Mask of Restrict in OCG format

[Darj]

Mask of Restrict

Trap Card

Type: Continuous

Neither player can Tribute cards.

 

Prevents Kaijus & Master Peace, and doubles as fodder for Master Peace, except for its tribute Summon while it's active, of course.

The card has been brought up in the past, for example during Qliphort and Nekroz formats, but AFAIK it never was too effective when more useful side deck and meta call cards were available. But could it be its time to shine now?

 

Discuss.

[(GigaDrillBreaker)]

Beyond ASF and mistake, this was probably the best floodgate in the end days of nekroz, especially considering monarchs and Qli were floating around. Either it saw play or I'm terrible.

 

On second thought, it probably didn't see play.

 

As for OP, that seems a little narrow. Attacking specific cards is all around worse than attacking the deck as deck as a whole.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Sadly Drancia outs it. It's dracolord zodiacs and kaiju zodiacs so you're fresh outa luck

[Babymon]

I hate kaijus.

[Darj]

Sadly Drancia outs it. It's dracolord zodiacs and kaiju zodiacs so you're fresh outa luck

 

Yes, but the idea is to play this after you set up your own Drancia and/or Master Peace, locking the opponent from playing their Kaijus and Master Peace, and after that you should be able to just pop the opponent's Zoodiac with Drancia/Peace before it becomes Drancia.

 

And if you don't need it or drew into it too late, you can just Set it and Tribute it for your Master Peace.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Yes, but the idea is to play this after you set up your own Drancia and/or Master Peace, locking the opponent from playing their Kaijus and Master Peace, and after that you should be able to just pop the opponent's Zoodiac with Drancia/Peace before it becomes Drancia.

 

And if you don't need it or drew into it too late, you can just Set it and Tribute it for your Master Peace.

It's not that simple, you'd need to have enough drancias to match their ceiling.

 

The situation:

 

You have Mask up, and x numbers of drancia. They can only summon one drancia by the overlay method, but you need to destroy their zoodiacs before they summon drancia otherwise they can chain and kill mask. At the very least you need to match their ceiling cause a single zodiac can result in drancia. I assume the ceiling is 2-3 sep pathways to a drancia, you're likely not gonna have 3 drancia face up. 

 

If they want mask gone, it's gone

[Darj]

They would need to be very lucky to have a Terrortop, Zoodiac Barrage and a Zoodiac in hand to be able to Summon 3 Zoodiacs in thesame turn to bait your Master Peace and/or Drancia and get rid of Restrict in order to enable their Kaijus/Master Peace. And even then, you forced the opponent to spend his/her resources on your Restrict, so that works to your advantage, too. Restrict at worst will bait Drancia without them being able to resort to their Master Peace and Kaijus right away; at best it may even win you the game right there.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

They would need to be very lucky to have a Terrortop, Zoodiac Barrage and a Zoodiac in hand to be able to Summon 3 Zoodiacs in thesame turn to bait your Master Peace and/or Drancia and get rid of Restrict in order to enable their Kaijus/Master Peace. And even then, you forced the opponent to spend his/her resources on your Restrict, so that works to your advantage, too. Restrict at worst will bait Drancia without them being able to resort to their Master Peace and Kaijus right away; at best it may even win you the game right there.

Or monster reborn. 2 is common enough I'd assume right? What happen if they instead have chalice or BOM?

[Darj]

Or monster reborn. 2 is common enough I'd assume right? What happen if they instead have chalice or BOM?

 

Then you are relying on situational, unsearchable outs. You could say the same about them drawing MST, Cosmic Cyclone, Twin Twisters, etc. to pop the mask.

Then again, this is just as situational, but the difference is that this prevents major plays with Kaijus and Master Peace, while doubling as Tribute fodder for your Master Peace.

[vla1ne]

so far as floodgates, it's both harder and easier to out than emptiness, but if it works, even for one turn, and forces them to waste more than a few resources on it, then you have already gained an advantage, you using 1-2 cards to protect it, will likely result in them wasting 3-4 cards to get around it, and that's before factoring in your established board. restrict's not hard to play around these days, but the fact that you have to play around it in true king/ kaiju. means that you will likely want it gone regardless.

 

overall, not worth too much hype imo, but it may well see decent use, and can work as a turn disruption if you read your opponent right, problem being, there are quite a few better disruption options out there overall.

