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[Guest Supreme Gamesmaster]

According to North Korean officials' date=' they will only completely disarm their nukes if US also disarm all of theirs. I think that other countries will continue producing nukes if they still know that there is another country with that "edge".

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that's not going to happen. During the height of the nuclear weapons race, the US and USSR never agreed to dismantle ALL of their weapons. They still need it in case another country chooses to go to nuclear war

And thus, in our own pride & prestige, the human race will destroy only themselves...what a tragic end for us to be ended by our own creations...

 

Hey, we ARE our greatest enemy, this saying has been true LONG before the time of nuclear weapons.

 

In the nuclear world we may just destroy ourselves faster and nothing more.

 

Well the logical answer is for me to take over the world. Then we'd become one big happy empire. :D

 

But seriously, barring global unification, I don't ever see an end to nuclear threat.

 

All empires crumble in the end, yours would too eventually

 

No empire has existed without competition, either... It's hard to say what would happen to a completely unified world.

[ragnarok1945]

According to North Korean officials' date=' they will only completely disarm their nukes if US also disarm all of theirs. I think that other countries will continue producing nukes if they still know that there is another country with that "edge".

[/quote']

 

that's not going to happen. During the height of the nuclear weapons race, the US and USSR never agreed to dismantle ALL of their weapons. They still need it in case another country chooses to go to nuclear war

And thus, in our own pride & prestige, the human race will destroy only themselves...what a tragic end for us to be ended by our own creations...

 

Hey, we ARE our greatest enemy, this saying has been true LONG before the time of nuclear weapons.

 

In the nuclear world we may just destroy ourselves faster and nothing more.

 

Well the logical answer is for me to take over the world. Then we'd become one big happy empire. :D

 

But seriously, barring global unification, I don't ever see an end to nuclear threat.

 

All empires crumble in the end, yours would too eventually

 

No empire has existed without competition, either... It's hard to say what would happen to a completely unified world.

 

You can't get a unified world because everyone has their own opinions, it is among the fundamentals as to why terrorism even existed in the first place

[Guest Supreme Gamesmaster]

According to North Korean officials' date=' they will only completely disarm their nukes if US also disarm all of theirs. I think that other countries will continue producing nukes if they still know that there is another country with that "edge".

[/quote']

 

that's not going to happen. During the height of the nuclear weapons race, the US and USSR never agreed to dismantle ALL of their weapons. They still need it in case another country chooses to go to nuclear war

And thus, in our own pride & prestige, the human race will destroy only themselves...what a tragic end for us to be ended by our own creations...

 

Hey, we ARE our greatest enemy, this saying has been true LONG before the time of nuclear weapons.

 

In the nuclear world we may just destroy ourselves faster and nothing more.

 

Well the logical answer is for me to take over the world. Then we'd become one big happy empire. :D

 

But seriously, barring global unification, I don't ever see an end to nuclear threat.

 

All empires crumble in the end, yours would too eventually

 

No empire has existed without competition, either... It's hard to say what would happen to a completely unified world.

 

You can't get a unified world because everyone has their own opinions, it is among the fundamentals as to why terrorism even existed in the first place

 

You forgot systematic genocide as a possibility. Anyone who disagreed with the unified would would be killed. Or have a socialism in which everyone is equal and thereby powerless.

[ragnarok1945]

yeah well killing those who disagreed eventually leads to the downfall of the unified state. Eventually there'd reach rebellion

[Guest Supreme Gamesmaster]

yeah well killing those who disagreed eventually leads to the downfall of the unified state. Eventually there'd reach rebellion

If everyone who disagrees is dead, how can there be rebellion?

[ragnarok1945]

the society will be left with only you then if that's the case. You really think you can create a society in which everyone will agree with every possible opinion you give?

[Guest Supreme Gamesmaster]

the society will be left with only you then if that's the case. You really think you can create a society in which everyone will agree with every possible opinion you give?

You assume dictatorship. I see no reason why a unified world couldn't be socialistic.

[ragnarok1945]

you really think you can unify every country to like you?

[Wyhe]

According to North Korean officials' date=' they will only completely disarm their nukes if US also disarm all of theirs. I think that other countries will continue producing nukes if they still know that there is another country with that "edge".

[/quote']

 

that's not going to happen. During the height of the nuclear weapons race, the US and USSR never agreed to dismantle ALL of their weapons. They still need it in case another country chooses to go to nuclear war

And thus, in our own pride & prestige, the human race will destroy only themselves...what a tragic end for us to be ended by our own creations...

 

Hey, we ARE our greatest enemy, this saying has been true LONG before the time of nuclear weapons.

 

In the nuclear world we may just destroy ourselves faster and nothing more.

 

Well the logical answer is for me to take over the world. Then we'd become one big happy empire. :D

 

But seriously, barring global unification, I don't ever see an end to nuclear threat.

