Problamatico Posted July 26, 2023 Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 (edited) Blue-Eyes Dimensional Dragon @Zelse Archer LIGHT Dragon/Link/Effect 1+ "Blue-Eyes" Dragon-type monsters If this card is Link Summoned, you can pay 3000LP; Special Summon monsters with "Blue-Eyes" in their card name equal to the number of Link Materials used to summon this card. Each time your opponent activates a card effect, you can banish one "Blue-Eyes" monster this card points to face-down; negate and destroy that card. ATK: 3000 Edited July 26, 2023 by Problamatico 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted July 26, 2023 Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 1+ "Blue-Eyes" Dragon monster(s) If this card is Link Summoned: You can pay 3000 LP; Special Summon "Blue-Eyes" monsters [from where] equal to the number of Link Materials used to Summon this card. If your opponent activates a card effect: You can banish 1 "Blue-Eyes" monster this card points to face-down; negate that effect, and if you do, destroy that card. (Text fix. The card also needs to specify where it summons the B-E from.) It has a terrifyingly strong reward for summoning, turning a board of a few big monsters into a potential 4-6 monsters + multiple omni-negates. At the same tims it's still generally too hard for B-E to summon. 2 B-E on field? Fairly reasonable. 3? You need pretty specific hands - ones that are pretty susceptible to disruption. Honestly though, for where the deck is, this is fair. The payoff is absolutely disgusting, but I don't think it's possible to consistently perform it on turn 1 and it could be even weaker depending on where it summons the B-E cards from, so I think the card is a good design. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Problamatico Posted July 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Tinkerer said: 1+ "Blue-Eyes" Dragon monster(s) If this card is Link Summoned: You can pay 3000 LP; Special Summon "Blue-Eyes" monsters [from where] equal to the number of Link Materials used to Summon this card. If your opponent activates a card effect: You can banish 1 "Blue-Eyes" monster this card points to face-down; negate that effect, and if you do, destroy that card. (Text fix. The card also needs to specify where it summons the B-E from.) It has a terrifyingly strong reward for summoning, turning a board of a few big monsters into a potential 4-6 monsters + multiple omni-negates. At the same tims it's still generally too hard for B-E to summon. 2 B-E on field? Fairly reasonable. 3? You need pretty specific hands - ones that are pretty susceptible to disruption. Honestly though, for where the deck is, this is fair. The payoff is absolutely disgusting, but I don't think it's possible to consistently perform it on turn 1 and it could be even weaker depending on where it summons the B-E cards from, so I think the card is a good design. I left where it can sp Summon from open on purpose, letting it sp summon from anywhere unless they're banished face-down. But thanks for the criticism. I'll take everything you said into account in future endeavors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Problamatico Posted July 26, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2023 7 hours ago, Tinkerer said: 1+ "Blue-Eyes" Dragon monster(s) If this card is Link Summoned: You can pay 3000 LP; Special Summon "Blue-Eyes" monsters [from where] equal to the number of Link Materials used to Summon this card. If your opponent activates a card effect: You can banish 1 "Blue-Eyes" monster this card points to face-down; negate that effect, and if you do, destroy that card. (Text fix. The card also needs to specify where it summons the B-E from.) It has a terrifyingly strong reward for summoning, turning a board of a few big monsters into a potential 4-6 monsters + multiple omni-negates. At the same tims it's still generally too hard for B-E to summon. 2 B-E on field? Fairly reasonable. 3? You need pretty specific hands - ones that are pretty susceptible to disruption. Honestly though, for where the deck is, this is fair. The payoff is absolutely disgusting, but I don't think it's possible to consistently perform it on turn 1 and it could be even weaker depending on where it summons the B-E cards from, so I think the card is a good design. For instance, let's say you have 3 B-E in hand, polymerization and de-fusion. The field is clear (kinda unlikely). Fusion Summon Neo Ult, de-fusion, link into this. Maybe summon some Maidens? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerer Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 6 hours ago, Problamatico said: I left where it can sp Summon from open on purpose, letting it sp summon from anywhere unless they're banished face-down. But thanks for the criticism. I'll take everything you said into account in future endeavors. So it can Summon from hand, Deck, GY, banished? How about Extra Deck? You still need to clarify on the card itself; players cannot be left to assume. 