ragnarok1945 Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 Won't be able to escape his sentence in a 6x8 room? If you wanted to bad enough' date=' you can kill yourself by ramming your head into a wall, like what they have in the prisons, hard enough to break your neck or crush your skull.[/quote'] Well obviously he's going to be monitored inside the cell, I doubt the security guards will be dumb enough to simply ignore him all together It only takes 1 or 2 good trys. He'll be dead before the guard can get his keys out. Well we could also just chain him up and to the floor in the cell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jericho Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 Won't be able to escape his sentence in a 6x8 room? If you wanted to bad enough' date=' you can kill yourself by ramming your head into a wall, like what they have in the prisons, hard enough to break your neck or crush your skull.[/quote'] Well obviously he's going to be monitored inside the cell, I doubt the security guards will be dumb enough to simply ignore him all together It only takes 1 or 2 good trys. He'll be dead before the guard can get his keys out. Well we could also just chain him up and to the floor in the cell. 1. He could sue for cruel and unusual punishment.2. That's why Mental Institutions have padded walls, which is exactly where he should be. But this is all hypothetical, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 7, 2008 Report Share Posted December 7, 2008 well we could set up a special padded wall cell for him, you know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jericho Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Then he or his family would argue that he should be in a mental institution. And if the prison would have to pad the cell anyway, the judge would more than likely send him to the institution, which have stricter rules for people in padded rooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 which we can then argue back and use the evidence to prove he's not really insane, we're just doing this so he can't take the easy way out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jericho Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Where is this evidence of his lack of insanity? If they were going to pad the room, the district psychologist would have had to declared him mentally unsound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 *shrugs* once you bug the cell room, you'll get the evidence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Lovegood Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Just thought of something. Should failed suicide be illigal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarbleZone Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 This has decayed into senseless blabbering. @Duff: "Hands behind your head! You are charged with being incompetent to the point of failing to kill yourself. Anything you say can and will be used against you in court of Law." See what I did there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 Just thought of something. Should failed suicide be illigal? Why? You're not harming anyone else, so they should let you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jericho Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Just thought of something. Should failed suicide be illigal? Why? You're not harming anyone else' date=' so they should let you go.[/quote'] My thoughts exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Now, if on the other hand you failed a suicide and ended up killing another person because of this, that's something completely different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2sick4u Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Now' date=' if on the other hand you failed a suicide and ended up killing another person because of this, that's something completely different[/quote'] I would find it very kind of you if you could explain to me how exactly killing yourself, successfully or not, results in the death of another person. Directly speaking. Please, enlighten me to the point of understanding your logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 On a very extreme example, let's say you were going to shoot yourself and you were a VERY bad shot, and you did it in public Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jericho Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Well if you are such a bad shot you can't get the gun in your mouth, you really suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2sick4u Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Both reasoning that one would openly kill themselves in public, as well as one that's in an obvious state of depression being able to buy a firearm, is so obviously flawed. If one were to simply raise a gun into one's mouth in public, I highly doubt those around them would continue to not actually give a damn. However, in the odd chance that the world wouldn't, I'd like to know how one would plan to fire a gun into their own skull, but actually pull the trigger before securing the gun in more of a suicidal position. I'm rambling a little, so I'll summarize what I'm saying, just for you. Congratulations! You're wrong. On another note, I almost get the strangest feeling that what you post is not much more than what you think people want to here, Ragnarok. Whether what your trying to say is absolutely retarded, (Case n' point, what happened here.) or not. Unfortunately enough, you often seem to lop-side into sounding like a Citizen of Arr-country as apposed to actually having something of a debatable nature to contribute. Yeah. Try posting less, since posting less does mean you have less opinions that can be proven wrong. Which, for you, is a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Lovegood Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 # kill intentionally and with premeditation; "The mafia boss ordered his enemies murdered"# mangle: alter so as to make unrecognizable; "The tourists murdered the French language"# unlawful premeditated killing of a human being by a human being Suicide is classified as murder, by these definitions o.O, So Attempted Suicide=Attempted Murder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 # kill intentionally and with premeditation; "The mafia boss ordered his enemies murdered"# mangle: alter so as to make unrecognizable; "The tourists murdered the French language"# unlawful premeditated killing of a human being by a human being Suicide is classified as murder' date=' by these definitions o.O, So Attempted Suicide=Attempted Murder?[/quote'] How can attempted murder and attempted suicide be the same thing if your attempted suicide doesn't harm anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarbleZone Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 Okay Duffman, now you're just desperately trying to create discussion, this is ridiculous. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 9, 2008 Report Share Posted December 9, 2008 the bottom line Blackwind, is the fact that as long as you don't harm anyone else (at least physically, emotionally is another matter), suicide is something you have the final word on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexh Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 My answer:no it's a stupid idea cause you only get one life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 then wouldn't be people who believe in reincarnation say yes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusofChaos™ Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Rights? Rights? Right are moralistic construct thought up by an oppressive government. Todays rights are based on morals which are based on the christian religion. I am an atheist an therefore have no need for rights and morals and therefore and construct my own. Right and Wrong dont exist, if you open your mind you will understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragnarok1945 Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 I know right and wrong don't exist because that's only perspectives, but it doesn't change the fact than when you attempt to build a consensus, some will follow you and some will not. When you're doing that you can only open your mind so much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apukohi Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 If people are retarded enough to want to commit suicide, let them. Besides, everyone gets next lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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