 

All empires crumble in the end, yours would too eventually

 

No empire has existed without competition, either... It's hard to say what would happen to a completely unified world.

 

You can't get a unified world because everyone has their own opinions, it is among the fundamentals as to why terrorism even existed in the first place

 

You forgot systematic genocide as a possibility. Anyone who disagreed with the unified would would be killed. Or have a socialism in which everyone is equal and thereby powerless.

Well...usually genocide is the first big mistake any dictator has ever made. I mean, just look at Hitler. If he were more patient & calm with his plans & conquer Europe before "purifying" it, he could have not lost so badly in WWII.

 

Also, a socialism society seems oxymoronic to you. If you render all as equal & powerless beings, you have to do the same to yourself & with the whole world in your grip, losing all that power is the best-desired thing to do.

[ragnarok1945]

it worked the same way with Stalin and his genocide purges that nearly cost him the war

[Wyhe]

it worked the same way with Stalin and his genocide purges that nearly cost him the war

Bingo! That's the perfect example of a socialist dictatorship that failed. I mean, USSR was quite powerful state being the first superpower before USA got its way up there in WWII. Now look at his so-called glorious "USSR", it is now nothing more than the Russian Federation...if he weren't leading USSR, maybe USSR may be even stronger than ever now...

[OMGAKITTY]

According to North Korean officials' date=' they will only completely disarm their nukes if US also disarm all of theirs. I think that other countries will continue producing nukes if they still know that there is another country with that "edge".

[/quote']

 

that's not going to happen. During the height of the nuclear weapons race, the US and USSR never agreed to dismantle ALL of their weapons. They still need it in case another country chooses to go to nuclear war

And thus, in our own pride & prestige, the human race will destroy only themselves...what a tragic end for us to be ended by our own creations...

 

Hey, we ARE our greatest enemy, this saying has been true LONG before the time of nuclear weapons.

 

In the nuclear world we may just destroy ourselves faster and nothing more.

 

Well the logical answer is for me to take over the world. Then we'd become one big happy empire. :D

 

But seriously, barring global unification, I don't ever see an end to nuclear threat.

 

All empires crumble in the end, yours would too eventually

 

No empire has existed without competition, either... It's hard to say what would happen to a completely unified world.

 

You can't get a unified world because everyone has their own opinions, it is among the fundamentals as to why terrorism even existed in the first place

 

You forgot systematic genocide as a possibility. Anyone who disagreed with the unified would would be killed. Or have a socialism in which everyone is equal and thereby powerless.

Well...usually genocide is the first big mistake any dictator has ever made. I mean, just look at Hitler. If he were more patient & calm with his plans & conquer Europe before "purifying" it, he could have not lost so badly in WWII.

 

Also, a socialism society seems oxymoronic to you. If you render all as equal & powerless beings, you have to do the same to yourself & with the whole world in your grip, losing all that power is the best-desired thing to do.

 

Actually Hitler lost the war because he tried to fight Russia/USSR, and got hit by the Russian Winter. (And then the US entered the war...which really didn't help things).

 

I'd also like to point out that that's where Napoleon lost too.

[Wyhe]

According to North Korean officials' date=' they will only completely disarm their nukes if US also disarm all of theirs. I think that other countries will continue producing nukes if they still know that there is another country with that "edge".

[/quote']

 

that's not going to happen. During the height of the nuclear weapons race, the US and USSR never agreed to dismantle ALL of their weapons. They still need it in case another country chooses to go to nuclear war

And thus, in our own pride & prestige, the human race will destroy only themselves...what a tragic end for us to be ended by our own creations...

 

Hey, we ARE our greatest enemy, this saying has been true LONG before the time of nuclear weapons.

 

In the nuclear world we may just destroy ourselves faster and nothing more.

 

Well the logical answer is for me to take over the world. Then we'd become one big happy empire. :D

 

But seriously, barring global unification, I don't ever see an end to nuclear threat.

 

All empires crumble in the end, yours would too eventually

 

No empire has existed without competition, either... It's hard to say what would happen to a completely unified world.

 

You can't get a unified world because everyone has their own opinions, it is among the fundamentals as to why terrorism even existed in the first place

 

You forgot systematic genocide as a possibility. Anyone who disagreed with the unified would would be killed. Or have a socialism in which everyone is equal and thereby powerless.

Well...usually genocide is the first big mistake any dictator has ever made. I mean, just look at Hitler. If he were more patient & calm with his plans & conquer Europe before "purifying" it, he could have not lost so badly in WWII.

 

Also, a socialism society seems oxymoronic to you. If you render all as equal & powerless beings, you have to do the same to yourself & with the whole world in your grip, losing all that power is the best-desired thing to do.

 

Actually Hitler lost the war because he tried to fight Russia/USSR, and got hit by the Russian Winter. (And then the US entered the war...which really didn't help things).

 

I'd also like to point out that that's where Napoleon lost too.

