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Yes. Meta Knight is the best characer in game' date=' while CF the worse.

After a full spring and summer of competition, the SBR felt as though it was time to take the first stab at a tier list for Brawl. Before I post it, let me remind you all of a few important things:

 

 

1. Tier placement doesn't necessarily reflect your ability to beat your friends with a specific character. You might beat your friend's Metaknight with Sonic, but that doesn't mean Sonic is top tier. It means you win that matchup against your friend. Tiers are not absolute measurements of match outcomes.

 

2. Instead of measuring match outcomes, tiers are more a measurement of potential of characters against the rest of the cast in a competitive, 1v1 tournament environment. It shows general strength of a character's abilities in a specific tournament environment. So yes, maybe Yoshi is a beast in teams or Ganon is REALLY good with items turned on... but this list measures somethingd different than those things.

 

3. This list is based on a combination of tournament result data, extensive discussions with top players and tournament hosts and looking at general trends in play in the current competitive metagame. It took a lot of work on the part of some of the best minds in Smash to compile this list.

 

4. This list might change with time. It is based on how we perceive the game to be and play it competitively NOW. However, if a replacement for l-canceling is discovered or new tactics cause the game to evolve over time, this list could change. So if you main a character that isn't near the top, keep playing and evolving their game. You might be the one, like Chu Dat's Ice Climbers back in Melee, that cause people's opinions to change.

 

5. That said, don't give up hope! Just because your character isn't ranked at or near the top, doesn't mean you can't do fantastic things with them with enough talent and effort. We do not publish this list to encourage players to change their main tournament character. If anything, it should serve as a challenge to take the game to the next level.

 

6. In Smash, any character can win in any matchup if you are smarter and better than your opponents by a wide enough margin. So keep playing to win and work hard to be the best player you can be, regardless of which character you use.

 

 

And without further ado, I present to you the official SBR Brawl Tier List (v1.0):

Luas is so low because he has slow weak moves, for the most part, and has poor matchups and tourney rankings.

Chain grabs and laggy Smashes, probably?

Dude, their are no chain grabs. >_>. I thought I told you that?

No, you didn't.......

 

And don't say that you did, cuz I know you didn't. Ever. Not at all. Explain, plz?

I know I did.

 

What ever.

 

Turns out none of it was true, and now when I bring it up I treat it as a joke.

1) I'm 100% positive you never mentioned it to me. Never.

2) Again, 100% positive.

3) Explain in detail, plz. Cuz I still don't get it.

IDK. Just turns out that it wasn't as bad as most people said it was.

I kinda had a feeling about it when I tried to "chain grab" Lucas with Dedede, but had a hard time pulling it off. Either that, or I was doing it wrong.

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Yes. Meta Knight is the best characer in game' date=' while CF the worse.

After a full spring and summer of competition, the SBR felt as though it was time to take the first stab at a tier list for Brawl. Before I post it, let me remind you all of a few important things:

 

 

1. Tier placement doesn't necessarily reflect your ability to beat your friends with a specific character. You might beat your friend's Metaknight with Sonic, but that doesn't mean Sonic is top tier. It means you win that matchup against your friend. Tiers are not absolute measurements of match outcomes.

 

2. Instead of measuring match outcomes, tiers are more a measurement of potential of characters against the rest of the cast in a competitive, 1v1 tournament environment. It shows general strength of a character's abilities in a specific tournament environment. So yes, maybe Yoshi is a beast in teams or Ganon is REALLY good with items turned on... but this list measures somethingd different than those things.

 

3. This list is based on a combination of tournament result data, extensive discussions with top players and tournament hosts and looking at general trends in play in the current competitive metagame. It took a lot of work on the part of some of the best minds in Smash to compile this list.

 

4. This list might change with time. It is based on how we perceive the game to be and play it competitively NOW. However, if a replacement for l-canceling is discovered or new tactics cause the game to evolve over time, this list could change. So if you main a character that isn't near the top, keep playing and evolving their game. You might be the one, like Chu Dat's Ice Climbers back in Melee, that cause people's opinions to change.

 

5. That said, don't give up hope! Just because your character isn't ranked at or near the top, doesn't mean you can't do fantastic things with them with enough talent and effort. We do not publish this list to encourage players to change their main tournament character. If anything, it should serve as a challenge to take the game to the next level.

