Babymon Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 I know people talk about Zodiac but how come know one says anything about Frightfur? A deck that consistently FTK in 1 turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 Because they're bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 Because they're bad.Not bad, just not the best. Fusion Enforcers gave them a funk ton to work with, and they have a decent to good amount of early lock potential, plus easy OTKs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 Fluffal is easily my favorite Deck. But are they meta/top-tier worthy? Ehhh...they're probably solid as a rogue Deck, but they're not nearly as flexible or as consistent as I expect other meta Decks are. For one, they don't have much space to run some of the meta S/T lineup without sacrificing something else. And since they're usually an OTK Deck of sorts, it becomes a question of whether to use Deck slots for cards that don't support their power plays, but are otherwise amazing cards (like Solemn Strike. Even if I had copies, I wouldn't run it in Fluffals because they pretty much need all their other support cards), or not using those cards and being a glass cannon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Faytl~ Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 Fluffals lack the ability to recover from shutout plays effectively, like Vanity's Emptiness. Yes, they are VERY explosive, and they can easily OTK if not checked, but the thing is, when your strategy revolves around targeting rmonster effect removal and you need to be able to resolve a Poly or other Fusion spells, there are a lot of opportunities to disrupt and boom, they've blown their resources and can be dead in the water. They're still my favorite deck since Heraldic Beasts, but they aren't top-tier worthy. Absolutely fun, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 Fluffals lack the ability to recover from shutout plays effectively, like Vanity's Emptiness. Yes, they are VERY explosive, and they can easily OTK if not checked, but the thing is, when your strategy revolves around targeting rmonster effect removal and you need to be able to resolve a Poly or other Fusion spells, there are a lot of opportunities to disrupt and boom, they've blown their resources and can be dead in the water. They're still my favorite deck since Heraldic Beasts, but they aren't top-tier worthy. Absolutely fun, though. This. I've noted that my current build literally runs no removal S/Ts, either for backrow or monsters. Tiger and Kraken handle the removal, but they require you to be able to Special Summon. If you can't SS, you literally lose. While this can be true for ANY meta-level Deck, Fluffals have no NATURAL ways to play around this (natural, meaning, that supports their theme). While they could run Twin Twisters or similar to great effect, they don't typically NEED S/T removal most of the time because Tiger does it. Unless that S/T stops them from Fusion Summoning/Special Summoning. Then they're screwed. Also, Fluffals can be "fairly" predictable in their plays. The exact details vary, but their flexibility still revolves around "Fusion Summon a Frightfur, do crazy stuff". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notcleverusername Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 Can you stop making topics until you've actually learned something substantial about this game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 Please tell me you did not just mix up FTK with second turn OTK .. I am sick of that misconception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiji Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 There is no misconception between what are basically 2 made-up words and its super obvious this boi means OTK so it doesn't matter???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~Faytl~ Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 Please tell me you did not just mix up FTK with second turn OTK .. I am sick of that misconception. Uuuuuuuh, literally who cares, it's clearly just a mistake in typing and this has nothing to actually contribute to the conversation? Can you stop making topics until you've actually learned something substantial about this game This doesn't help either. We should ENCOURAGE people trying to broaden their horizons and learn about the game, and asking for opinions from the more experienced on decks and archetypes that interest a new player is as good a way to do it as any. This. I've noted that my current build literally runs no removal S/Ts, either for backrow or monsters. Tiger and Kraken handle the removal, but they require you to be able to Special Summon. If you can't SS, you literally lose. While this can be true for ANY meta-level Deck, Fluffals have no NATURAL ways to play around this (natural, meaning, that supports their theme). While they could run Twin Twisters or similar to great effect, they don't typically NEED S/T removal most of the time because Tiger does it. Unless that S/T stops them from Fusion Summoning/Special Summoning. Then they're screwed. Also, Fluffals can be "fairly" predictable in their plays. The exact details vary, but their flexibility still revolves around "Fusion Summon a Frightfur, do crazy stuff". I do run a Twin Twisters or 2, since usually with all the cards you draw off of Vendor and Wings plays you have a card to spare for the discard, especially if that card is Edge Imp Chain. And yes, Fluffals have fairly telegraphed plays usually, as summoning Tiger or Kraken is almost always their first attempt at starting to make plays that get them towards an OTK, which contributes to making them easier to answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notcleverusername Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 This doesn't help either. We should ENCOURAGE people trying to broaden their horizons and learn about the game, and asking for opinions from the more experienced on decks and archetypes that interest a new player is as good a way to do it as any. I don't mind peeps trying to broaden their horizons and learn about the game but when someone's made 3 topics in the same number of days about how a b c and d are borken I'm pretty sure they're not actually trying to broaden their horizons, they're just looking for validation of their opinion that it's the game's problem, not theirs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delibirb Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 I don't mind peeps trying to broaden their horizons and learn about the game but when someone's made 3 topics in the same number of days about how a b c and d are borken I'm pretty sure they're not actually trying to broaden their horizons, they're just looking for validation of their opinion that it's the game's problem, not theirsA fair point, perhaps, but this still is not the place to make it. A PM with them or reports to moderators, if you think there is reason enough for it, would be sufficient. With regards to the topic, I haven't seen Fluffals much, but I can see where they could have some potential this format. Drancia is the primary fear right now, it seems, and Frightfur Sabre Tiger, done right, ignores that. And as has been mentioned, they can OTK (or FTK, whichever you deem more accurate) with reasonable consistency, and even when they don't, they still have lots of speed and some degree of resilience. I know that the other day I did see a meme regarding the meta (the one where the right column is images of successively higher brain function) and Fluffals were at the highest, over D/D/D, Metalfoes, and Zoodiacs. Now I'm sure their positioning is a joke, but perhaps they are more present than we realize, and simply being overshadowed? I'm uncertain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bringerofcake Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 The biggest problem with Frightfur is TCG rulings at the moment preventing non-sabre tooth fusions from being strikeproof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Highlander Posted February 16, 2017 Report Share Posted February 16, 2017 Nah, Frightfur's biggest problem is the fact that dimensional barrier equals gg against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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