Birkeland Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 [center][img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101110235345/yugioh/images/8/89/Magioshaleon.png[/img] [b]While your opponent controls a Spell/Trap Card, they cannot select this card as an attack target. [url="http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Piercing"]Piercing[/url][/b] It's kind of fun. ALO makes it a Level 4. Reptile isn't terrible for it. Nothing deck-worthy, but funny.[/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 What's the rule on it? Is it the Earthbound Immortal ruling (can't attack at all if it's the only thing out) or the Legendary Fisherman (direct attacks are allowed if this is the only thing out) ruling? Interesting card, but its ruling could make it or break it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 funny, but not really useful imo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 I think that its ability is because it "goes invisible", and that would probably mean it's the like Legendary Fisherman where they can attack you directly. But it's possible that's not the case... it's hard to tell with these sorts of cards because their effects are sometimes conflicting with one another. I don't like it. I like the look of the card, but it punishes your opponent for using Continuous or Field Spell cards... Though it could backfire I guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1289829041' post='4786700'] What's the rule on it? Is it the Earthbound Immortal ruling (can't attack at all if it's the only thing out) or the Legendary Fisherman (direct attacks are allowed if this is the only thing out) ruling? [/quote] Konami wont just make up their mind, instead of just BKSS-ing everything >__> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkaiser Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 What does BKSS stand for? Blood King, Susa Soldier? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 [quote name='Zkaiser' timestamp='1289841746' post='4786934'] What does BKSS stand for? Blood King, Susa Soldier? [/quote] Effectivly its like this: When a ruling makes no real sence, like in the case with Earthbounds vs Fisherman, then its a BKSS Which stands for "Because Konami Says So" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 According to the wording: Legendary Fisherman: "Monsters on your opponent's side of the field cannot select this card as an attack target." Guardian Kay'est: "...cannot be attacked by your opponent's monsters" Earthbound Immortals: "Your opponent cannot select this card as an attack target" This card: "...[your opponent] cannot select this card as an attack target" Based on wording alone, this card should have the same ruling as the Immortals. Kay'est and Fisherman, which have the same ruling, specify that [b]monsters[/b] can't attack them, and the latter two place the limitation on your opponent. This still doesn't seem very logical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 [img]http://myayo.com/files/2010/07/facebook-like-button.png[/img] Will be fun in a couple of my decks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1289843117' post='4786964'] This still doesn't seem very logical. [/quote] Again, its a friggin' BKSS Still, a level 5 WATER with piercing that just-so-happens to be ideal for ALO, is always nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 WATER decks are terrible and will always be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buttercup Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 [quote name='Älfred-Kün' timestamp='1289854751' post='4787300'] WATER decks are terrible and will always be. [/quote] Frog ftk guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Here's how you tell if a monster with this effect allows for a direct attack: Is named "Legendary Fisherman": allows for a direct attack. Is not named "Legendary Fisherman": does not allow for a direct attack. That aside, it looks like a really fun card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Guardian Kay'est is not named Legendary Fisherman... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkaiser Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 [quote name='Älfred-Kün' timestamp='1289854751' post='4787300'] WATER decks are terrible and will always be. [/quote] Hold the f***ing phone. I went 5-3 at an Orlando Regionals with a pure WATER deck. Just because you don't have the skill to use certain cards does NOT mean that they are terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BehindTheMask Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 Terrible, even in water decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Cakey Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 [quote name='Saikano' timestamp='1289865135' post='4787818'] Guardian Kay'est is not named Legendary Fisherman... [/quote] Kay'est works like that, too? Well, it's a Guardian that isn't named Eatos, so...I plead ignoring stupid cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 [quote name='Dr. Cakey' timestamp='1289874871' post='4788380'] Kay'est works like that, too? Well, it's a Guardian that isn't named Eatos, so...I plead ignoring stupid cards. [/quote] I blame you not reading my post that explicitly states Fisherman and Kay'est have the same ruling, while comparing their wording side by side with the topic card and the Immortals. But you're right, the non-Eatos Guardians are meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas★Zero Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 legindary ocean makes this card work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf777 Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1289843117' post='4786964'] According to the wording: Legendary Fisherman: "Monsters on your opponent's side of the field cannot select this card as an attack target." Guardian Kay'est: "...cannot be attacked by your opponent's monsters" Earthbound Immortals: "Your opponent cannot select this card as an attack target" This card: "...[your opponent] cannot select this card as an attack target" Based on wording alone, this card should have the same ruling as the Immortals. Kay'est and Fisherman, which have the same ruling, specify that [b]monsters[/b] can't attack them, and the latter two place the limitation on your opponent. This still doesn't seem very logical. [/quote] No, this explanation is very correct. +1 for you. Legendary Fisherman and Guardian Kay'est cannot be attacked by the opponent's monsters. Earthbound Immortals can be attacked by the opponent's monsters, but the opponent cannot declare an attack on them. [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1289851862' post='4787184'] Again, its a friggin' BKSS [/quote] Again, not BKSS. The wordings are very specific as to what they affect. Fisherman and Kay'est state monsters cannot attack them. Earthbound Immortals states players cannot declare a target against them. In any case, evilfusion explained it just fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 [quote name='kingdom Neos' timestamp='1289910183' post='4788864'] legindary ocean makes this card work. [/quote] Except that there are better LV 5 WATER monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.