[Kaiji]

Terrortop is limited anyway, winter is dumb for not noting that the field spell can destroy the true draco spell and proc the mst eff, but the field spell is still vulnerable

[Kaiji]

Like monster reborn hasnt seen play in ages, theres like 0 research being done smh

 

Anyways should be ez to avoid Kaiju by keeping master peace in hand and tributing for the trap during opponents Main phase which triggers a pop on their normal summon; you can flip Restrict afterwards to shut out kaiju.

 

This can also be done if they Set any S/T intending to tribute them which those who think ahead should be doing before comitting their normal.

 

You'd prob want some spell immunity cuz u still susceptible to slumber / that 1 copy of Dark Hole lol in the main, thankfully zoodiac combo provides that with Tenki.

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Kaiji is not only a dumb doubleposter, he's also a blind, condescending, smug, jabroni

 

https://ygorganization.com/ocg-02132017-ocg-japan-china-decklists/

 

Reborn sees plenty of play jackass. It's basically in every deck. How far up your ass is your head? Should have stopped with the post on the field spell boi

[Kaiji]

The next step is to point out which decks actually play Reborn (hint: barely any Zoodiac True Draco)

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

The next step is to point out which decks actually play Reborn (hint: barely any Zoodiac True Draco)

Doesn't matter in the context of what I was talking about. Which is a ceiling bump to confer an opponents drancia. Take the L and walk

 

Like monster reborn hasnt seen play in ages, theres like 0 research being done smh

Anyways should be ez to avoid Kaiju by keeping master peace in hand and tributing for the trap during opponents Main phase which triggers a pop on their normal summon; you can flip Restrict afterwards to shut out kaiju.

This can also be done if they Set any S/T intending to tribute them which those who think ahead should be doing before comitting their normal.

You'd prob want some spell immunity cuz u still susceptible to slumber / that 1 copy of Dark Hole lol in the main, thankfully zoodiac combo provides that with Tenki.

[Kaiji]

No we're def talking about Zodiac True Draco

 

There have been multiple references to Master Peace in Darj's post, though me being unspecific about actual Kaiju Zoodiac is an L

[Ryusei the Morning Star]

Yes, but the idea is to play this after you set up your own Drancia and/or Master Peace, locking the opponent from playing their Kaijus and Master Peace, and after that you should be able to just pop the opponent's Zoodiac with Drancia/Peace before it becomes Drancia.

 

And if you don't need it or drew into it too late, you can just Set it and Tribute it for your Master Peace.

No again. He's talking about after you set up a mask+master/dranc board

 

At which point the ceiling that your opp has in Dranc potential is what determines if mask lives. ie Reborn

 

I was talking to him but on that potential only

[Kaiji]

Ah, then I'll take the L for LACKOFREADINGCOMPREHENSION

[(GigaDrillBreaker)]

Ladies, ladies, you're both pretty.

 

I'd just like to put out a little reminder that the concept of "bait" is inherently flawed. It reminds me a lot of when CDI was a big deal. People would activate raigeki, and when it is negated they would be like "HA, BAITED, NOW I CAN DO WHAT I WANT". Like, of course they would negate that. It doesn't matter what comes next, negating the raigeki was objectively correct.

 

If the opponent is playing correctly, they will destroy MoR out of necessity. If they need it gone to progress their plays, they will destroy it. It wasn't "baited" because destroying MoR was an important step in allowing them to progress their board state/attack the opponent's. If their drancia had a better use, or they didn't need to remove MoR at that time, they wouldn't do so. Basing strategies off of the opponent misplaying is just a really awful plan.

[VCR_CAT]

Ladies, ladies, you're both pretty.

 

I'd just like to put out a little reminder that the concept of "bait" is inherently flawed. It reminds me a lot of when CDI was a big deal. People would activate raigeki, and when it is negated they would be like "HA, BAITED, NOW I CAN DO WHAT I WANT". Like, of course they would negate that. It doesn't matter what comes next, negating the raigeki was objectively correct.

 

If the opponent is playing correctly, they will destroy MoR out of necessity. If they need it gone to progress their plays, they will destroy it. It wasn't "baited" because destroying MoR was an important step in allowing them to progress their board state/attack the opponent's. If their drancia had a better use, or they didn't need to remove MoR at that time, they wouldn't do so. Basing strategies off of the opponent misplaying is just a really awful plan.