 

6. In Smash, any character can win in any matchup if you are smarter and better than your opponents by a wide enough margin. So keep playing to win and work hard to be the best player you can be, regardless of which character you use.

 

 

And without further ado, I present to you the official SBR Brawl Tier List (v1.0):

Luas is so low because he has slow weak moves, for the most part, and has poor matchups and tourney rankings.

Chain grabs and laggy Smashes, probably?

Dude, their are no chain grabs. >_>. I thought I told you that?

No, you didn't.......

 

And don't say that you did, cuz I know you didn't. Ever. Not at all. Explain, plz?

I know I did.

 

What ever.

 

Turns out none of it was true, and now when I bring it up I treat it as a joke.

1) I'm 100% positive you never mentioned it to me. Never.

2) Again, 100% positive.

3) Explain in detail, plz. Cuz I still don't get it.

IDK. Just turns out that it wasn't as bad as most people said it was.

I kinda had a feeling about it when I tried to "chain grab" Lucas with Dedede, but had a hard time pulling it off. Either that, or I was doing it wrong.

You were doing it wrong.

 

But chain grabs are VERY' date=' I MEAN VERY easy to get out of dude. Just rapidly do your down dodge. You know, The one where you dodge but don't move

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If done the right way at low %s it is very hard for most characters to get out of. This is part of why Dedede is 3rd.

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Yes. Meta Knight is the best characer in game' date=' while CF the worse.

After a full spring and summer of competition, the SBR felt as though it was time to take the first stab at a tier list for Brawl. Before I post it, let me remind you all of a few important things:

 

 

1. Tier placement doesn't necessarily reflect your ability to beat your friends with a specific character. You might beat your friend's Metaknight with Sonic, but that doesn't mean Sonic is top tier. It means you win that matchup against your friend. Tiers are not absolute measurements of match outcomes.

 

2. Instead of measuring match outcomes, tiers are more a measurement of potential of characters against the rest of the cast in a competitive, 1v1 tournament environment. It shows general strength of a character's abilities in a specific tournament environment. So yes, maybe Yoshi is a beast in teams or Ganon is REALLY good with items turned on... but this list measures somethingd different than those things.

 

3. This list is based on a combination of tournament result data, extensive discussions with top players and tournament hosts and looking at general trends in play in the current competitive metagame. It took a lot of work on the part of some of the best minds in Smash to compile this list.

 

4. This list might change with time. It is based on how we perceive the game to be and play it competitively NOW. However, if a replacement for l-canceling is discovered or new tactics cause the game to evolve over time, this list could change. So if you main a character that isn't near the top, keep playing and evolving their game. You might be the one, like Chu Dat's Ice Climbers back in Melee, that cause people's opinions to change.

 

5. That said, don't give up hope! Just because your character isn't ranked at or near the top, doesn't mean you can't do fantastic things with them with enough talent and effort. We do not publish this list to encourage players to change their main tournament character. If anything, it should serve as a challenge to take the game to the next level.

 

6. In Smash, any character can win in any matchup if you are smarter and better than your opponents by a wide enough margin. So keep playing to win and work hard to be the best player you can be, regardless of which character you use.

 

 

And without further ado, I present to you the official SBR Brawl Tier List (v1.0):

Luas is so low because he has slow weak moves, for the most part, and has poor matchups and tourney rankings.

Chain grabs and laggy Smashes, probably?

Dude, their are no chain grabs. >_>. I thought I told you that?

No, you didn't.......

 

And don't say that you did, cuz I know you didn't. Ever. Not at all. Explain, plz?

I know I did.

 

What ever.

 

Turns out none of it was true, and now when I bring it up I treat it as a joke.

1) I'm 100% positive you never mentioned it to me. Never.

2) Again, 100% positive.

3) Explain in detail, plz. Cuz I still don't get it.

IDK. Just turns out that it wasn't as bad as most people said it was.

I kinda had a feeling about it when I tried to "chain grab" Lucas with Dedede, but had a hard time pulling it off. Either that, or I was doing it wrong.

You were doing it wrong.

I thought so.

 

Now we wait for the people to say "Y IS IKE ONLY MID TIER??!! HE IZ SUPAH POWAH.

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Yes. Meta Knight is the best characer in game' date=' while CF the worse.

