiling in OCG is a great move especially when something like IF can act a threat remover and filler as needed

 

There is little reason to go quasar over Infinity given this combination

[玄魔の王]

That's adding yet again more steps though. Also the reliance on Foolish is greatly disturbing. I could maybe see the deck working in OCG with Chain, but the sheer amount of effects you need to get off to make the quasar, make this prime Veiler/Maxx bait, where as making a lv5 machine synchro that can get over the 3000 Atk/Def ceiling in OCG is a great move especially when something like IF can act a threat remover and filler as needed

 

There is little reason to go quasar over Infinity given this combination

Remind me again how well Catastor or Infinity get over Dark Destroyer.

[Tinkerer]

...And here I was, under the impression that what peeps were saying here was that going into Quasar wasn't the focus, but that this card opens the utility of going into Quasar off of relatively little effort in the mid/late game as a finisher.  It's not about Quasar being good/bad or whether or not going into Infinity is easier or not; it is about the fact that this card opens the choice to run Quasar as a 1-of and know that you have it in your back pocket in case you need a finishing blow.

 

...at least, that's what I'm getting from all this.

[玄魔の王]

...And here I was, under the impression that what peeps were saying here was that going into Quasar wasn't the focus, but that this card opens the utility of going into Quasar off of relatively little effort in the mid/late game as a finisher. It's not about Quasar being good/bad or whether or not going into Infinity is easier or not; it is about the fact that this card opens the choice to run Quasar as a 1-of and know that you have it in your back pocket in case you need a finishing blow.

 

...at least, that's what I'm getting from all this.

That's what I tried to get at initially, though we later confirmed you coud build a deck around that goal.

[IQuitDolphin]

What I find ironic out of all this is that CDI needs THREE-FOUR ED slots, while the combo listed needs FIVE-SIX ED slots.

 

It cracks me up. I honestly think both approaches are bad and not needed.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Remind me again how well Catastor or Infinity get over Dark Destroyer.

It wouldn't be he was:

 

1) Attacking me on OCG BW. Last I checked, the Kozmo are not currently legal in OCG. Please correct me if I am incorrect in that regard

 

 

OCG blackwings suck, stop talking about them like you know the deck.

 

 

2) Quasar should not be your go to in order to deal with DD in any regard. Blackwings should focus on ending the game with potential burn damage in the form of DSF or make UTL (which should be accessible yes?) or make Trishula...not Quasar which needs to go through significantly more loops.

What I find ironic out of all this is that CDI needs THREE-FOUR ED slots, while the combo listed needs FIVE-SIX ED slots.

 

It cracks me up.

Well, the world would end if people accepted I was correct

 

Bottom-line, both Quasar and Infinity are meh in blackwings, but if you're playing OCG and have the credible threat of something like Twin Twister blowing out multiple Whirlwinds, Infinity should be chosen ages before you consider a bad loop with Quasar that either needs a limited card and multiple ED investment, or enough advantage to make Lavaval instead

[Spinny]

What I find ironic out of all this is that CDI needs THREE-FOUR ED slots, while the combo listed needs FIVE-SIX ED slots.

 

It cracks me up. I honestly think both approaches are bad and not needed.

I thought it required 1 tbh, didnt know this was how they made it, i dont think it's good.

 

 

Bottom-line, both Quasar and Infinity are meh in blackwings, but if you're playing OCG and have the credible threat of something like Twin Twister blowing out multiple Whirlwinds, Infinity should be chosen ages before you consider a bad loop with Quasar that either needs a limited card and multiple ED investment, or enough advantage to make Lavaval instead

tbh this is the best option, but i wouldnt run either at all, both are just weird. 

 

Sorry for being so weird and angry before, didnt mean to be like that, was just angry in general when i saw this and kinda just started spouting crap. Woops.

[玄魔の王]

It wouldn't be he was

1) Attacking me on OCG BW. Last I checked, the Kozmo are not currently legal in OCG. Please correct me if I am incorrect in that regard

2) Quasar should not be your go to in order to deal with DD in any regard. Blackwings should focus on ending the game with potential burn damage in the form of DSF or make UTL (which should be accessible yes?) or make Trishula...not Quasar

Well, the world would end if people accepted I was correct

You do know the TCG is what most of the people here are talking about right? Much of the TCG cannot play Lightning, and DO have to deal with cards like Dark Destroyer. Ending the game with DSF is laughable.

 

But okay, you're right in that Quasar is really hoop-jumpy for Blackwings. But know what else Sohaya can make easily? Stardust Warrior. Who has the advantage of being a threat to Pendulums and Xyz.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

You do know the TCG is what most of the people here are talking about right? Much of the TCG cannot play Lightning, and DO have to deal with cards like Dark Destroyer. Ending the game with DSF is laughable.

 

But okay, you're right in that Quasar is really hoop-jumpy for Blackwings. But know what else Sohaya can make easily? Stardust Warrior. Who has the advantage of being a threat to Pendulums and Xyz.

Dark Strike fighter can do 1400 Damage by himself :/ 

 

That was a direct response to Spindy with response to OCG. In TCG the combination, as you noted, is even harder to do since you only have foolish and not even chain. 

 

Make Dweller and run Kalut is the best way to run over DD

 

One blackwing damage push should put you in DSF's danger zone vs Kozmo. The card is still amazing.

 

Or better yet...Just Make Trish