Imagine a world where almost all cards were either at 0 or 3...

[Dr. Cakey]

But having a bunch of cards at 1 kinda defeats the purpose of a 3-0 list. I would rather there be more balanced mass S/T destruction so I could put all the S/T stall at 3, or decide that stall as a strategy is bad for the game and ban it all.

 

And Launcher is now banned, so there goes Infernities.

 

Re:Herk - Without Gyzarus, there isn't really a consistent way for GladBeasts to even get to Herk.

So "having three monsters on the field" is inconsistent now?

 

EDIT: I didn't notice Gyzarus was on the list. I suppose as long as one of them is banned, it works well enough. And actually I suppose I do understand how Gyzarus destroying 2 cards, then paying for its own summon is really a problem.

[Catterjune]

I've seen that thrown around a lot without any real convincing reasoning to accompany it. Why does Wulf need to be banned?

Simply put, it's an easy 2100 beatstick that costs you nothing to summon when it's milled. I'm sure the argument could become "but what about when you draw into it?" in which case you must remember that the point of a banlist is to decrease luck's involvement in a duel. If your opponent is getting lucky mills... there's a problem there.

 

A few things. Why does Honest need to be banned if I may ask? It is essentially an improved Shrink for LIGHT monsters.

The difference between Shrink and Honest is that Shrink needs field commitment in order to do it's thing. If your opponent hits with Shrink, you can respond with stuff like Magic Drain and the like. Secondly, the fact that halving may not be enough enough anyway, while Honest will almost always kill something also must be addressed.

 

That being said, I wonder why Kalut wasn't given list attention...

[Chaos Pudding]

Re:Kalut - Because I don't think Blackwings as a whole are a broken deck type without Black Whirlwind. But if you wanna come testing with me to prove me wrong, be my guest.

[Flame Dragon]

Pot of Greederosity. It's a weaker Pot of Greed. It lets you look at the top 3(?) cards of your deck and add one to your hand. Only trade off is you can't Special Summon, which isn't close to saving it.

 

Stardust out right stops most ways people deal with cards. At 2500 ATK he's also not an easy card to run over.

 

Blackwing Armor Master is basicly Marshmallon only it can beatstick which is stupid. Yes needing a Blackwing tuner hurts it some, but since Gale is so easy to add into decks since it's one of the best level 3 tuners he too can just be thrown into the extra deck.

 

XX-Saber Hyunlei is a weaker Featherduster, only is comes with 2300 ATK.

 

Rekindling only use is to OTK.

 

I'll add more as I think of it.

[Azuh]

Goyo Guardian?

Stardust Dragon?

Colossal Fighter?

Ally of Justice Catastor?

Dark End Dragon?

Trishula, Dragon of the Ice Barrier?

Tempest Magician?

 

Some synchros are bad for the game are they not?

[Catterjune]

Tempest Magician?

 

FTK Central, especially with Giant Trunade at 3.

[Mr. Judgment Dragon]

Simply put, it's an easy 2100 beatstick that costs you nothing to summon when it's milled. I'm sure the argument could become "but what about when you draw into it?" in which case you must remember that the point of a banlist is to decrease luck's involvement in a duel. If your opponent is getting lucky mills... there's a problem there.

 

The difference between Shrink and Honest is that Shrink needs field commitment in order to do it's thing. If your opponent hits with Shrink, you can respond with stuff like Magic Drain and the like. Secondly, the fact that halving may not be enough enough anyway, while Honest will almost always kill something also must be addressed.That being said, I wonder why Kalut wasn't given list attention...

 

Makes sense. Never really looked at them that way.

[Azuh]

FTK Central, especially with Giant Trunade at 3.

 

Not only that, the list has most draw cards such as Destiny Draw, Allure, Toon Table and the like at 3, therefore gathering Spell Counters with ease

[The ReBeL]

this is now solved.

 

Bann all new meta running around.

 

Every deck thats not winning has cards ran at 3 the 1 month later the same happens lol.

[Dr. Cakey]

To start with, ban all generic Synchros. Except Gaia Knight, I suppose.

[Chaos Pudding]

Just killed Tempest and Trishula.

[arkel]

Raging Mad Plants should be banned.

[GenzoTheHarpist]

No it shouldn't. Raging Mad Plants is awful.

[SephirothKirby]

Raging Mad Plants is only used to OTK. It's not a very good OTK, granted, but a hell of a better one in a meta like this.

 

 

Why is Stratos banned? Why isn't he @1?

[Flame Dragon]

No it shouldn't. Raging Mad Plants is awful.

How is a card that could easily give a net ATK increase of 4500 bad. Really having 5 plants in the grave and and 3 on the field shouldn't be a hard thing at all for them.

 

Why is Stratos banned? Why isn't he @1?

Read the Stratos thread. Basically it's a combination that he searches right away, is a good beatstick, and searches fro the largest archtype in the game.

[Chaos Pudding]

Hmmm... do I ban Raging Mad Plants on principle?

[Flame Dragon]

Hmmm... do I ban Raging Mad Plants on principle?

I would cards that exist only OTK don't give anything to the game.

[arkel]

Ban Machine Duplication and put Card Trooper @ 3?

[Chaos Pudding]

Ban Machine Duplication and put Card Trooper @ 3?

 

Or keep Trooper at 2 and Dupe at 3.

 

5 cards > 3 cards.

[-Lightray Daedalus-]

It must be a stupid question but...like...is not cilynder like OK at 1...or I'm missing something in this list at 3 that makes burn something dangerous

 

By the Way! You put Infernity Launcher as a monster.

 

Oh And 1 more thing Ban Final Countdown?...This Format has way to much Stall