Dr. Cakey Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 So, I was thinking. With D-Hero Malicious @ 2 and Heroes not exactly Tiered, do you think this could take the bold leap to...Semi-Limit it? To continue, discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 I think the reason this was put@1 was because it searches for itself.I dunno, I just remember this was put@1 in like mid-2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDKMRV Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 This will not hit Semi.If it doesn, then so will RotA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Lawless Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 won't get semi'd, although it'd be cool.Unless you're teching Winds (like Stardust, Raiza, etc), he's one of the few wind heroes ran, and a rare target for Great Tornado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kira the Savior Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 Self searching 1800 beater with a random side effect that may become MST. Or worse. Not getting off the limit list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted July 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 I'm not saying its a bad card, obviously it's excellent, but what, does it @ 2 make Heroes Tier 0? Improve any deck more than by a slight margin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechnoDoomedOne Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 At 1 it's a good monster that gives +0 and searches. At 2 it's a +1 that searches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted July 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 At 1 it's a good monster that gives +0 and searches. At 2 it's a +1 that searches. ...@ 1 it is also a +1 that searches. So what if it searches itself? Yes, that makes it much better, but it doesn't give you any advantage that can be immediately abused. i.e. it is not Flamvell Firedog. Which is @ 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kira the Savior Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 At 1 it's a good monster that gives +0 and searches. At 2 it's a +1 that searches. ...@ 1 it is also a +1 that searches. So what if it searches itself? Yes' date=' that makes it much better, but it doesn't give you any advantage that can be immediately abused. i.e. it is not Flamvell Firedog. Which is @ 3.[/quote'] Flamevell Dog isn't a warrior, and is arguably also worthy of being limited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 At 1 it's a good monster that gives +0 and searches. At 2 it's a +1 that searches. ...@ 1 it is also a +1 that searches. So what if it searches itself? Yes' date=' that makes it much better, but it doesn't give you any advantage that can be immediately abused. i.e. it is not Flamvell Firedog. Which is @ 3.[/quote'] Flamevell Dog isn't a warrior, and is arguably also worthy of being limited Kira is amazing at thinking like Konami.Limit Firedog and keep Rekindling@3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kira the Savior Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 At 1 it's a good monster that gives +0 and searches. At 2 it's a +1 that searches. ...@ 1 it is also a +1 that searches. So what if it searches itself? Yes' date=' that makes it much better, but it doesn't give you any advantage that can be immediately abused. i.e. it is not Flamvell Firedog. Which is @ 3.[/quote'] Flamevell Dog isn't a warrior, and is arguably also worthy of being limited Kira is amazing at thinking like Konami.Limit Firedog and keep Rekindling@3 Rekindling should have been. Banned before it was even printed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 At 1 it's a good monster that gives +0 and searches. At 2 it's a +1 that searches. ...@ 1 it is also a +1 that searches. So what if it searches itself? Yes' date=' that makes it much better, but it doesn't give you any advantage that can be immediately abused. i.e. it is not Flamvell Firedog. Which is @ 3.[/quote'] Flamevell Dog isn't a warrior, and is arguably also worthy of being limited Kira is amazing at thinking like Konami.Limit Firedog and keep Rekindling@3 Rekindling should have been. Banned before it was even printed Rekindling gives Konami a reason for this gimmic:Make a slow-ish archtype with effects that dont make sence, and then print 1 or 2 supporting cards that lets them be overkill, while still not being metaworthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted July 24, 2010 Report Share Posted July 24, 2010 This card can search any Hero... it should be in all Hero decks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 Only way for this to go to 3 is if it couldn't search itself. Side from that if your deck uses Heros you'll use this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Michael Geren Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 Searching itself is a stupid idea, unless you play Ultimate Offering, a card that shouldn't be played in Hero decks. In summary, should be @3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 This card can search any Hero... it should be in all Hero decks My god, he's so right.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Judgment Dragon Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 If it couldn't search another copy of itself, this would be fine at 3. It is still a great card though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 Searchable as hell, creates rediculous card advantage with revival cards.Yeah, ought to be at 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas★Zero Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 Not so sure since I think this + Plasma/Dogma(lv8?) + Traded-in/destiny draw gives you still a good draw engine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 i want this at 3.Ban Malicious and D-Draw.This to 3. its all i want for Christmas. Knowing Konami, the opposite will happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flame Dragon Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 i want this at 3.Ban Malicious and D-Draw.This to 3. its all i want for Christmas. Knowing Konami' date=' the opposite will happen.[/quote']Why ban Malicious when putting it at 1 will do the same thing? Why ban D-Draw when the only way you can use it is if you run a fair number of a monsters from a meh archtype? But the best question is why ban them and move this to 3 when those 2 have nothing to do with why this was put at 1 in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 yes i know, but its his best use. apart from searching for himself.that would make Little City or Big City that much more fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azmodius Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 Great card can set up insane plays, but not so good this format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted July 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 My main question remains unanswered: how does this searching itself make it broken? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Expelsword Posted July 25, 2010 Report Share Posted July 25, 2010 I dunno, I guess deck thinning isn't allowed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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