Sleepy Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 Exceeds shouldn't be as bad as everyone thinks they are. They have a Super Polimerization-like mechanic (except only during your turn and without discarding a card, and only specific towards Levels rather than Fusion Materials) I'll try them when they are out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 [quote name='sleepy' timestamp='1297799646' post='5010672'] Exceeds shouldn't be as bad as everyone thinks they are. They have a Super Polimerization-like mechanic (except only during your turn and without discarding a card, and only specific towards Levels rather than Fusion Materials) I'll try them when they are out. [/quote] I suppose the monsters need to be in your field... If not, then I'll give them a try... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organized Chaos Posted February 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 [quote name='Saikano' timestamp='1297799937' post='5010683'] I suppose the monsters need to be in your field... If not, then I'll give them a try... [/quote] Yeah, I guess I'll try them too. If they dont get better, I'll do it for the lulz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 I don't think this detracts much from Synchros. Just don't run as many of them if you're using an Exceed deck. You can survive with 4, 5, or 6 Synchros, people. I ran a [b]synchro[/b] deck that only had 6 Synchros in it (2 of which were Junk Warrior) and consistently won. That's what makes them such BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Lightray Daedalus- Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 EEEEEEHHHH:..IDK...sure they are now Extra Deck Stuff but... They are still bad versions of Synchro...or less restrictive Versions of Contact Fusion if you want.... Iffy at the fact that materials dont go to the Graveyard... and we have that freaking tight Extra Deck IDK I still don't like them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Organized Chaos Posted February 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 [quote name='slayer_supreme' timestamp='1297800533' post='5010698'] I don't think this detracts much from Synchros. Just don't run as many of them if you're using an Exceed deck. You can survive with 4, 5, or 6 Synchros, people. I ran a [b]synchro[/b] deck that only had 6 Synchros in it (2 of which were Junk Warrior) and consistently won. That's what makes them such BS. [/quote] I try to be creative with my decks and try ones with no synchros. Take a guess how many duels I've won with these "creative" decks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 [quote name='Saikano' timestamp='1297799937' post='5010683'] I suppose the monsters need to be in your field... If not, then I'll give them a try... [/quote] Every time I've seen something about Eccess monster mechanics, it always says "on the field" Especulating this is the only thing that made me thing they were at least worth it for fun when they were supposed to be in the Main Deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zauls Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 Well, they seem less bad than they did before. I hope we get some lolbroke Level 8 ones, then I'm buildind exceed.dek with Spies and Monk(s), depending on whether Monk goes to 2 or 3 any time soon. Should be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkaiser Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 Dark Heritage Fairys don't synchro at all. I wonder if those rumors about the across the board removal protection is still true(Where instead of removing an Excess from the field, you sent a unit to the Grave instead). If so, that alone makes all of them with 2600+ ATK worth it. No Caius/Brionac/Mist Wurm/D-Prison/Chaos Sorc/etc.. EDIT: You can fin the info here, on the bottom of the page: http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/products/bp-exvc.html [quote]The Next Step Synchro Monsters are battling for their survival! And coming later this year, you’ll learn about a brand new kind of monster you can Special Summon from your Extra Deck.[/quote] If they're advertising them like that then these cards will be broken beyond belief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 [quote name='Endless Nightmares' timestamp='1297798037' post='5010616'] Exceed Summon An Exceed Summon（エクシ一ズ召喚 Ekushitzu Shoukan） can be conducted when there are two or more monsters of the same Level on the field. Those monsters can be used as Material Monsters to Summon an Exceed Monster whose Level is equal to the combined Levels of the monsters on the field. [/quote] [s]SYNCHRO SHOUKAN![/s] EKUshitZU SHOUKAN! Cwatididthar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 [quote name='Shard Of Stardust' timestamp='1297805251' post='5010875'] [s]SYNCHRO SHOUKAN![/s] EKUshitZU SHOUKAN! Cwatididthar? [/quote] o u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Void Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 [quote name='Xaioxaio' timestamp='1297799298' post='5010661'] So two Exceeds decides the fate of an entire spin-off series worth of cards? ...Really? [/quote] ^ This Everyone proclaiming they're worse than synchros need to just stop until we have more info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 [quote name='Le Pierrot' timestamp='1297808369' post='5010992'] Everyone proclaiming they're worse than synchros need to just stop until we have more info. [/quote] What they need to do, is make the Extra Deck larger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathcore Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 I thought Effect monsters was dark brown. Hell, I don't even know; I don't care about the card frame anyway. Now I know why Level 5s and 7s aren't possible. The two (or more?) monsters need to be the same level. Don't quite know what to think of that. I need to see more Exceeds before saying their good or bad. I'm happy they're in the Extra Deck so they don't become a dead draw, but they need to bump up the limit. At least to 20. Also, I wonder if you can use a opponent's monster you control (like with Change of Heart) for a Exceed Summon. If you can, do they become Overlay Units? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 [quote name='Deathcore' timestamp='1297809078' post='5011028'] I thought Effect monsters was dark brown. Hell, I don't even know; I don't care about the card frame anyway. Now I know why Level 5s and 7s aren't possible. The two (or more?) monsters need to be the same level. Don't quite know what to think of that. I need to see more Exceeds before saying their good or bad. I'm happy they're in the Extra Deck so they don't become a dead draw, but they need to bump up the limit. At least to 20. Also, I wonder if you can use a opponent's monster you control (like with Change of Heart) for a Exceed Summon. If you can, do they become Overlay Units? [/quote] Level 5 is possible, but improbable. They would all have to be level 1 monsters. [quote name='Zkaiser' timestamp='1297799494' post='5010666'] We don't really know Revise Dragon. What was seen in the manga happened at a chapter cliffhanger. It probably has more effects. [/quote] It might not. But that's just the manga. Manga cards are usually very simple and situational... and sometimes get changed from their original effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anbu-of-Sand Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 Extra Deck? Eh....like a lot of people have said, they are already pretty cramped. I would've preferred them in the Main Deck, so we have more, I guess you can say 'Variety / Space' for them if they do tend to be usable when released. Then again, I like Super-Star-Silver's idea of Konami raising the Extra Deck by a bit. Perhaps to 20. Same goes with the Side, just to keep them the same. The Frame Color should have been....yellow. Yeah, yellow. They didn't make Yellow Frame Colors yet did they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brinolovania Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 [img]http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20061226053609/yugioh/images/thumb/d/d2/ShapesnatchPGD-EN-C.jpg/300px-ShapesnatchPGD-EN-C.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 As I already said, I don't see any problem with them being in the Extra Deck. If you're going to use them, use them. You won't lose out much by getting rid of some Synchros. Especially since if you're using Excess you should be using a deck meant to bring them out, not Synchros! [spoiler="Example"]Bolded cards are made-up Excess Monsters. Deck monsters: Basic Insect x3 Krebons x3 Mystic Tomato x3 Granmarg the Rock Monarch x3 Extra Deck: Stardust Dragon x2 Colossal Fighter Black Rose Dragon x2 Life Trancer Goyo Guardian Gaia Knight, The Force of Earth [b]Duck Face[/b] (Level 4) [b]Subway Eatfresh[/b] (Level 6) [b]Pizza Hut[/b] (Level 6) x2 [b]Fish Sandwich [/b](Level x2 [b]Explosion Man[/b] (Level 10)[/spoiler] I am against increasing the Extra Deck size also. That just encourages more cramming of cards into it that you probably won't use, but there's an off-chance that you might find a 1 in a million spot where it wins you the game. It makes the game more luck-based, and less skill-based. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solemn Silver Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 IMO they should of been Slyfer red.IMO they should of been Slyfer red. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 To me, it sounds like: • you can use monsters from both sides • they are in the Extra Deck • you can use any monsters as long as they are the same level • the Excess monsters use the Overlaid monsters for effects If all this is true, then, to me, being able to use your Level 4 with your opponent's Level 4 to summon a Level 8 Excess sounds kinda broken. Your opponent was just -1'd and you got a powerful monster that can use some certain effect twice. If you can only use your monsters, then they sound less viable than Synchros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 15, 2011 Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 I dont think you can use your opponent's monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnpsy Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 [quote name='Armadilloz' timestamp='1297808599' post='5011003'] What they need to do, is make the Extra Deck larger. [/quote] I'd think it would be smarter to keep it at 15, just [i]because[/i] the Extra Deck's getting cramped. You can't easily fit every good Synchro that you can summon anymore (though, ATM, you can still fit most of them). If they release some good Exceeds, it would only bring a little more thinking to the deck-building process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraz Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 So now ultimate offering + gadget = 4 level 8 exceed monsters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkaiser Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 [quote name='slayer_supreme' timestamp='1297809716' post='5011060']It might not. But that's just the manga. Manga cards are usually very simple and situational... and sometimes get changed from their original effects. [/quote] True, but it's the cover card for Generation Force. I'm sure it won't suck. Like you said it will probably get heavily revised before release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 I'd like to draw your attention to the cover card of EXVC and TAEV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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