Cincinnati Zoo Kills Gorilla to Protect Child Who Fell in Enclosure

[Aerion Brightflame]

It's not sad, it's negligence. If your child is a slippery bastard, don't take him out till you can deal with that. Others should not have to suffer for your mistake

 

Also what if the gorilla had fallen on the child? 

 

Those parents don't deserve a child

 

Do you have footage of what occurred? 

 

Do you have footage or any none circumstantial evidence proving negligence on the behalf of these parents?

 

If not, shut your god damn mouth about judging them. You allegedly being a parent doesn't give you the right to judge how others want to raise there children. If you think all children should be kept under lock and key and never allowed to truly explore the world for themselves so be it. But you don't get the right to judge how these people chose to raise there kids because of a one in a million or more mistake. You do not get to decide about 'who gets to have kids' or not, because parenting is not f***ing easy, and you are going to make mistakes during it, sometimes they are minor, sometimes they are major but they always happen. And a single incident is not enough to condemn people as poor parents. 

 

Again, we have no evidence of negligence because we know only the bare minimal facts here. There is no point starting a witch hunt about it. You are just being a self righteous prick about it currently.  

[Maeriberii Haan]

It's really NOT hard to hold a child hand. If they're that young you should hold their hand. The parents have no excuse short of someone kidnapping their child and throwing him over the boundary

 

That has little to no relation to my post that you're quoting. Could this be avoided entirely by having the parents be more vigilant? Yes, of course. But without knowing the full scenario blaming the parents entirely to this feels premature.

 

They're far from blameless but a lot of people painted them as the worst parent of the year while it could probably just caused by worst-timed humane mistake.

[Progenitor]

You can shoot a Gorrila. Good luck shooting a car to save your kid. And streets don't have railings

Child Services really needs to look into these two people

Dude, you have no right to say that without knowing the circumstance. For all we know, the kid leaned too far forward while peaking over the edge, right has his parents weren't looking right at him, and flipped forward into the enclosure. That happens ALL THE FUCKIN TIME. Not specifically with just zoos, but anything with a ledge and a large drop. Why do you think so many zoos are adapting to enclosures with large vertical glass segments? To make it so this can only happen if one was to physcally run and jump into and through said glass.

 

Hell when I was a kid I used to pull myself onto the handrail all the time, and usually tried to sit on it. If I lost my balance while doing so, in I went. Sure my parents stopped me from doing so, but what if they didn't look in time? It only needs to happen once

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Do you have footage of what occurred? 

 

Do you have footage or any none circumstantial evidence proving negligence on the behalf of these parents?

 

If not, shut your god damn mouth about judging them. You allegedly being a parent doesn't give you the right to judge how others want to raise there children. If you think all children should be kept under lock and key and never allowed to truly explore the world for themselves so be it. But you don't get the right to judge how these people chose to raise there kids because of a one in a million or more mistake. You do not get to decide about 'who gets to have kids' or not, because parenting is not f***ing easy, and you are going to make mistakes during it. 

 

Again, we have no evidence of negligence because we know only the bare minimal facts here. There is no point starting a witch hunt about it. You are just being a self righteous prick about it currently.

 

Lol what. It's not "lock and key" Tom. It's open public with strangers. What if somone had kidnapped the child? The fact remains the child would not have fallen if the parents were holding his arm as anyone should do for a 4 year old

 

This isn't about me. I didn't take care of my daughter properly. I made poor choices for both of us. Guess what, she'll never live with me again. I'm asking for accountability from the parents

 

They can raise him however the funk they want, but if they let him wander in public that's their fault and gorillas are the least of their worries

Dude, you have no right to say that without knowing the circumstance. For all we know, the kid leaned too far forward while peaking over the edge, right has his parents weren't looking right at him, and flipped forward into the enclosure. That happens ALL THE FUCKIN TIME. Not specifically with just zoos, but anything with a ledge and a large drop. Why do you think so many zoos are adapting to enclosures with large vertical glass segments? To make it so this can only happen if one was to physcally run and jump into and through said glass.

