Toffee. Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 [center][img]http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/yugioh/images/thumb/8/8c/HeraldicBeastLeo-JP-Anime-ZX.png/300px-HeraldicBeastLeo-JP-Anime-ZX.png[/img] [quote][center]When the ATK of a monster you control changes: You can banish this card from your Graveyard to target 1 monster your opponent controls; that monster loses ATK equal to the change in ATK.[/center][/quote][/center] >2000 ATK Its a Beast, btw, and also a very obscure Machu Mach. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Doodle Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 Wow, that's a surprise. 2000 ATK with no drawback? Also I see now they like to banish themselves from the graveyard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 Dat 2000 atk horn of the phantom beast target that can also profit off other horns and barbaros drains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newhat Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 No way will this actually be printed. Is this the best they could do for the majestic heraldic lion? Still, it's a Heraldic Beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 Somewhat overpowered IMO. Maybe they'll turn it lv5 so the effect of the Falcon is used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mido9 Posted July 30, 2012 Report Share Posted July 30, 2012 I hope they just decrease it's atk by 200 or something then release it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranma1/2 Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 [quote name='-Berserker-' timestamp='1343683980' post='5993027'] Somewhat overpowered IMO. Maybe they'll turn it lv5 so the effect of the Falcon is used. [/quote] that wouldn't do much, imo. besides, even if this was turned into lvl 5, it wouldn't even be affected by it much, other than the fact that you'd ss it. this would be in the grave to be useful, that's pretty much all that there is to this card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 Actually, it can't be Normal Summoned or Set, according to lolwiki. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Raptor Posted July 31, 2012 Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 According to Ark's translation, that's true. 紋章獣レオ Monshoujyuu Reo (Medallion Beast - Leo) 4 Stars/EARTH/Beast-Type - Effect/2000 ATK/1000 DEF This card cannot be Normal Summoned or Set. Target 1 monster you control whose ATK has been changed and banish this card to apply the following effect: • 1 monster your opponent controls loses ATK equal to the change in ATK of the target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 31, 2012 >Cant be Normal Summoned or Set Lol Sphere Field Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 Anyone remember the scene in the anime where Tron beat 3 people at once on the Duel Coaster, each controlling a monster with over 2400 ATK and each with over 4000 LP? We never see what he did to win. We also never see ANY indication whatsoever in his Duels that his Deck is actually capable of doing this. And all his Heraldry Beasts are underwhelming. So either he's packing an extremely broken Spell or Trap that we'll never see, or the writers were bored and decided to make him look more brokenly powerful than he actually is. At least in 5Ds, Machine Emperor Wisel really was capable of doing tons of damage and overwhelming an opponent unprepared for them in moments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted August 1, 2012 Report Share Posted August 1, 2012 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1343856933' post='5994773'] Anyone remember the scene in the anime where Tron beat 3 people at once on the Duel Coaster, each controlling a monster with over 2400 ATK and each with over 4000 LP? We never see what he did to win. We also never see ANY indication whatsoever in his Duels that his Deck is actually capable of doing this. And all his Heraldry Beasts are underwhelming. So either he's packing an extremely broken Spell or Trap that we'll never see, or the writers were bored and decided to make him look more brokenly powerful than he actually is. At least in 5Ds, Machine Emperor Wisel really was capable of doing tons of damage and overwhelming an opponent unprepared for them in moments. [/quote] Oh how much I agree xD against Droite, she practically killed herself with the obnoxious payment. Against those guys, the big monsters weren't even Xyzs for Number 8's comfort. Even if Number 69 happened to have an effect that could do it, he already stated he was unable to use it prior to Kaito's Duel. Tron must be one of my least favorite villians on all Yugioh generations. He single handedly ruined most of the match ups for the WDC finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted August 2, 2012 Report Share Posted August 2, 2012 I dont have an issue with Tron's plot role in the tournament, but the fact his archetype sucks so badly while portraying him as extremely powerful is a little annoying. So far the only cards he has that are actually good are Number 8, Number 69, and maybe High Medallion Arts. As a character, he's good enough. As a duelist, he's lacking quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut - Envoy of the End Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 [quote name='evilfusion' timestamp='1343930731' post='5995444'] I dont have an issue with Tron's plot role in the tournament, but the fact his archetype sucks so badly while portraying him as extremely powerful is a little annoying. So far the only cards he has that are actually good are Number 8, Number 69, and maybe High Medallion Arts. As a character, he's good enough. As a duelist, he's lacking quite a bit. [/quote] Hey, Aberconwey and Unicore are cool guys. Just Falcon, Basilisk, Yale, Leo and Twin Head Eagle all suck Love the ideas behind Heraldics, just wish they were better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 Yeah, Heraldics suck, and it's horrible considering the fact that they are required for a Numbers. Why did they put Numbers into Archetypes? WHY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 [quote name='slayer_supreme' timestamp='1343971154' post='5996058'] Yeah, Heraldics suck, and it's horrible considering the fact that they are required for a Numbers. Why did they put Numbers into Archetypes? WHY? [/quote] Numbers in Archetypes isn't wrong at all. They adapt to their initial holder, so having SOME in archetypes makes sense. Others, like Atlando, Heaven's Strings, and Giant Killer are implied to be created by Tron as additions to said archetypes. The problem is that they decided to make a specific Numbers, after making any Numbers that wasn't generic in the anime (96, 40) generic in real life. Numers 8 and 22 are blemishes. If they didn't want them ti be abusable in real life, they shouldn't have made their original selves so stupid. That said, Heraldic Beasts suck except Unicorn, who doesn't even fit the deck. No, Aberconway is not good, it works against their main "selling point", High Medallion Arts, and has no good targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted August 3, 2012 Report Share Posted August 3, 2012 I first thought, before I had seen the show, that the Heraldic Beasts would have effects based on removing copies of themselves for effects, but thinking about it, that would really be annoying and suck hardcore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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