Lesson learnt: Do not mess with the Russians, but exalt them for their always successful resistance against conquerors like Napolean & Hitler.

[ragnarok1945]

it worked the same way with Stalin and his genocide purges that nearly cost him the war

Bingo! That's the perfect example of a socialist dictatorship that failed. I mean' date=' USSR was quite powerful state being the first superpower before USA got its way up there in WWII. Now look at his so-called glorious "USSR", it is now nothing more than the Russian Federation...if he weren't leading USSR, maybe USSR may be even stronger than ever now...

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yeah well that's his problem for trying to gain so much control. The more you try to control something, the less real power you have over it

[OMGAKITTY]

it worked the same way with Stalin and his genocide purges that nearly cost him the war

Bingo! That's the perfect example of a socialist dictatorship that failed. I mean' date=' USSR was quite powerful state being the first superpower before USA got its way up there in WWII. Now look at his so-called glorious "USSR", it is now nothing more than the Russian Federation...if he weren't leading USSR, maybe USSR may be even stronger than ever now...

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yeah well that's his problem for trying to gain so much control. The more you try to control something, the less real power you have over it

 

Dictators tend to be a paranoid lot. Stalin was just a little more so than most.

[ragnarok1945]

it worked the same way with Stalin and his genocide purges that nearly cost him the war

Bingo! That's the perfect example of a socialist dictatorship that failed. I mean' date=' USSR was quite powerful state being the first superpower before USA got its way up there in WWII. Now look at his so-called glorious "USSR", it is now nothing more than the Russian Federation...if he weren't leading USSR, maybe USSR may be even stronger than ever now...

[/quote']

 

yeah well that's his problem for trying to gain so much control. The more you try to control something, the less real power you have over it

 

Dictators tend to be a paranoid lot. Stalin was just a little more so than most.

 

and that's the reason why you can't unify that way. As a king of a country in the ancient days it is you who serve your people, not the other way around

[Guest Supreme Gamesmaster]

WE AREN'T TALKING ABOUT A SOCIALIST DICTATORSHIP.

 

Instead, we're talking a democracy where the losers die. It'd be a pretty small democracy, but eventually, everyone would go along with the leaders out of fear.

[ragnarok1945]

and out of fear will come a plot to overthrow the current government anyway

[OMGAKITTY]

Until people as a whole change, there will be no such thing as a perfect government or a united world.

[~/Coolio Prime\~]

the US's hate for Asian people is also what contributed to their different actions in WWII later on you know

 

It was mostly the Japanese they were angry at. For a lot of reasons.

 

Yeah well I was referring to before the war even began

You mean when Japan was capturing islands from neighboring countries or when they bombe Pearl Harbor?

[OMGAKITTY]

the US's hate for Asian people is also what contributed to their different actions in WWII later on you know

 

It was mostly the Japanese they were angry at. For a lot of reasons.

 

Yeah well I was referring to before the war even began

You mean when Japan was capturing islands from neighboring countries or when they bombe Pearl Harbor?

 

America has been racist to Asian immigrants for quite a while before WWII. Wouldn't go as far as to say all of America hated Asia though. Definitely changed a bit when Japan attacked.

[Guest Supreme Gamesmaster]

and out of fear will come a plot to overthrow the current government anyway

The plot will fail and be silenced' date=' ensuring continued unity.

Until people as a whole change, there will be no such thing as a perfect government or a united world.

So we kill the ones that don't change.

 

If we're done being existential, we can start negotiating how a unified world would impact the lives of the quasi-humans living in it.

[Wyhe]

Until people as a whole change' date=' there will be no such thing as a perfect government or a united world.

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Keep on dreaming...such a thing will never happen at all.

 

1000 years from now, humanity hasn't changed much & that will be the way for the next 1000 years.

[OMGAKITTY]

and out of fear will come a plot to overthrow the current government anyway

The plot will fail and be silenced' date=' ensuring continued unity.

Until people as a whole change, there will be no such thing as a perfect government or a united world.

So we kill the ones that don't change.

 

If we're done being existential, we can start negotiating how a unified world would impact the lives of the quasi-humansRobots living in it.

 

I thought this plan sounded familiar...

Robot Uprising anyone?

 

@Wyhe: I know that. I'm just saying that that's the only way the world would be unified.

Also: Humans have been around for over 2000 years.

[Wyhe]

and out of fear will come a plot to overthrow the current government anyway

The plot will fail and be silenced' date=' ensuring continued unity.

Until people as a whole change, there will be no such thing as a perfect government or a united world.

So we kill the ones that don't change.

 

If we're done being existential, we can start negotiating how a unified world would impact the lives of the quasi-humansRobots living in it.

 

I thought this plan sounded familiar...

Robot Uprising anyone?

 

@Wyhe: I know that. I'm just saying that that's the only way the world would be unified.

Also: Humans have been around for over 2000 years.

I know...they had been around for at least 3000 years...