 

Proper baiting is when you activate a card or effect that they aren't obligated to negate. As in, something that's not going to guarantee any kind of impact on the gamestate. A real bro's bait is when you put out a play that actually won't go anywhere because you might not have the cards to let it do so but it looks like it will and the opponent eats it up. Those also feel REAL GOOD to do.

[(GigaDrillBreaker)]

Proper baiting is when you activate a card or effect that they aren't obligated to negate. As in, something that's not going to guarantee any kind of impact on the gamestate. A real bro's bait is when you put out a play that actually won't go anywhere because you might not have the cards to let it do so but it looks like it will and the opponent eats it up. Those also feel REAL GOOD to do.

Unless they see what's going on and you ended up using resources on a non-impact play.

 

"Bait" is relying on the opponent to misplay for your tactic to work. This becomes decreasingly effective as skill level around you rises. If it is empirically correct for them to answer your play, it isn't bait, it is a threat.

 

Now, whether or not MoR is a viable threat, I really have no clue. Hell, I only recently found out drancia was a zoodiac, rather than a predator plant, and I still don't know what it does, beyond being difficult to kill and having some kind of SS2 removal effect. I'm literally just arguing semantics/game theory.

[Darj]

Huh, I thought "bait" also applied when pushing the opponent to spend his/her resources in an unplanned way, like the example of Raigeki on CyDra Infinity. I guess I misinterpreted the concept.

Would spending, let's say, Cosmic Cyclone on errata'd Future Fusion be a bait scenario? or a threat scenario?

 

Back to topic, I did overlook that True Draco & variants can play around this by destroying a True Draco Spell with their Field Spell, but also, as Kaiji pointed out, the Field is vulnerable. Reserving Master Peace for the opponent's turn through a True Draco Trap is a cool play, too.

And yes, Monster Reborn is yet another source for a Zoodiac but still, at 1 I wouldn't count too much on the opponent having it at hand.

IDK, since Kaijus are the main threat to Master Peace Zoodiac variants, I thought they could find this card useful to handle better their disadvantageous matchup, while taking advantage of its trait as a Continuous Trap. There aren't many outs or blocks for Kaijus, after all. The other Maindeck-able options are... Emptiness and your own Kaiju?

Hmm... there is Fog King, too.

[Kaiji]

To be fair ygo terminology is pretty here and there so 2 prevent confusion it seem just easier 2 be concise about what u tryna say instead of meme word.

 

Its much easier to compare how many outs they have vs your Anti-Zoodiac cards since if you have more Anti-Zoodiac cards then they have outs than u in the clear (anti zoodiac cards is basically any card that prevents drancia, their out, from hitting the board in the first place which includes your own Drancia, Master Peace quickplay pop and of course Restrict)

 

Thats basically how most T2s of ygo operate

 

Fog King pretty dope but it look like u need Barrage to be able to use your normal summon alongside it. You also need Disciples to tribute Master Peace since Fog King prevents you from using the Trap to drop Master Peace during your opponent turn, which would normally solve having to NS Fog King. Seems pretty doable since only thing limiting you is 3 copies of Barrage (other True Dracos require an additional copy of Disciples/Succession for you to normal Fog King and Rats otherwise take ur Fog King normal)

[Darj]

I see. But still, Fog King seems less beneficial than Restrict. Even if you set it up successfully, with 0/0 stats chance are it won't last long anyway, unless you intent to Tribute a monster for its Summon, somehow. It occurred to me that Fossil Dyna may be more effective: it requires a similar setup to Fog King by needing Barrage to save the Normal Summon for it, but it will stop Kaijus, including Slumber, plus Zoodiac Xyzs, and won't interfere with dropping Peace during the opponent's turn. It won't stop opposing True Dracos though, so I guess one could just side it out vs. True Dracos & variants.

[notcleverusername]

Side note but why doesn't OP mention MONARCH FORMAT when this card was sided basically everywhere (I assume, since I don't usually actually check side decks when I look at decklists)

I at least know for sure I've been sent funny pictures of Monarch mirrors where one of them flipped Mask of Restrict but still somehow got outed so both players basically unable to summon anything for 84 turns or w/e