After a full spring and summer of competition, the SBR felt as though it was time to take the first stab at a tier list for Brawl. Before I post it, let me remind you all of a few important things:

 

 

1. Tier placement doesn't necessarily reflect your ability to beat your friends with a specific character. You might beat your friend's Metaknight with Sonic, but that doesn't mean Sonic is top tier. It means you win that matchup against your friend. Tiers are not absolute measurements of match outcomes.

 

2. Instead of measuring match outcomes, tiers are more a measurement of potential of characters against the rest of the cast in a competitive, 1v1 tournament environment. It shows general strength of a character's abilities in a specific tournament environment. So yes, maybe Yoshi is a beast in teams or Ganon is REALLY good with items turned on... but this list measures somethingd different than those things.

 

3. This list is based on a combination of tournament result data, extensive discussions with top players and tournament hosts and looking at general trends in play in the current competitive metagame. It took a lot of work on the part of some of the best minds in Smash to compile this list.

 

4. This list might change with time. It is based on how we perceive the game to be and play it competitively NOW. However, if a replacement for l-canceling is discovered or new tactics cause the game to evolve over time, this list could change. So if you main a character that isn't near the top, keep playing and evolving their game. You might be the one, like Chu Dat's Ice Climbers back in Melee, that cause people's opinions to change.

 

5. That said, don't give up hope! Just because your character isn't ranked at or near the top, doesn't mean you can't do fantastic things with them with enough talent and effort. We do not publish this list to encourage players to change their main tournament character. If anything, it should serve as a challenge to take the game to the next level.

 

6. In Smash, any character can win in any matchup if you are smarter and better than your opponents by a wide enough margin. So keep playing to win and work hard to be the best player you can be, regardless of which character you use.

 

 

And without further ado, I present to you the official SBR Brawl Tier List (v1.0):

Luas is so low because he has slow weak moves, for the most part, and has poor matchups and tourney rankings.

Chain grabs and laggy Smashes, probably?

Dude, their are no chain grabs. >_>. I thought I told you that?

No, you didn't.......

 

And don't say that you did, cuz I know you didn't. Ever. Not at all. Explain, plz?

I know I did.

 

What ever.

 

Turns out none of it was true, and now when I bring it up I treat it as a joke.

1) I'm 100% positive you never mentioned it to me. Never.

2) Again, 100% positive.

3) Explain in detail, plz. Cuz I still don't get it.

IDK. Just turns out that it wasn't as bad as most people said it was.

I kinda had a feeling about it when I tried to "chain grab" Lucas with Dedede, but had a hard time pulling it off. Either that, or I was doing it wrong.

You were doing it wrong.

I thought so.

 

Now we wait for the people to say "Y IS IKE ONLY MID TIER??!! HE IZ SUPAH POWAH.

To bad most people have forgotten about this thread.

 

Also IKE IZ SUPAH POWAH. He's just slow as all hell.

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Yes. Meta Knight is the best characer in game' date=' while CF the worse.

After a full spring and summer of competition, the SBR felt as though it was time to take the first stab at a tier list for Brawl. Before I post it, let me remind you all of a few important things:

 

 

1. Tier placement doesn't necessarily reflect your ability to beat your friends with a specific character. You might beat your friend's Metaknight with Sonic, but that doesn't mean Sonic is top tier. It means you win that matchup against your friend. Tiers are not absolute measurements of match outcomes.

 

2. Instead of measuring match outcomes, tiers are more a measurement of potential of characters against the rest of the cast in a competitive, 1v1 tournament environment. It shows general strength of a character's abilities in a specific tournament environment. So yes, maybe Yoshi is a beast in teams or Ganon is REALLY good with items turned on... but this list measures somethingd different than those things.

 

3. This list is based on a combination of tournament result data, extensive discussions with top players and tournament hosts and looking at general trends in play in the current competitive metagame. It took a lot of work on the part of some of the best minds in Smash to compile this list.

 

4. This list might change with time. It is based on how we perceive the game to be and play it competitively NOW. However, if a replacement for l-canceling is discovered or new tactics cause the game to evolve over time, this list could change. So if you main a character that isn't near the top, keep playing and evolving their game. You might be the one, like Chu Dat's Ice Climbers back in Melee, that cause people's opinions to change.

