Bringerofcake Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 [img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090602052310/yugioh/images/9/93/GranmargtheRockMonarchGLD2-EN-C-LE.jpg[/img] He's used less than Kuraz, but more than Derp. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourmaline Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Shoulda' been like. "When this card is Tribute Summoned, send 2 face-down cards from the field to the Graveyard." Or remove them from play. Yep. As of now, even Zaborg is better. Zaborg isn't even one of top four monarchs, so this guy has little hope. It's unfortunate, too. He looks cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Pretty much his only place is in Dark Gaia decks. He used to be the "most flexible monarch", but now he's one of the least usable ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Griffin Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 [quote name='Hinagiku Katsura' timestamp='1298872556' post='5040623'] Shoulda' been like. "When this card is Tribute Summoned, send 2 face-down cards from the field to the Graveyard." Or remove them from play. Yep. As of now, even Zaborg is better. Zaborg isn't even one of top four monarchs, so this guy has little hope. It's unfortunate, too. He looks cool. [/quote] I thought the top 4 were Raiza, Caius, Thesty and Zaborg? Possibly Mobius or Kuraz over Thesty/Zaborg I could see... but Zaborg's nice since it's LIGHT, so Sorc fodder and works with Honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Mobius has recently gained more usage than Zaborg, though Zaborg has historically been more popular. Plus it can be used in Chaos variants and the like. I personally used it in mine, back in the day << Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourmaline Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 [quote name='-Griffin' timestamp='1298872978' post='5040633'] I thought the top 4 were Raiza, Caius, Thesty and Zaborg? Possibly Mobius or Kuraz over Thesty/Zaborg I could see... but Zaborg's nice since it's LIGHT, so Sorc fodder and works with Honest. [/quote] I was speaking in my ideals, really. To me, in order, it's Caius, Raiza, Mobius THEN Thestalos. Caius and Raiza are practically the best without needing explanation, but Mobius can help quite a bit. It destroys more cards than Zaborg, garnering more field advantage. In a Monarch deck, I already have enough cards made to destroy monsters. I have two MSTs and Mobius for Spell/Trap removal. Hasn't spell/trap destruction been valued more since the death of Heavy Storm? Thestalos is getting rid of a card in the opponent's hand plus some burn. I never particularly liked cards that specify hand only destruction, but image how fun it'd be to end up killing a DAD or something that could've been useful. If that guy summoned DAD, you wouldn't really have a chance to summon Zaborg anymore, since you're probably going to have a near dry field after losing three cards.... This is mostly on my own, personal experience, though. Plus I'm a bit biased because Mobius is my favorite Monarch in terms of artwork and effect. He gives the largest field advantage between all Monarchs, overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zextra Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 IMO, Caius > Raiza > Mobius > Kuraz - once Machine Emperors come out... Anyways, Granmarg is just too slow and not destructive enough... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 guys the best monarc is delg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Zaborg used to fetch 45$ when it was big... now its common but as for this guy, he was ok when he was out only had mobius, thesty and zaborg as competition and even out of those he was bad. lucky they made delg or this guy would be the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Pretty much its like this: Caius/Raiza>Thestalos>Mobius>Granmarg>Kuraz>Delg [quote name='Sephiroth_The_Legend' timestamp='1298892513' post='5040927'] lucky they made delg or this guy would be the worst. [/quote] Why couldn't Caius have been named 'Caius, the Evil Monarch'? Because having 2 dark(Caius is shadow, Delg is dark. Srsly) Monarchs is just redundant :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Black Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Granmarg is fun when it works, and is still one of the more notable rock-type tribute monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkaiser Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Side in Delg for the Monarch mirror match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 i'm not sure if you could call This, Thestalos, Mobius and Zaborg Plot Devices in GX when they were in Domino City Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zauls Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Why does everyone think Thestalos is better than Mobius? Especially in Formula Monarch, Mobius is a million times better than Thestalos, and even, in my opinion, better than Raiza. Mobius gains more field advantage and pops stuff that you don't want face-down. It is WATER, which makes Gungnir with Fishborg, then Gungnir can blow up the monsters for a pretty much complete field wipe in a lot of situations. All Raiza does is creates 1 turn of dead draw and a more open field for one turn. Caius is obviously the best though, doesn't need explaining. [s]Grandma[/s] Granmarg is the second worst, because they made Delg/Herp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkaiser Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Derp the Herp Monarch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 [quote name='Zkaiser' timestamp='1298920800' post='5041439'] Side in Delg for the Monarch mirror match. [/quote] Ironic that their worst monarch is also their funniest counter. Delg the C***block Monarch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 [quote name='slayer_supreme' timestamp='1298937355' post='5042224'] Ironic that their worst monarch is also their funniest counter. Delg the C***block Monarch. [/quote] Can someone explain to me why Delg is the counter to Monarch decks? On topic: Was decent and the most versatile Monarch until Raiza and Caius were made. Useful only in decks that can make really good use of its rock type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 [quote name='Mystery Guest' timestamp='1298945520' post='5042698'] Can someone explain to me why Delg is the counter to Monarch decks? On topic: Was decent and the most versatile Monarch until Raiza and Caius were made. Useful only in decks that can make really good use of its rock type. [/quote] "When this card is Normal or Special Summoned, you can select up to 2 cards in your opponent's Graveyard, remove them from play...." What do Frog Monarchs use that would be terrible if removed from play, and is usually run in 2's or 1's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysty Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 [quote name='slayer_supreme' timestamp='1298945899' post='5042715'] "When this card is Normal or Special Summoned, you can select up to 2 cards in your opponent's Graveyard, remove them from play...." What do Frog Monarchs use that would be terrible if removed from play, and is usually run in 2's or 1's? [/quote] Treeborn Frog? Ronintoadin? Okay, yeah, now I can see where it would be awesome against FrogNarchs. However, you're still milling one or two cards. Just hope you aren't unlucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catterjune Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 [quote name='}~Gob~Zom~{' timestamp='1298929760' post='5041774'] Why does everyone think Thestalos is better than Mobius? [/quote] Because chainables exist. ... But seriously though, I dunno. I think it's some old ancient stigma back when everyone ran Starlight Road, back when monsters where the worst threats, not S/Ts. But pretty much, no one runs it. I still like it though. =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ReBeL Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Side Zaborg to make blackrose on opponents turn with formula. gram is ok but mobius is better. yea he can hit monsters but monsters is all because spell/traps are to chainable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee Black Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 [quote name='Battlestorm' timestamp='1298953641' post='5042958'] Side Zaborg to make blackrose on opponents turn with formula. gram is ok but mobius is better. yea he can hit monsters but monsters is all because spell/traps are to chainable [/quote] That made no sense. By your logic of "only hitting monsters" then gran would better since mobius can't destroy monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sephiroth_The_Legend Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 I'd say Mobius is only better than Thesty is because it's WATER. When run in Frognarchs with Fishborg blaster lets you obviously make Black Rose and stuff...... Thestalos is better personally, Mobius just has more variety at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiithepeople Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 I hate this topic. There's not enough lulz. Truly, I would side 1 Delg in situations like this. Frognarchs and Six Sams are still going to wipe the floor with the metagame at the moment even with the March banlist now active. Even then, that's why I run 2 Crevice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehmani Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Caius > Raiza > Mobius > Thesty > Granmarg > Kuraz > Derp Zaborg's green electric afro makes him too awesome to be on the Monarch scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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