Hell when I was a kid I used to pull myself onto the handrail all the time, and usually tried to sit on it. If I lost my balance while doing so, in I went. Sure my parents stopped me from doing so, but what if they didn't look in time? It only needs to happen once

And that's not negligence how? Either the zoo standards weren't safe (which seems dubious cause clearly other kids visit that exhibit too) or the parents had something else on their mind except their kid. That's not ok regardless of the fact that it ends up harmless 99/100 times

[.Rai]

Why on earth are people painting these parents as like demons from the seventh layer of hell? Lapses of judgement happen with all parents. Sometimes, it's something minor, and sometimes it's something that unfortunately escalates further. They could be crap parents, but they could also be otherwise okay parents in a one-off unfortunately easily avoided accident. I wouldn't equal this to repeated criminal negligence at any point, as sad as it is.

 

HURR DURR, OKAY CHAMP, YOU KNOW WHY THERE'S A BARRIER HERE? FOR YOU TO DEFINITELY CROSS IT!

The lack of sympathy people on the internet have towards young children astounds me. I mean, not directed at you specifically, but I've noticed time and time again that lots of people on the internet really don't like young kids doing dumb things. You only have to look at how much hate you get in AskReddit threads at young children in supermarkets.

 

Dumb things is what kids do.

[Aerion Brightflame]

Lol what. It's not "lock and key" Tom. It's open public with strangers. What if somone had kidnapped the child? The fact remains the child would not have fallen if the parents were holding his arm as anyone should do for a 4 year old

 

They can raise him however the f*** they want, but if they let him wander in public that's their fault and gorillas are the least of their worries

 

Do you have proof this happened?

 

You are missing the point - We know literally nothing about how he fell into the enclosure, simply that he did. We don't know if he was unattended, if he was dropped out of his parents arms, if he wriggled out of them, or if he just tripped in the wrong manner and feel. Hell someone could have pushed into the parents or the kids and he could have fallen in.

 

We know nothing about how this happened. We don't know who if anyone is to blame. 

 

As such there is no basis of any kind to judge these parents as neglectful or inattentive, because: We. Know. f***. All.

 

How hard is that to understand Winter? There is no basis of any kind to judge them on because there are no facts around it. As such, we should not judge them, we should sympathise and be thankful nothing worse came of this. 

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

That has little to no relation to my post that you're quoting. Could this be avoided entirely by having the parents be more vigilant? Yes, of course. But without knowing the full scenario blaming the parents entirely to this feels premature.

 

They're far from blameless but a lot of people painted them as the worst parent of the year while it could probably just caused by worst-timed humane mistake.

Mis-quote sorry. Worse is putting it far cause just today a guy raped his daughter here. But whether they're fit to raise a child should be questioned. Again. This is supposedly safe (the zoo), Cincinatii streets on the other hand aren't as forgiving and your can't exactly shoot a car cause you were negligent and your child was being a child

Do you have proof this happened?

 

You are missing the point - We know literally nothing about how he feel into the enclosure, simply that he did. We don't know if he was unattended, if he was dropped out of his parents arms, if he wriggled out of them, or if he just tripped in the wrong manner and feel. Hell someone could have pushed into the parents or the kids and he could have fallen in.

 

We know nothing about how this happened. We don't know who if anyone is to blame. 

 

As such there is no basis of any kind to judge these parents as neglectful or inattentive, because: We. Know. funk. All.

Then the zoo has a serious problem on their hands with unsafe regulations. But a sheet ton of people visit the zoo, and how many incidents like this occurred. There's always pushing. Either thr zoo has really unsafe standards (again statistically unlikely) or the parents engaged in some manner of behavior that put their child in danger

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Edit: we actually do have info (granted Eye witness)

 

She was taking pictures and let him crawl through it before noticing. Sure she flipped out after somone had to tell where her child was, but that's the bare funking minimum

 

The gorilla also was reported to be protective of the child.