 

5. That said, don't give up hope! Just because your character isn't ranked at or near the top, doesn't mean you can't do fantastic things with them with enough talent and effort. We do not publish this list to encourage players to change their main tournament character. If anything, it should serve as a challenge to take the game to the next level.

 

6. In Smash, any character can win in any matchup if you are smarter and better than your opponents by a wide enough margin. So keep playing to win and work hard to be the best player you can be, regardless of which character you use.

 

 

And without further ado, I present to you the official SBR Brawl Tier List (v1.0):

Luas is so low because he has slow weak moves, for the most part, and has poor matchups and tourney rankings.

Chain grabs and laggy Smashes, probably?

Dude, their are no chain grabs. >_>. I thought I told you that?

No, you didn't.......

 

And don't say that you did, cuz I know you didn't. Ever. Not at all. Explain, plz?

I know I did.

 

What ever.

 

Turns out none of it was true, and now when I bring it up I treat it as a joke.

1) I'm 100% positive you never mentioned it to me. Never.

2) Again, 100% positive.

3) Explain in detail, plz. Cuz I still don't get it.

IDK. Just turns out that it wasn't as bad as most people said it was.

I kinda had a feeling about it when I tried to "chain grab" Lucas with Dedede, but had a hard time pulling it off. Either that, or I was doing it wrong.

You were doing it wrong.

I thought so.

 

Now we wait for the people to say "Y IS IKE ONLY MID TIER??!! HE IZ SUPAH POWAH.

To bad most people have forgotten about this thread.

 

Also IKE IZ SUPAH POWAH. He's just slow as all hell.

Not to mention bad recovery.

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THE BRAWL TIER LIST IS HERE!

 

SSBB Tiers

Top

1. Meta Knight

2. Snake

3. King Dedede

4. Mr. Game & Watch

5. Falco

6. R.O.B.

 

High

7. Marth

8. Wario

9. Lucario

10. Donkey Kong

11. Diddy Kong

12. Pikachu

13. Ice Climbers

14. Kirby

15. Pit

16. Wolf

 

Middle

17. Toon Link

18. Olimar

19. Fox

20. Zelda

21. Zero Suit Samus

22. Bowser

23. Luigi

24. Peach

25. Ike

26. Sheik

 

Low

27. Lucas

28. Ness

29. Mario

30. Pokémon Trainer

31. Samus

32. Yoshi

33. Sonic

34. Jigglypuff

35. Ganondorf

36. Link

37. Captain Falcon

 

Win <3

 

 

I'm just sad that Toon Link is so low.

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THE BRAWL TIER LIST IS HERE!

 

SSBB Tiers

Top

1. Ike

2. Yoshi

3. Snake

4. Meta Knight

5. Mr. Game and Watch

6. Kirby

 

High

7. Marth

8. Wario

9. Lucario

10. Donkey Kong

11. Diddy Kong

12. Pikachu

13. Ice Climbers

14. Falco

15. Pit

16. Wolf

 

Middle

17. Toon Link

18. Olimar

19. Fox

20. Zelda

21. Zero Suit Samus

22. Bowser

23. Luigi

24. Peach

25. King Dedede

26. Sheik

 

Low

27. Lucas

28. Ness

29. Mario

30. Pokémon Trainer

31. Samus

32. R.O.B.

33. Sonic

34. Jigglypuff

35. Ganondorf

36. Link

37. Captain Falcon

Hey, my best character: Ike, in middle tier!?!?!?!?!?? And it's not nice to dislike Yoshi like that.

And WTF with ROB in the tops.

pS: I changed the list!!! LOL

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^Wow that's pathetic to change the tier list by yourself according to you. Face it, Ike is middle tier because he's slow, moves take a while, and his recovery is horrific. ROB is Top Tier because he's an awesome character, has an insanely strong spike, good projectiles, and GREAT recovery, all unlike Ike. Ike is just strong.....that's it...

 

Yeah, and tier lists aren't based on how good YOU are with a character. It's based off of how good the character is himself against other characters. That's why G&W and Falco were top tier :)

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THE BRAWL TIER LIST IS HERE!

