Manjoume Thunder Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 [img]http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090602040906/yugioh/images/thumb/9/90/RaizatheStormMonarchGLD2-EN-GUR-LE.jpg/300px-RaizatheStormMonarchGLD2-EN-GUR-LE.jpg[/img][img]http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100724094708/yugioh/images/thumb/b/bc/CaiustheShadowMonarchGLD2-EN-GUR-LE.jpg/300px-CaiustheShadowMonarchGLD2-EN-GUR-LE.jpg[/img] Getting rid of things permanently and random 1000 burn for game VS getting rid of that bastard Tengu and Soft locks. Disregard any support like Allure of Darkness and Icarus Attack because obviously the best deck doesn't run them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas★Zero Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 probly the best monarchs along with mobius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilhorus Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Hmm while Raiza DOES work against Tengu, I still prefer Caius. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Caius for hitting dat set Dandy/Sangan etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laskeri - Unmei no Senshi Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 [quote name='Akira' timestamp='1309974965' post='5332204'] Caius for hitting dat set Dandy/Sangan etc [/quote] Raiza does the exact same thing, and forces your opponent to set that monster again next turn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilhorus Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 [quote name='Televi-Kun' timestamp='1309975474' post='5332221'] Raiza does the exact same thing, and forces your opponent to set that monster again next turn [/quote] And they still get their +'s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiithepeople Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 [quote name='Televi-Kun' timestamp='1309975474' post='5332221'] Raiza does the exact same thing, and forces your opponent to set that monster again next turn [/quote] Only Caius makes sure that they will rarely come back. On top of that: Sangan: Caius banishes it and deals 1000 damage. Dandy: Caius banishes it and the tokens will not appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laskeri - Unmei no Senshi Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 [quote name='Ｄ・モバホン' timestamp='1309975749' post='5332229'] Only Caius makes sure that they will rarely come back. On top of that: Sangan: Caius banishes it and deals 1000 damage. Dandy: Caius banishes it and the tokens will not appear. [/quote] I guess so, I guess it's personal preference on my part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Frog Monarchs run both of these manjy so it's cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiithepeople Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 [quote name='Televi-Kun' timestamp='1309975951' post='5332244'] I guess so, I guess it's personal preference on my part. [/quote] Same here. I personally prefer Kuraz. I run Kuraz in Scraps simply for the Chimera engine and the possible +2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 both of these cards have their good and bad points Caius banishes with potential 1000 burn (and was a SD boss monster) Raiza can be used to force your opponent to reset that card, or can be used on pesky synchros so, i cannot determine which is better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiithepeople Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Sometimes, I have Caius remove itself simply to end games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 3 of each is a must in a monarch deck. If it's not monarch, Caius is generally better, as it hits hard most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted July 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 itt: people don't bother to read the title and discuss inferior deck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiithepeople Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 [quote name='Manjoume Thunder' timestamp='1309977468' post='5332320'] itt: people don't bother to read the title and discuss inferior deck [/quote] Also included: Ponies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 [quote name='Manjoume Thunder' timestamp='1309977468' post='5332320'] itt: people don't bother to read the title and discuss inferior deck [/quote] Macro Monarchs is a Monarch deck. And I did say that if it's not Monarch Caius is better, unless you can abuse WIND or Winged Beast monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manjoume Thunder Posted July 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 [quote]Macro Monarchs is a Monarch deck.[/quote] what does this have to do with anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ieyasu Tokugawa Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 [quote name='Manjoume Thunder' timestamp='1309978090' post='5332366'] what does this have to do with anything [/quote] Everything. Either way, Caius in general hurts more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Despite the fact I always want to run Raiza, Caius almost always ends up taking his place because he can be re-used with Birdman, and also be Tuned [i]with[/i] Birdman for a permanent Brain Control. So IMO, Caius is more versatile. But of course, all the spikes disregard my opinion as I'm a scrub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkel Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 I would say Raiza. Lots of cards this format are useless if they can't go off, and having to re-draw them hurts your opponent quite a bit. That and obv the Tengu thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infinitysqrd Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 This is realy a matter of what deck type you use. Though Casius is good for getting rid of things, if your opponent draw that same monster while Raiza clears their field of low ATK monsters, you pretty much win especially if you get Raiaza out the first few turns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 [quote name='infinitysqrd' timestamp='1309983011' post='5332659'] This is realy a matter of what deck type you use. Though Casius is good for getting rid of things, if your opponent draw that same monster while Raiza clears their field of low ATK monsters, you pretty much win especially if you get Raiaza out the first few turns. [/quote] Please, leave immediately using the door I just kicked you through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yeezus Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 CASSIUS CLAY CAIUS IS MOHAMMED ALI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDDRodrigo Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 [s]Delg is the best[/s] Caius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Raiza prevents your opponent's [i]heart of the cards draw[/i] for the next few turns if the player stalks. I hate those damn lucky/cheating plays. Hmmmm.. its a matter of the situation. If your opponent has enough defensive tactics but very low LIfe, use Kaius and burn for game. If your opponent has enough Life but lacks a littke in defensive resources, use Raiza and make opponents waste Draw Phase. Under most other situations both of them work about equally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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