[Progenitor]

Lol what. It's not "lock and key" Tom. It's open public with strangers.

And that's not negligence how? Either the zoo standards weren't safe (which seems dubious cause clearly other kids visit that exhibit too) or the parents had something else on their mind except their kid. That's not ok regardless of the fact that it ends up harmless 99/100 times

Holy funking sheet you are so unbelievably ignorant I just gave myself a migraine. You need to take off your parent goggles and look at this objectively. I just looked at the article. You know what it said about the parents?

ABSOLUTELY

funking

NOTHING

 

Literally not a word. Was the kid lost, wondering around the zoo? Were they with him and took their eyes off him for two seconds? WE HAVE NO funking CLUE. So you have no right to call them negligent, and FURTHERMORE, you CERTAINLY don't have the right to judge their worth as parents.

 

I was HYPER AS funk as a kid. I got lost in stores CONSTANTLY. In fact, I even got lost in the zoo once. The difference? I was a funking mama's boy and sheet my pants with fear when I got lost. But if I wasn't? That child could have totally been me. But look at me now. I'm studying what I love at one of the top engineering schools in the country, and I have no one but my PARENTS to thank for it.

 

If you are so ignorant to believe 2 seconds of negligence is enough to warrant losing custody of a child, then you must have stress ulcers forming in your stomach every time you choose to do ANYTHING with your daughter.

 

 

This is what I funking hate about discussions nowadays. The beautiful thing known as the "objective perspective" is almost completely gone. BUT THATS THE sheet THAT DEFINES OUR LAW SYSTEM AND ENSURES FAIR AND OPTIMAL PROCEDURE. Seriously, it's FINE to view things from an emotional standpoint, but you HAVE to ALSO consider the LOGICAL AND OBJECTIVE side. If you don't, then you make yourself into an ignorant fool.

 

Am I saying the parents were stellar? NO. Far from it. BUT WHAT I AM saying, is that EVIDENCE IS EVERYTHING. Without evidence, all you have is BASELESS CONJECTURE. So go get some facts before you start shoving your opinions in our face like its the funking truth.

[Ire]

You're misinterpreting the law. We aren't charging the thing for murder here. But if it severely injures or kills someone, even by accident, then it is considered "resonably dangerous", and therefore cannot be kept close to the public. So either one of two things happens. Either (A) the zoo dips into their own wallet and/or whatever funding they are given access to, and send the animal to a location where it's species lives naturally

 

So the animal is considered dangerous because it injuries or kill.

Before that it is not dangerous.

After that it is at 100%.

I'm making it sound a bit big but that's the idea.

 

Animals in zoo are kept away from visitors' contact, and incidents occur almost always by accident.

I'm sure you agree animals don't always mean to harm people in these incidents, so are they really more dangerous after than before ? In zoos, the staff can tell if an animal is inclined to be aggressive or lunatic, and that is the only way to tell wether the animal is dangerous or not.

 

So I'm repeating it again and again, this is inapropriate.

 

And option (A) is the zoo consolidates the enclosure of the animal and takes it a bit farther from visitors.

 

@.Rai : I think Mayor of Balanced Hackmons was ironic... :/

+ I'm happy to learn I'm not the only one who get lost in supermarkets and that my parents weren't demons.

 

EDIT : And we should just all calm down a bit.

[.Rai]

Yeah, please keep it civil, guys. I think there's interesting things to be said here, but, really, do keep a level head.

[Progenitor]

If I accidentally kill my neighbor, I'm still going to be tried for murder.  The only thing I'm going to get is a lighter sentence if I can make it completely apparent that it was, in fact, an accident.  That's the nature of this law.  If the experts you just described are able to provide substantial evidence that the incident was truly just a tragic accident, then option A is available, where the animal is able to act on those tendencies as much as it wants and lives free in the wild.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Holy funking sheet you are so unbelievably ignorant I just gave myself a migraine. You need to take off your parent goggles and look at this objectively. I just looked at the article. You know what it said about the parents?