 

SSBB Tiers

Top

1. Meta Knight

2. Snake

3. King Dedede

4. Mr. Game & Watch

5. Falco (lol)

6. R.O.B.

 

High

7. Marth

8. Wario

9. Lucario

10. Donkey Kong

11. Diddy Kong

12. Pikachu

13. Ice Climbers

14. Kirby

15. Pit (no surprise)

16. Wolf

 

Middle

17. Toon Link

18. Olimar

19. Fox

20. Zelda

21. Zero Suit Samus

22. Bowser

23. Luigi (?????)

24. Peach

25. Ike

26. Sheik

 

Low

27. Lucas

28. Ness

29. Mario

30. Pokémon Trainer

31. Samus

32. Yoshi

33. Sonic

34. Jigglypuff

35. Ganondorf

36. Link

37. Captain Falcon

 

Win <3

 

 

I'm just sad that Luigi is so low.

 

Fix'd

 

~Xemnas

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THE BRAWL TIER LIST IS HERE!

 

SSBB Tiers

Top

1. Ike

2. Yoshi

3. Snake

4. Meta Knight

5. Mr. Game and Watch

6. Kirby

 

High

7. Marth

8. Wario

9. Lucario

10. Donkey Kong

11. Diddy Kong

12. Pikachu

13. Ice Climbers

14. Falco

15. Pit

16. Wolf

 

Middle

17. Toon Link

18. Olimar

19. Fox

20. Zelda

21. Zero Suit Samus

22. Bowser

23. Luigi

24. Peach

25. King Dedede

26. Sheik

 

Low

27. Lucas

28. Ness

29. Mario

30. Pokémon Trainer

31. Samus

32. R.O.B.

33. Sonic

34. Jigglypuff

35. Ganondorf

36. Link

37. Captain Falcon

Hey' date=' my best character: Ike, in middle tier!?!?!?!?!?? And it's not nice to dislike Yoshi like that.

And WTF with ROB in the tops.

pS: I changed the list!!! LOL

[/quote']

ROFLs @ Ike 4 top tier & R.O.B. 4 low tier. And Dedede for mid tier.

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THE BRAWL TIER LIST IS HERE!

 

SSBB Tiers

Top

1. Ike

2. Yoshi

3. Snake

4. Meta Knight

5. Mr. Game and Watch

6. Kirby

 

High

7. Marth

8. Wario

9. Lucario

10. Donkey Kong

11. Diddy Kong

12. Pikachu

13. Ice Climbers

14. Falco

15. Pit

16. Wolf

 

Middle

17. Toon Link

18. Olimar

19. Fox

20. Zelda

21. Zero Suit Samus

22. Bowser

23. Luigi

24. Peach

25. King Dedede

26. Sheik

 

Low

27. Lucas

28. Ness

29. Mario

30. Pokémon Trainer

31. Samus

32. R.O.B.

33. Sonic

34. Jigglypuff

35. Ganondorf

36. Link

37. Captain Falcon

Hey' date=' my best character: Ike, in middle tier!?!?!?!?!?? And it's not nice to dislike Yoshi like that.

And WTF with ROB in the tops.

pS: I changed the list!!! LOL

[/quote']

ROFLs @ Ike 4 top tier & R.O.B. 4 low tier. And Dedede for mid tier.

 

Who the Frunk made this? *loads gun*

 

~Xemnas

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THE BRAWL TIER LIST IS HERE!

 

SSBB Tiers

Top

1. Meta Knight

2. Snake

3. King Dedede

4. Mr. Game & Watch

5. Falco (lol)

6. R.O.B.

 

High

7. Marth

8. Wario

9. Lucario

10. Donkey Kong

11. Diddy Kong

12. Pikachu

13. Ice Climbers

14. Kirby

15. Pit (no surprise)

16. Wolf

 

Middle

17. Toon Link

18. Olimar

19. Fox

20. Zelda

21. Zero Suit Samus

22. Bowser

23. Luigi (?????)

24. Peach

25. Ike

26. Sheik

 

Low

27. Lucas

28. Ness

29. Mario

30. Pokémon Trainer

31. Samus

32. Yoshi

33. Sonic

34. Jigglypuff

35. Ganondorf

36. Link

37. Captain Falcon

 

Win <3

 

 

I'm just sad that Luigi is so low.

 

Fix'd

 

~Xemnas

 

Lol yeah. Forgot Luigi.

 

Luigi's Final Smash+Up Special=Fun.

