Blake Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 1 Zombie-Type Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner Zombie-Type monstersIf this card is Special Summoned: You can banish 1 Zombie-Type monster from your Graveyard; this card gains ATK equal to the banished monster's original ATK, until the end of this turn. If this card on the field is destroyed by battle or card effect and sent to the Graveyard: You can target 1 of your banished Zombie-Type monsters with 0 DEF; return it to the Graveyard. You can only Special Summon "Shiranui Shogunsaga(s)" once per turn. Because 3000. Also because Sage makes this card good, not garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodrigo Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 >tfw I'm still 400 reps behind you Guess I'm sticking to 3rd place. But yeah, glad Shiranui got more support that makes them playable instead of a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 I mean, sure it can gain some attack and set up the grave a bit. But as far as 3k lv8 synchs, this is still trash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 I mean, sure it can gain some attack and set up the grave a bit. But as far as 3k lv8 synchs, this is still trashwhy would you hard summon this 9/10...? You summon it with Spectralsword, either by reviving it to go with the 6 (some combos) or from the grave after going into Omega (normally), so you get lots of free value off of it. It's also an out to Magnus/Ultiruri, or equivalent big things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 It's pretty cool in shiranui since you can SS it during your opponent's turn using Swallow Style if it's in the banish Zone and can trigger Necroface. "obligatory magnus out" this gets hilariously big and ur already pairing this with cards like utopia the lightning and Omemega Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinny Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Unizombie's "only zombs can attack" clause makes this slightly better aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Considering the Archetype was scatterbrained/weird/etc before Sage appeared-Of course Sage would end up fixing everything, since Sage basically does everything. Regardless, it's amusing how This card could potentially Banish other copies of itself, and in turn, be a 6K beater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snatch Steal Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 k but it's shiranui what are they gonna doI guess it's okay since you can return your Spectralsword to make another one and, like above, potentially make a 6k beater, but there's no removal or search power. The reason Dracopals and Burning Abyss and Monarchs are so good is because they have resources, monster output, removal, and protection, while this deck has very little of any of those.On the bright side, it's any zombies, but any other zombie deck is basically garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 k but it's shiranui what are they gonna doI guess it's okay since you can return your Spectralsword to make another one and, like above, potentially make a 6k beater, but there's no removal or search power. The reason Dracopals and Burning Abyss and Monarchs are so good is because they have resources, monster output, removal, and protection, while this deck has very little of any of those.On the bright side, it's any zombies, but any other zombie deck is basically garbage. i mean, barring some major shift, sage makes shiranui workable in a TCG format. Omega looping Mezuki/Sword is really strong, and once the deck has an Omega out, it's fairly far ahead. Samurai and Smith suck, but Sword is good and Priest's a fine card all around. Also, this deck still has R4 capability. Not as much as Pals, but all the same, it's zombies. A slower roll at the start (I.E. Until you hit Sage) leading to a lot of free resources the further you go. Finally... Why can a card be good in a theoretical bad deck? I never claimed this was some top tier OP card or some dumb sheet, only that it is now good and playable, which it most certainly is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 why would you hard summon this 9/10...? You summon it with Spectralsword, either by reviving it to go with the 6 (some combos) or from the grave after going into Omega (normally), so you get lots of free value off of it. It's also an out to Magnus/Ultiruri, or equivalent big things.Exactly. It's very easy to go:-Spectral effect, banish itself and Sage for the LV6-Sage's effect summons Spectralsword-Make this, banish the LV6 for a 5500 beater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Even if Shiranui isn't NEXT META DECK COMING TO LOCALS NEAR YOU I'm not gonna lie I was pleasantly surprised I was able totake some pepe names Monarch is a crap shoot tho (necroface is poor to okayish meme). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Void Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Yeah....I've never really understood why everyone always said this guy was awful given how stupidly easy he is to summon in his actual deck. Sure, he's not the greatest thing ever but he's a really, really easy to get out beater who gets very large, very quickly. I really think "simple" but effective cards like this are undervalued in this game by a lot of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Yeah....I've never really understood why everyone always said this guy was awful given how stupidly easy he is to summon in his actual deck. Sure, he's not the greatest thing ever but he's a really, really easy to get out beater who gets very large, very quickly. I really think "simple" but effective cards like this are undervalued in this game by a lot of players.How were you fielding sword for plays before? Like, that's the thing. Sage fixes a lot of general issues, like how hard it was to get sword going/finding Unizombie, and he wasn't really playable before beyond a tech due to being too difficult to make for too little payoff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryusei the Morning Star Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 How were you fielding sword for plays before? Like, that's the thing. Sage fixes a lot of general issues, like how hard it was to get sword going/finding Unizombie, and he wasn't really playable before beyond a tech due to being too difficult to make for too little payoff.It wasn't so much my intention to call this sheet, as much as to question if this was really the best out to things like towers and ulti ruri..neither of which seem too relevant anyway. The card just seems to niched (and yes I saw that you weren't calling this amazing, not saying you were) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Void Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 How were you fielding sword for plays before? Like, that's the thing. Sage fixes a lot of general issues, like how hard it was to get sword going/finding Unizombie, and he wasn't really playable before beyond a tech due to being too difficult to make for too little payoff.I've never played Shiranui because I always felt like they were missing something fundamental before Sage but even then, I feel like that was more a problem with the design of the archetype itself than Shogunsaga. In theory, he was always meant to be easy to field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted March 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 I've never played Shiranui because I always felt like they were missing something fundamental before Sage but even then, I feel like that was more a problem with the design of the archetype itself than Shogunsaga. In theory, he was always meant to be easy to field. Well yeah, it was a problem wit hthe shoddily designed archetype, but that doesn't change that this card just wasn't good. Its deck could not reliably summon it to use it. I guess it's okay as a generic zombie card because it's a "Towers" out that can be summoned with Unizombie, but that's really it. At the same time, outing these cards was not as important at the time of its reveal/release as it is now (Towers was the only real threat, and R4 answered it), so there wasn't much reason to play it in generic, not that there is reason to play generic zombies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IQuitDolphin Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 I mean, Spectral Sword is arguably one of the better Shiranui cards since it had so much potential and was the only reason the deck was on my watchlist. ----- A Vayu into a possible 4k+ beater is quite good, even if it doesn't actively generate plusses in the form of hand advantage, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Juggling two around with Sage is really satisfying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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