ABSOLUTELY

funking

NOTHING

 

Literally not a word. Was the kid lost, wondering around the zoo? Were they with him and took their eyes off him for two seconds? WE HAVE NO funking CLUE. So you have no right to call them negligent, and FURTHERMORE, you CERTAINLY don't have the right to judge their worth as parents.

 

I was HYPER AS funk as a kid. I got lost in stores CONSTANTLY. In fact, I even got lost in the zoo once. The difference? I was a funking mama's boy and sheet my pants with fear when I got lost. But if I wasn't? That child could have totally been me. But look at me now. I'm studying what I love at one of the top engineering schools in the country, and I have no one but my PARENTS to thank for it.

 

If you are so ignorant to believe 2 seconds of negligence is enough to warrant losing custody of a child, then you must have stress ulcers forming in your stomach every time you choose to do ANYTHING with your daughter.

 

 

This is what I funking hate about discussions nowadays. The beautiful thing known as the "objective perspective" is almost completely gone. BUT THATS THE sheet THAT DEFINES OUR LAW SYSTEM AND ENSURES FAIR AND OPTIMAL PROCEDURE. Seriously, it's FINE to view things from an emotional standpoint, but you HAVE to ALSO consider the LOGICAL AND OBJECTIVE side. If you don't, then you make yourself into an ignorant fool.

 

Am I saying the parents were stellar? NO. Far from it. BUT WHAT I AM saying, is that EVIDENCE IS EVERYTHING. Without evidence, all you have is BASELESS CONJECTURE. So go get some facts before you start shoving your opinions in our face like its the funking truth.

Well, for starter we do have evidence? Flawed? Eye Witness Sure, but evidence never the less

 

http://www.foreverymom.com/witness-to-cincinnati-zoo-gorilla-death-it-wasnt-the-parents-fault/

 

Take it with a grain of salt, cause 1) She's being pretty bias towards defending the mother

 

…the mother was calling for her son. Actually, just prior to him going over, but she couldn’t see him crawling through the bushes! She said “He was right here! I took a pic and his hand was in my back pocket and then gone!”

 

I'm not sure I consider that responsible? First of all, backpocket? How are you supposed to see your child if his hand is in your back pocket?

 

First of all, this isn't emotional really. I'm concerned that if a lady thinks a back pocket hand is "taking care of her kid" what happens when she is taking a pic of the empire state building and her child crawls into traffic?

 

You ended up well? Great to hear. I'm not faulting the child for being a child, and good on your parents for making sure that you were always well protected. This lady did NOT do that. And that's why I'm saying there needs to be a serious investigation in the parents here. Just as there should be for the zoo after the polar bear incident already happened there.

 

 

Speaks volumes tbh

 

What does MY daughter have to do with ANY of this? I sure as hell didn't my toddler walk around in public with just her hand in my back pocket. I had/have drug problems, so we all agreed she was in much better hands with her mother. And I do worry for her. But she's with someone who does keep an eye on her at all times

 

It's because people like me and this idiot mother exist that I'm upset about this incident 

 

[spoiler=eyewitness]

 

