CrabHelmet Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 If "Metamorphosis + Metal Reflect Slime = Cyber End Dragon" is not broken now' date=' then "A field spell + SIN monster = Cyber End Dragon" is not broken either. Powerful, but not broken.[/quote'] The former is slower, is far easier to counter, is harder to assemble due to less searchability, and involves cards that are much less useful outside of the combo. Oh, and despite all of those additional weaknesses, it is still considered a borderline problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Sin_Cyber_End_Dragonlolwikia says it has piercing. Let's hope it was some troll... According to their summary of the movie duel, no it wasn't a troll. In the anime, it has piercing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I would hate to know what Sin Rainbow Dragon does >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aximil Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I would hate to know what Sin Rainbow Dragon does >_> A Fiber Jar that remains out after everything else returns? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Void Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Only in a godawful meta like this would we get a 4000' date=' 2 card beatstick, and still have everyone going "meh".[/quote'] I'm so happy that someone finally said this...it's getting ridiculous these days just what cards the average player is considering "bad/meh/garbage". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 At least it's not trampling (or piercing, in another way of saying). At least it's got 4000 ATK for a non-tribute behemoth. Jeez, does anyone believe this'll actually get released? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VolTama Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Konami has released things that are, indeed, just as bad if not worse than Sin Cydra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Merciful Idiot Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Like what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VolTama Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 ...I want to say Yata or CED-EotE, but even THEY need more set up than this bastard... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Dark Armed Dragon is much worse than this. For all its faults, Sin Cyber End Dragon doesn't nuke the field for free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson General Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Dark Armed Dragon is much worse than this. For all its faults' date=' Sin Cyber End Dragon doesn't nuke the field for free.[/quote'] you know whats worse than that? DAD nuking, then dropping Sin Cyber End =S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Merciful Idiot Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 News Flash. This card is Super OP'd. All it requires is a Field Spell on the field and removing CED from your Extra Deck while DAD takes exactly three DARK monsters in the graveyard to summon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tabris Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Well, it is powerful, but not exactly banworthy. It isn't as if you're gonna have a swell time attacking with a swarm of Machines with this around, anyway.News Flash. This card is Super OP'd. All it requires is a Field Spell on the field and removing CED from your Extra Deck while DAD takes exactly three DARK monsters in the graveyard to summon. Well, your other monsters can't attack, if it's enough consolation. I think that is, but prove me wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboss144 Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Well' date=' it is powerful, but not exactly banworthy. It isn't as if you're gonna have a swell time attacking with a swarm of Machines with this around, anyway.[hr']News Flash. This card is Super OP'd. All it requires is a Field Spell on the field and removing CED from your Extra Deck while DAD takes exactly three DARK monsters in the graveyard to summon. Well' date=' your other monsters can't attack, if it's enough consolation. I think that is, but prove me wrong.[/quote'] Don't forget the Sin field spell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 OK, I've been thinking about this, and I've figured it out. "Sin" is here to propel the Skill Drain deck into serious competition with decks like Lightsworns.Sin Cyber End is one of the fastest and strongest beatsticks in the game, but unless you have Skill Drain/Sin World on the field, it'll end up being more of a liability than a weapon.In fact, they're moving in the opposite direction than the game has been trending recently. Cards like Catastor, Armor Master, and Gale have been sitting here telling us that ATK doesn't matter, and now "Sin" arrives and says yes, actually it does matter. I will be playing a Skill Drain Sin Deck, and I will like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboss144 Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 OK' date=' I've been thinking about this, and I've figured it out. "Sin" is here to propel the Skill Drain deck into serious competition with decks like Lightsworns.Sin Cyber End is one of the fastest and strongest beatsticks in the game, but unless you have Skill Drain/Sin World on the field, it'll end up being more of a liability than a weapon.In fact, they're moving in the opposite direction than the game has been trending recently. Cards like Catastor, Armor Master, and Gale have been sitting here telling us that ATK doesn't matter, and now "Sin" arrives and says yes, actually it does matter. I will be playing a Skill Drain Sin Deck, and I will like it.[/quote'] Skill drain will NEVER be meta. I'm sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YamiMario Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Field Spell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daboss144 Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Field Spell Oh yeah, I forgot you can run sooo many of those in your deck <.< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Field Spell HEY GUISE JD ISNT BROKEN BECAUSE YOU CAN SOLEMN HIM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YamiMario Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Field Spell HEY GUISE JD ISNT BROKEN BECAUSE YOU CAN SOLEMN HIM!I just meant that Field Spells are easy to destroy. Not just with MST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Dark Armed Dragon is much worse than this. For all its faults' date=' Sin Cyber End Dragon doesn't nuke the field for free.[/quote'] takes 3 DAD to get an OTK (and can be countered rather easily). Takes two Sin CED for game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Dark Armed Dragon is much worse than this. For all its faults' date=' Sin Cyber End Dragon doesn't nuke the field for free.[/quote'] takes 3 DAD to get an OTK (and can be countered rather easily). Takes two Sin CED for game.Um.....you have a few problem their. One is you can't have two Sin monsters on the field at once. Second is they would die with out a field spell. You'll need the Sin field to fix the problems, making it a 3 card OTK where your opponent can still have monsters and spells/traps. Over all DAD is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 DAD is worse than most cards... this is still ludcrously broken. Sin World just makes it an OTK machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrabHelmet Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 DAD works just fine outside of three-card combos that don't otherwise clear the opponent's field. The fact that it has a harder time pulling off a combo OTK by no means makes it weaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenzoTheHarpist Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Besides, this and DAD go hand in hand in the same deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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