Legend Zero Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 [center]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24qFXyHxHws What do you think of the mechanic as a whole?[/center] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiithepeople Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 Tempest Endymion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted October 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1319417333' post='5596801'] What do you think of the mechanic as a whole? [/quote] [quote name='ケニヨン • ボリンガー' timestamp='1319417461' post='5596806'] Tempest Endymion. [/quote] Seriously? Not even the first post is on topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 Crow laughs at it... I have no problem with it as long as your opponent has a chance to play (not counting D.D. Crow or Effect Veiler) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 That video. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 It's badly made for Yugioh. They are either stall or FTK, and stall sucks. The thing is that the stuff that burns does nothing but burn, leaving the user of such burn vulnerable. Forcing the plays to either consist of: a) Burn as much as you can in turn 1 and FTK your opponent. Arbitrary stall cards to make up for what you lack. Which gets boring very quickly. Not to mention both are pretty much auto-pilot. Konami should try to do a burn Deck that plays with a little more player participation. Back and forth, and the such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 Burn decks reduce player-player interaction by a great deal and burn decks have to rely on sacking cards and generally luck to win against any decent deck. The way it's designed right now is terrible: Most burn cards are -1s and the ones that are not usually can't have a deck exactly built around them. Poor mechanic design, and unless some archetype rolls around, Burn decks will continue to suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementuo Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 Chain Burn won at my lolcals today because everyone else drew stupidly poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 I have a burn deck that's neither stall nor FTK (usually). Mine's a mix of FIRE and burn, with cards like Raging Flame Sprite, Solar Flare Dragon, Backfire, etc. But I can also bring out a 4k Ultimate Baseball Kid or something or just use my powered up Raging Flame Sprite to wreak non-direct chaos. So burn can be fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 By definitilon, "fun" Is different things to different people. I find burn decks incredibly boring, and I'd gladly take a deck with a learning curve rather than just "Play this, burn for X, then stall till you draw Z." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 Honestly, I find Burn as a whole to be bad for the game. Damage should require set-up in order to deal, but for some reason others believe otherwise. Thank god that Konami screwed Burn up though. ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 It's one of those flawed concepts, similar to auto win conditions. It's either so good it's broken, which Konami hasn't even managed yet, or it's too bad to warrant using, which Konami has more than managed to succeed in doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 I have a Chain Burn build that I use as a "CPU opponent" when making new decks. I make their sides, etc, and have them duel. If my new deck beats Chain Burn (and some random anti-meta deck I made), it's ready. If it can't beat them, I go fix it. That's how I use Chain Burn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkaiser Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 [quote name='Tristan T. Taylor' timestamp='1319420870' post='5596983'] It's one of those flawed concepts, similar to auto win conditions. It's either so good it's broken, which Konami hasn't even managed yet, or it's too bad to warrant using, which Konami has more than managed to succeed in doing. [/quote][quote name='~Applejack~' timestamp='1319418557' post='5596854'] It's badly made for Yugioh. They are either stall or FTK, and stall sucks. The thing is that the stuff that burns does nothing but burn, leaving the user of such burn vulnerable. Forcing the plays to either consist of: a) Burn as much as you can in turn 1 and FTK your opponent. Arbitrary stall cards to make up for what you lack. Which gets boring very quickly. Not to mention both are pretty much auto-pilot. Konami should try to do a burn Deck that plays with a little more player participation. Back and forth, and the such. [/quote]^Pretty much these. Konami needs to create a new type of burn style. Maybe be all could create a community archetype and brainstorm on how to make burn better. I say that every burn card should have an extra effect and monsters whose effects gives +s when burn occurs. (And to troll FIRE users the archetype should be a Boilng Water archetype) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 Pacman is pretty good and constinent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkaiser Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 [quote name='Noel Vermillion' timestamp='1319463118' post='5597672'] Pacman is pretty good and constinent. [/quote]That falls under stall and burn. Heavy Storm wrecks that deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 [quote name='ΩMEGA KAISER' timestamp='1319463397' post='5597680'] That falls under stall and burn. Heavy Storm wrecks that deck. [/quote] Most traps in there are chainable, and deck regains advantage very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Account is Unplayable Posted October 24, 2011 Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 [quote name='ΩMEGA KAISER' timestamp='1319463397' post='5597680'] That falls under stall and burn. Heavy Storm wrecks that deck. [/quote] A card that happens to be limited to one being able to destroy a deck does not invalidate the deck. Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror devastates Dark Worlds, in theory, but that doesn't make them any less viable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ihop Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 Guys burn is incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 Oh, a burn topic and no one said "the-one-who-name-shall-not-be-said Burn is the best". Good YCM, good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 [quote name='-Makoto-' timestamp='1319563340' post='5599939'] Oh, a burn topic and no one said "the-one-who-name-shall-not-be-said Burn is the best". Good YCM, good. [/quote] That's because "the-one-who-name-shall-not-be-said" burn isn't the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Nu-13 Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 [quote name='Æther Royce' timestamp='1319565948' post='5599990'] That's because "the-one-who-name-shall-not-be-said" burn isn't the best. [/quote] According to 95% of YCM, it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sander Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 [quote name='-Makoto-' timestamp='1319565976' post='5599993'] According to 95% of [b][i]YCM[/i][/b], it is. [/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zkaiser Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 [quote name='Tristan T. Taylor' timestamp='1319463859' post='5597687'] A card that happens to be limited to one being able to destroy a deck does not invalidate the deck. Shadow-Imprisoning Mirror devastates Dark Worlds, in theory, but that doesn't make them any less viable. [/quote]Apparently it did looking at the last YCS. On Topic: Rapid Fire Library is really fun with the awesomeness that is Wonder Wand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted October 25, 2011 Report Share Posted October 25, 2011 I personally think Chain Burn is probably the most formidable Burn deck, not counting FTKs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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