My family and I decided to go to the zoo yesterday after visiting my neice at Cincinnati Childrens hospital. For those of you that have already heard, there was a terrible accident there yesterday. And since every news media has covered this story, I don't feel bad telling our side. This was an accident! ! A terrible accident, but just that! My husband's voice is the voice talking to the child in one of the videos. I was taking a pic of the female gorilla, when my eldest son yells, "what is he doing? " I looked down, and to my surprise, there was a small child that had apparently, literally "flopped" over the railing, where there was then about 3 feet of ground that the child quickly crawled through! ! I assumed the woman next to me was the mother, getting ready to grab him until she says, "Whose kid is this? " None of us actually thought he'd go over the nearly 15 foot drop, but he was crawling so fast through the bushes before myself or husband could grab him, he went over! The crowed got a little frantic and the mother was calling for her son. Actually, just prior to him going over, but she couldn't see him crawling through the bushes! She said "He was right here! I took a pic and his hand was in my back pocket and then gone!" As she could find him nowhere, she lookes to my husband (already over the railing talking to the child) and asks, "Sir, is he wearing green shorts? " My husband reluctantly had to tell her yes, when she then nearly had a break down! They are both wanting to go over into the 15 foot drop, when I forbade my husband to do so, and attempted to calm the mother by calling 911 and assure her help was on the way. Neither my husband or the mother would have made that jump without breaking something! I wasn't leaving with my boys, because I didn't trust my husband not to jump in and the gorilla did just seem to be protective of the child. It wasn't until the gorilla became agitated because of the nosey, dramatic, helpless crowd; that the gorilla violently ran with the child! And it was very violent; although I think the gorilla was still trying to protect, we're taking a 400 lb gorilla throwing a 40 lb toddler around! It was horrific! The zoo responded very quickly, clearing the area and attempting to save both the child and the gorilla! The right choice was made. Thank God the child survived with non-life threatening, but serious injuries! This was an open exhibit! Which means the only thing separating you from the gorillas, is a 15 ish foot drop and a moat and some bushes! ! This mother was not negligent and the zoo did an awesome job handling the situation! Especially since that had never happened before! ! Thankful for the zoo and their attempts and my thoughts and prayers goes out to this boy, his mother and his family.

 

https://www.facebook.com/dee.rister/posts/934660816651599

 

 

 

[Ire]

Well, for starter we do have evidence? Flawed? Eye Witness Sure, but evidence never the less

 

http://www.foreverymom.com/witness-to-cincinnati-zoo-gorilla-death-it-wasnt-the-parents-fault/

 

Take it with a grain of salt, cause 1) She's being pretty bias towards defending the mother

 

…the mother was calling for her son. Actually, just prior to him going over, but she couldn’t see him crawling through the bushes! She said “He was right here! I took a pic and his hand was in my back pocket and then gone!”

 

I'm not sure I consider that responsible? First of all, backpocket? How are you supposed to see your child if his hand is in your back pocket?

 

 

What does MY daughter have to do with ANY of this? I sure as hell didn't my toddler walk around in public with just her hand in my back pocket. I had/have drug problems, so we all agreed she was in much better hands with her mother. And I do worry for her. But she's with someone who does keep an eye on her at all times

 

It's because people like me and this idiot mother exist that I'm upset about this incident 

 

 

 

This is sickening and not at all funny. The situation is heartbreaking enough with y'all poking fun and Saterizing it

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

 

Hmm? Its true, atleast the gorilla was shielding the child, much better off then a 13th hour "mommys here" from the mother

[vla1ne]

To save the kid, you have to interact with the gorilla, no matter what option you choose, but one wrong action when interacting with the gorilla would end up with the child dead or severely injured.

that about sums this up, in only one out of the 4 potential ways that everything could have gone down in that cage ( with or without outside intervention) would both parties would have made it out unharmed. in other words, there was a 1 in 4 chance of the child not being killed or horribly injured, even if the gorilla had the absolute best of intentions. yes, the death of said gorilla is saddening, but at the same time, it prevented the worst (and most likely) outcomes. this was not a situation in which you can wait and see what happens, if the kid dies, there's a damn high chance that the zoo gets sued to high heaven and loses customers for a very long time afterwards. it was a decision that had to be made quickly, regardless of the outcome, and unless it ended as the absolute best result, which had a 1 in 4 chance of happening before intervention, somebody was going to complain, so they chose the most reasonable option available that would do the least damage.

 

by killing the gorilla, they save the child, their zoo, the jobs of the people working there, and their own wallets. 4 out of 5 things make it out alive. not the best outcome, but close enough. this is reality, wishful thinking isn't an option in these kinds of cases, they measured their odds, and chose the one that had the most benefits.