1 hour ago, Problamatico said: Maybe summon some Maidens? Unfortunately, Maiden isn't a B-E monster. You wouldn't be able to Summon her. My thought was once you managed to Summon 1 of these, you could Link into a second and Special Summon a 4th B-E monster. At that point you'd be down 6k LP but you'd have 5 big dragons alongside 3 omni-negates. Extremely strong, but again, inconsistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Problamatico Posted July 27, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 26 minutes ago, Tinkerer said: So it can Summon from hand, Deck, GY, banished? How about Extra Deck? You still need to clarify on the card itself; players cannot be left to assume. Unfortunately, Maiden isn't a B-E monster. You wouldn't be able to Summon her. My thought was once you managed to Summon 1 of these, you could Link into a second and Special Summon a 4th B-E monster. At that point you'd be down 6k LP but you'd have 5 big dragons alongside 3 omni-negates. Extremely strong, but again, inconsistent. Point taken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nethersoul Posted July 27, 2023 Report Share Posted July 27, 2023 It would be the OTK. If there is not a write "Once per turn" it must be the Overpower monster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelse Archer Posted August 2, 2023 Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 On 7/25/2023 at 8:50 PM, Problamatico said: Blue-Eyes Dimensional Dragon @Zelse Archer LIGHT Dragon/Link/Effect 1+ "Blue-Eyes" Dragon-type monsters If this card is Link Summoned, you can pay 3000LP; Special Summon monsters with "Blue-Eyes" in their card name equal to the number of Link Materials used to summon this card. Each time your opponent activates a card effect, you can banish one "Blue-Eyes" monster this card points to face-down; negate and destroy that card. ATK: 3000 Cool art. The effect is gonna see some hell. If you don't mind, do you think I can erata this to make it a bit better? With permission of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Problamatico Posted August 2, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 2, 2023 7 hours ago, Zelse Archer said: Cool art. The effect is gonna see some hell. If you don't mind, do you think I can erata this to make it a bit better? With permission of course. Sure. Tinkerer already did his, but I'd like to see how you'd make it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelse Archer Posted August 3, 2023 Report Share Posted August 3, 2023 15 hours ago, Problamatico said: Sure. Tinkerer already did his, but I'd like to see how you'd make it. Fixed it for ya! I made it a bit less stronger, but still viable, I think. Blue-Eyes Dimensional Dragon LIGHT Dragon ATK/ 3000 3-Link: BL, B, BR 2+ Level 8 "Blue-Eyes" Dragon-type monsters If this monster is Link Summoned, you can pay half your LP to Special Summon from your GY or deck Level 8 "Blue-Eyes" Dragon-type monsters with their effects negated; they must be where this card points. You cannot Special Summon after activating this effect. When your opponent activates a card effect, you can banish one of the monsters co-linked to this card and negate the effect, and if you do, banish it. You can only activate this effect if this points to a Level 8 monster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Problamatico Posted August 3, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 3, 2023 10 hours ago, Zelse Archer said: Fixed it for ya! I made it a bit less stronger, but still viable, I think. Blue-Eyes Dimensional Dragon LIGHT Dragon ATK/ 3000 3-Link: BL, B, BR 2+ Level 8 "Blue-Eyes" Dragon-type monsters If this monster is Link Summoned, you can pay half your LP to Special Summon from your GY or deck Level 8 "Blue-Eyes" Dragon-type monsters with their effects negated; they must be where this card points. You cannot Special Summon after activating this effect. When your opponent activates a card effect, you can banish one of the monsters co-linked to this card and negate the effect, and if you do, banish it. You can only activate this effect if this points to a Level 8 monster. Your errata needs some PSCT. Co-linking only works if there are two or more LINK monsters set up where they have arrows pointing at each other. Non-link monsters don't co- link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted August 5, 2023 Report Share Posted August 5, 2023 Being a Blue-Eyes-specific card keeps it somewhat doable, but I'm gonna argue that this doesn't really sound too OK design-wise. Once the payoff to Summon it is fulfilled, it basically revives the 3 materials used (or better monsters if you have more to choose from), making the Link Summon essentially free. Then you can Link Summon a second copy using the first one and get an extra revive for a 1-material Link 3 Summon, and if you can do something about the LP cost you can immediately bring the third copy from the Extra and get you a 5th Blue-Eyes Summon onto you Main Monster Zones. After which you'll have the Jet Dragon helping you protect things on top of 3 omni negates. That doesn't sound like it is gonna break the meta because we are talking about Blue-Eyes, but it also still sounds a bit abusive once you pull off the 3 initial materials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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