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I HAVE THE GAME AND HAVE UNLOCKED ALL 35 FIGHTERS AND 254 SONGS ITS SO AWESOME


I BEAT TABOO ON HARD HIS WAVE ATTACK WUS SICK!!

 

That's nice.

 

 

Does capp'S lock make you important?

 

Yes, Tabuu's Wave is deadly. But carefully exacuted Dodging can overcome this simple problem.

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THE BRAWL TIER LIST IS HERE!

 

SSBB Tiers

Top

1. Meta Knight

2. Snake

3. King Dedede

4. Mr. Game & Watch

5. Falco (lol)

6. R.O.B.

 

High

7. Marth

8. Wario

9. Lucario

10. Donkey Kong

11. Diddy Kong

12. Pikachu

13. Ice Climbers

14. Kirby

15. Pit (no surprise)

16. Wolf

 

Middle

17. Toon Link

18. Olimar

19. Fox

20. Zelda

21. Zero Suit Samus

22. Bowser

23. Luigi (?????)

24. Peach

25. Ike

26. Sheik

 

Low

27. Lucas

28. Ness

29. Mario

30. Pokémon Trainer

31. Samus

32. Yoshi

33. Sonic

34. Jigglypuff

35. Ganondorf

36. Link

37. Captain Falcon

 

Win <3

 

 

I'm just sad that Luigi is so low.

 

Fix'd

 

~Xemnas

 

Lol yeah. Forgot Luigi.

 

Luigi's Final Smash+Up Special=WIN.

 

XD Fix'd again.

 

~Xemmy

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^Wow that's pathetic to change the tier list by yourself according to you. Face it' date=' Ike is middle tier because he's slow, moves take a while, and his recovery is horrific. ROB is Top Tier because he's an awesome character, has an insanely strong spike, good projectiles, and GREAT recovery, all unlike Ike. Ike is just strong.....that's it...

 

Yeah, and tier lists aren't based on how good YOU are with a character. It's based off of how good the character is himself against other characters. That's why G&W and Falco were top tier :)

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Ike's smash attacks kill people when they have like 40 damage. He might be slow, but he's easily the most powerful character and his Final Smash owns (that is, if you know HOW to use it correctly. I do. I rarely miss.)

R.O.B. sucks eggs. His final smash sucks and all is other attacks are extremely innacurate. Face it, R.O.B. sucks, pretty much everyone in my grade at my school thinks so.

 

Don't get me wrong, I'm good with Falco and GW, I'm happy there on the list. I was just saying that some other characters should of placed higher. Like Ike and Yoshi. Yoshi you can be EXTREMELY cheap with. The only character I 100% agree with of being on the tops is Meta Knight.

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He might be slow' date=' but he's easily the most powerful character and his Final Smash owns (that is, if you know HOW to use it correctly. I do. I rarely miss.)

[b'] King DeDeDe is much, much stronger. Rarley missing with a Final Smash is special, isn't it?[/b]

R.O.B. sucks eggs. His final smash sucks and all is other attacks are extremely innacurate.

His final smash rocks and has a never ending glitch. R.O.B.'s recovery kicks ass.

 

Face it, R.O.B. sucks, pretty much everyone in my grade at my school thinks so.

You sir, are an idiot. Your oppion does not make R.O.B. suck. He clearly destroys Ike and a lot of other characters in several areas.

 

I was just saying

that some other characters should of placed higher. Like Ike and Yoshi. Yoshi you can be EXTREMELY cheap with.

Ike is slow and has sheet for recovery. Yoshi is moderatly slow and has crap for moves, this being said does not mean you cannot be good with Yoshi, it just means him being useful in battle is very rare.

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I HAVE THE GAME AND HAVE UNLOCKED ALL 35 FIGHTERS AND 254 SONGS ITS SO AWESOME


I BEAT TABOO ON HARD HIS WAVE ATTACK WUS SICK!!

 

That's nice.

 

 

Does capp'S lock make you important?

 

Yes' date=' Tabuu's Wave is deadly. But carefully exacuted Dodging can overcome this simple problem.

[/quote']

 

DUHH, ALL CAPITOLIS LETERS MAKE YOU MOAR SMARTERER

 

Yeah, The 3 rolls are hard to time perfectly.

Once you get the hang of it, it's pretty simple.

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