[Progenitor]

Well, for starter we do have evidence? Flawed? Eye Witness Sure, but evidence never the less

 

http://www.foreverymom.com/witness-to-cincinnati-zoo-gorilla-death-it-wasnt-the-parents-fault/

 

Take it with a grain of salt, cause 1) She's being pretty bias towards defending the mother

 

…the mother was calling for her son. Actually, just prior to him going over, but she couldn’t see him crawling through the bushes! She said “He was right here! I took a pic and his hand was in my back pocket and then gone!”

 

I'm not sure I consider that responsible? First of all, backpocket? How are you supposed to see your child if his hand is in your back pocket?

 

 

One witness, however, has come forward on Facebook to describe the incident, which she calls a “terrible accident”—and she says the boy’s parents are not to blame. In her public Facebook post, Deidre Lykins says[...]

 

Way to twist a comment to suit your needs.  I'm done here.  You're a lost cause.  I already flipped out once.  I could completely tear your argument to shreds using an emotional lens from my past experiences, but to be honest those are memories I really don't want to remember unless I have to.  So I think I'm just gonna stop.  If you want to antagonize the situation further with your ignorance of what "justified and persistent negligence" is, then be my guest.  I'll come at you full funking force.  But if you are also tired of this sheet, then just leave it be.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Way to twist a comment to suit your needs.  I'm done here.  You're a lost cause.  I already flipped out once.  I could completely tear your argument to shreds using an emotional lens from my past experiences, but to be honest those are memories I really don't want to remember unless I have to.  So I think I'm just gonna stop.  If you want to antagonize the situation further with your ignorance of what "justified and persistent negligence" is, then be my guest.  I'll come at you full funking force.  But if you are also tired of this sheet, then just leave it be.

 

Well, for starter we do have evidence? Flawed? Eye Witness Sure, but evidence never the less

 

Take it with a grain of salt, cause 1) She's being pretty bias towards defending the mother

 

 

There's no argument outside that a hand in a back pocket isn't "looking after your child"

 

How exactly can I leave it be? If people think that ^ is taking care of a kid, again, what's stopping a kid from crawling into the street while you take a picture of the Empire State Building? New York Traffic, unlike the poor Gorilla, isn't exactly caring about kids

[vla1ne]

There's no argument outside that a hand in a back pocket isn't "looking after your child"

to be fair, children are not known for standing still, it takes all of 2 seconds at most, for a perfectly obedient child to get curious and wander off 4 or 5 feet, and it's rather hard to predict when and where it'l happen. I don't know if those parents were trying to ignore their child, or simply got caught up in a moment, taking their eyes off the child for a second as something else happened, but they don't deserve as much blame as you appear to be placing on them. some blame? sure, forgetting about your kid for even a second around a gorillas cage is  a dumb move, but it happens, and i highly doubt their kid has ever jumped into somewhere this blatantly dangerous before. This was an exceptional (worse case) circumstance brought about by a moment's lapse in awareness, it's not something that they deserve to lose their kid for. we tend to forget that kids don't have the same sense of danger as adults do, so it's reasonable that they didn't expect their kid to actually attempt to get in the cage with the gorilla. the worst thing that usually happens to kids at the zoo is running around and getting a scraped leg or arm.

[chairman ali]

Survival of the fittest; the fittest, however, is who has the gun.

