CrabHelmet Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Scenario: All rules, the banlist, and the cardpool remain the same, with one exception: Special Summoned monsters cannot attack or use Ignition Effects until after the next Standby Phase of their controller. How does the game change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Jesse Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Monarchs (and MAYBE Counter Faries to a lesser extent) become godlike. All current meta decks would suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:pyramid:. Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 swarm otks die, monarchs become more powerful. i cant think atm, just finished work like half an hour ill think of more in abit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crimson King Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 JD/DAD/Herk/synchros become slower and less reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Gadgets and Monarchs become tier 1? Honestly Crab, you and your whimsical hypothetical situations. EDIT: You only made this thread for your own amusement, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-hero-guy Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 most decks would be vonerabul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Sir Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 most decks would be vonerabul ur cul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crimson King Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 most decks would be vonerabul ur culIz we al hav bat speling ang grammr nau? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted June 23, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 EDIT: You only made this thread for your own amusement' date=' right?[/quote'] Do I ever do anything for any other reason? This actually came to mind when I was thinking about Brionac and Snipe Hunter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Void Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Cards that can't be special summoned wouldn't be looked down upon so much for one thing, they wouldn't really be regarded exactly as slow anymore. As said before, Monarchs would essentially be the top deck in the entire game and the entire current metagame as we know it would be entirely different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Now it's like the anime scenario! Konami, u fail badly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Pretty much any kind of Swarm Deck would be ruined, thus making Little City, Monarchs, and top tier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silas Angel Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Prepare to be n00bified: Monarchs are...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Prepare to be n00bified: Monarchs are...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PikaPerson01 Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Prepare to be n00bified: Monarchs are...? Uhh... Caius, Raiza, Thestalos, Mobius, Granmarg, Zaborg? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crow™ Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 I would be f***'d. Which is a bad thing for everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 The game would be ruined, most good cards would be useless, people would go play Magic or Pokemon TCG instead, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 I think the not being able to activate ignition effects until your next Standby Phase would be fair, but not being able to attack either? That's over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom Roxas Posted June 23, 2009 Report Share Posted June 23, 2009 Prepare to be n00bified: Monarchs are...? Uhh... Caius' date=' Raiza, Thestalos, Mobius, Granmarg, Zaborg?[/quote'] You forgot Kuraz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazer Yoshi Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Many Decks would not be as good as they used to be.inb4obviousness. XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e-hero-guy Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 pretty much everyone would stop using fusions and synchro monsters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 ^Unless they choose to use those that don't have ignition effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted June 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 The game would be ruined' date=' most good cards would be useless, people would go play Magic or Pokemon TCG instead, etc.[/quote'] People would go play Magic because they want to avoid Summoning Sickness? I think the not being able to activate ignition effects until your next Standby Phase would be fair' date=' but not being able to attack either? That's over the top.[/quote'] Merely being unable to activate Ignition Effects would not have sufficient impact (although sealing the abilities of Dark Armed Dragon, Judgment Dragoon, Dark Strike Fighter, and Brionac for a turn would be rather nice), since it still allows for quick swarm OTK's and far too many powerful Special Summonable monsters have non-Ignition effects anyhow - for example, Gladiator Beasts would be largely unaffected, losing nothing more than Test Tiger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 I think the not being able to activate ignition effects until your next Standby Phase would be fair' date=' but not being able to attack either? That's over the top.[/quote'] Merely being unable to activate Ignition Effects would not have sufficient impact (although sealing the abilities of Dark Armed Dragon, Judgment Dragoon, Dark Strike Fighter, and Brionac for a turn would be rather nice), since it still allows for quick swarm OTK's and far too many powerful Special Summonable monsters have non-Ignition effects anyhow - for example, Gladiator Beasts would be largely unaffected, losing nothing more than Test Tiger. This is true, conversely however, I think that when you look at the contrast of how much more Decks like Little City, Gadgets, and Monarchs can benefit from full-on "Summon Sickness" being put into place than Gladiator Beasts can benefit from the softcore variant of "Summon Sickness", I think it's something to think about if we're going to put this into place. Besides, Gladiator Beasts would never see the light of day again if we're to impose on them the extreme variant you're suggesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted June 24, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 I think the not being able to activate ignition effects until your next Standby Phase would be fair' date=' but not being able to attack either? That's over the top.[/quote'] Merely being unable to activate Ignition Effects would not have sufficient impact (although sealing the abilities of Dark Armed Dragon, Judgment Dragoon, Dark Strike Fighter, and Brionac for a turn would be rather nice), since it still allows for quick swarm OTK's and far too many powerful Special Summonable monsters have non-Ignition effects anyhow - for example, Gladiator Beasts would be largely unaffected, losing nothing more than Test Tiger. This is true, conversely however, I think that when you look at the contrast of how much more Decks like Little City, Gadgets, and Monarchs can benefit from full-on "Summon Sickness" being put into place than Gladiator Beasts can benefit from the softcore variant of "Summon Sickness", I think it's something to think about if we're going to put this into place. Ah, but you're forgetting two very important things: 1) I like Gadgets.2) I'm trying to rip off Magic as directly as possible here. So yeah. Besides' date=' Gladiator Beasts would never see the light of day again if we're to impose on them the extreme variant you're suggesting.[/quote'] Gladiator Beasts actually don't get hurt as badly as you might think by the full version. When they tag in after the Battle Phase, they still get their Trigger effects, and by the time another of your Battle Phases comes around, a Standby Phase will have already occurred and so they won't lose the chance to attack. And Darius's effect already gives Summoning Sickness to its target anyhow, so that isn't changed. The only ones that get hit badly are Test Tiger (whom the weakened version murders anyhow) and Gyzarus (to which I say "good riddance"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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