[Progenitor]

There's no argument outside that a hand in a back pocket isn't "looking after your child"

 

How exactly can I leave it be? If people think that ^ is taking care of a kid, again, what's stopping a kid from crawling into the street while you take a picture of the Empire State Building? New York Traffic, unlike the poor Gorilla, isn't exactly caring about kids

sigh Where does it say that was her method of tracking him hmm?  Actually, the fact that she had the idea that her hands were about to be occupied for a few moments, and found a way to still be connected to her child while she took the picture is the sign of a good parent.  Yes, she should have noticed instantly when that hand left her pocket, but that moment of negligence is NOT enough to justify losing their child under the legal definition of "clear and PERSISTENT negligence"

 

so please just stop

[Aerion Brightflame]

Were you selectively reading this article Winter? Because as biased as it is, it makes a few things fairly clear: 

 

…the gorilla did just seem to be protective of the child. It wasn’t until the gorilla became agitated because of the nosey, dramatic, helpless crowd; that the gorilla violently ran with the child! And it was very violent; although I think the gorilla was still trying to protect, we’re taking a 400 lb gorilla throwing a 40 lb toddler around! It was horrific!

 

This takes the situation from being 'Oh they didn't need to shoot the gorilla' to - 'This animal is directly endangering the childs life'. Which serves to justify the actions and makes comments about the Gorilla being a better carer than the Mothers bullshit. 

 

Additionally, it establishes the time frame of potential action was very very short, and that parents were not woefully neglectful. Because the mother was calling for the son before he fell into the enclosure proper. Which means this was a momentary lapse of attention - As much as you want to assign blame for that. This. Happens. 

 

It's not negligence, not on the scale you first insinuated. It was a simple mistake that every parent has made at some point in an environment where they would otherwise assume safety (Which makes your traffic comparison bullshit. Traffic does not have a guardrail that in theory prevents people wandering in front of it. This does, which makes less intense levels of attention more acceptable). 

 

Again - You are making preconceived judgements based on your alleged status as a father. Stop doing so. The parents made a mistake, the Zoo should refine it's security features, and the loss of the Gorilla is sad. That's all the conclusions that need be drawn her till new evidence comes to life. 

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Were you selectively reading this article Winter? Because as biased as it is, it makes a few things fairly clear:

 

 

 

This takes the situation from being 'Oh they didn't need to shoot the gorilla' to - 'This animal is directly endangering the childs life'. Which serves to justify the actions and makes comments about the Gorilla being a better carer than the Mothers bullshit.

 

Additionally, it establishes the time frame of potential action was very very short, and that parents were not woefully neglectful. Because the mother was calling for the son before he fell into the enclosure proper. Which means this was a momentary lapse of attention - As much as you want to assign blame for that. This. Happens.

 

It's not negligence, not on the scale you first insinuated. It was a simple mistake that every parent has made at some point in an environment where they would otherwise assume safety (Which makes your traffic comparison bullshit. Traffic does not have a guardrail that in theory prevents people wandering in front of it. This does, which makes less intense levels of attention more acceptable).

 

Again - You are making preconceived judgements based on your alleged status as a father. Stop doing so. The parents made a mistake, the Zoo should refine it's security features, and the loss of the Gorilla is sad. That's all the conclusions that need be drawn her till new evidence comes to life.

 

"Western lowland gorillas are gentle animals they don't attack unless they're provoked."

 

Witnesses told local television that the boy repeatedly expressed a desire to join the gorilla in the zoo habitat. Moments later, the boy crawled through a barrier and fell about 12 feet (3.7-meters) into a moat surrounding the habitat, where Harambe grabbed him, zoo officials said.

 

That's where I think the "negligence" is That being said, I'm truly apologize to anyone who felt I slighted them or their parents. That was never my intention

[vla1ne]

fair enough, it remains an honest mistake, but yeah, it does cast a bit more negative light on the parents.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

fair enough, it remains an honest mistake, but yeah, it does cast a bit more negative light on the parents.

At worse case she knew what the kid wanted to do, didn't take it seriously, and someone else had to give their life for her digression. This was an endangered specie at the end of the day, and a better parenting could have made a difference

 

Crowd is funking stupid too, shouting and screaming only agitates the creature, up till that point it was being gentle with him.

 

https://www.change.org/p/cincinnati-zoo-justice-for-harambe

 

 

Rest in Peace Harambe

 

I'm sorry you had to pay with your life for human stupidity and negligence