Wildflame Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Source: shriek.twoday.net/stories/133338948/ So, a FIRE Structure Deck. Discuss what you think it can bring to the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 I'm personally hoping it'll give FIREs more than just the 200 DEF thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canopy Star - Eon Sphere Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 It says that it goes with the cards from Cosmo Blazar. Given that Return of the Duelist was Earth centric, and Abyss Rising was Water centric, this means we're getting some other decent fire support, which is good, i suppose. What's the odds that the boss monster is horrendously broken OR completely unusable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut - Envoy of the End Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 [quote name='The Seal of Eon' timestamp='1346235400' post='6015218'] It says that it goes with the cards from Cosmo Blazar. Given that Return of the Duelist was Earth centric, and Abyss Rising was Water centric, this means we're getting some other decent fire support, which is good, i suppose. What's the odds that the boss monster is horrendously broken OR completely unusable? [/quote] I'll give you 1:6 And I'm not taking any bets on it having 200 DEF. Hopefully Konami can give it something more expansive than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKPLANT RISING Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Sept. meta is one of the best ones yet so far. I hope they don't wreck it. Thing is, the Christmas Shop War is coming. And remember how LSS and Inzektors made their debut in November packs...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jord200 Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Like I said, its probably going to involve those Flaming Star cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Guys, it's all gonna be about the monsters from the next pack. Which may in fact also work with the Flaming Star cards, but it's definitely not going to be based around the 200 DEF sh*t. It'll work with the pack just like Atlanteans are with Mermails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Give us the Anime FIRE attribute Rota and then all is well in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 [quote name='Canadian' timestamp='1346268361' post='6015475'] Give us the Anime FIRE attribute Rota, [b]Bonfire[/b] and then all is well in the world. [/quote] It's possible because they gave us an anime card as one of the new cards in a previous structure: Celri. In all seriousness I would like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Why does everyone hate Rekindling? Lavals are awesome and top tier because of it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 [quote name='TheFinalFan' timestamp='1346274902' post='6015543'] Why does everyone hate Rekindling? Lavals are awesome and top tier because of it! [/quote] That's the only reason. If anyone's seen me in the RC section, you all know that FIRE monsters are one of my favorite subjects in the world and I've even made my infamous "Flame Barrier"s over and over. I will be p***ed as hell if lolnami f***s up with the new FIRE format they seem to be promising for us. 200 DEF....yeah no. Something new please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 [quote name='Chance Furlong' timestamp='1346276535' post='6015565'] That's the only reason. [/quote] HAHAHAHAH- oh you were serious? No, Rekindling is hated by some people for being horrible card design, even before it was Top Tier. It is a broken ass card that was "okay" because its deck sucked. Except, that is NEVER okay. It will just sit and wait to be the most broken thing in a format; That's the nature of cards like Rekindling. A deck that requires a broken ass card to live deserves to die. A card that overcentralizes a whole attribute in the minds of players is also something that should die. Hopefully this changes things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 [quote name='TheFinalFan' timestamp='1346274902' post='6015543'] Why does everyone hate Rekindling? Lavals are awesome and top tier because of it! [/quote] If a single card is the only thing that's holding up an Archetype/Type/ANYTHING, then there's a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 [quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1346276960' post='6015576'] No, Rekindling is hated by some people for being horrible card design, even before it was Top Tier. It is a broken ass card that was "okay" because its deck sucked. Except, that is NEVER okay. It will just sit and wait to be the most broken thing in a format; That's the nature of cards like Rekindling. A deck that requires a broken ass card to live deserves to die. A card that overcentralizes a whole attribute in the minds of players is also something that should die. Hopefully this changes things. [/quote] THIS! THIS! I REPEAT! THIS is why I don't like the "competitive" FIRE Decks that we have. We need something new, something with more flavor....and not outrageously broken even in design <__< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Sabers Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 I wonder if they'll go the burn route.... "When this card is summoned, inflict 1000 damage to your opponent" Or something like that? Dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strider Tigerwolf Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 [quote name='Wattcobra' timestamp='1346277778' post='6015596'] I wonder if they'll go the burn route.... "When this card is summoned, inflict 1000 damage to your opponent" Or something like that? Dunno. [/quote] If they do, that's fine. If they make an archtype that deals double burn while having an aggro style of play, then I'll know who they stole the idea from. But if they do make a "burn" archtype, they're probably gonna have to do some clear cut thinking on it since burn is tricky to play with and you can wind up making cards OPed without realizing (experienced because I kept retraining my Flame Barriers till I got them just right). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Sabers Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 Yep. For example, with the above card, it could bring a whole new burn to the table. 3x Call of the Haunted, a way to re-summon it again and again. Then the 3x Magic Cylinders on the new list might see some play in something besides chain burn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 What they NEED to figure out how to do is make a competitive burn deck played entirely whilst allowing your Opponent to counter. You know, like any other deck. A burn deck that requires player interaction. Now there's something they should figure out. Make it Sphinx burn. Best idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Berserker- Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 The Flaming Stars are supposed to get more support, so I suppose we could get some more fiery horny monsters there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas★Zero Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 could see some old classics being used in this deck such as... *UFO turtle as a common Fire Searcher. *Solar Flare Dragon which creates a semi attack lock if you get 2 of them out while dealing 1000 points of damage each turn let alone 500 from 1. *Royal Firestorm Guards which are a POA for pyro types with legs where if the deck is considered a large collection of pyro types it could work. Only thing to consider though is that all of the first 3 were beast warriors so not 100% what they would put in this structer for fire reprints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1346279576' post='6015609'] What they NEED to figure out how to do is make a competitive burn deck played entirely whilst allowing your Opponent to counter. You know, like any other deck. A burn deck that requires player interaction. Now there's something they should figure out. Make it Sphinx burn. Best idea. [/quote] They could always go the Grenosaurus route and make having to destroy monsters by battle, or like discarding a FIRE monster to destroy a monster and inflict 800 damage to the opponent. That last one is a bad example, but you get what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend Zero Posted August 29, 2012 Report Share Posted August 29, 2012 [quote name='~British Soul~' timestamp='1346232989' post='6015210'] I'm personally hoping it'll give FIREs more than just the 200 DEF thing. [/quote] [quote name='Agro' timestamp='1346258013' post='6015389'] it's definitely not going to be based around the 200 DEF sh*t. [/quote] >includes many reprints I'm going to remain skeptical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 [quote name='Yuzuru Otonashi' timestamp='1346276960' post='6015576'] HAHAHAHAH- oh you were serious? No, Rekindling is hated by some people for being horrible card design, even before it was Top Tier. It is a broken ass card that was "okay" because its deck sucked. Except, that is NEVER okay. It will just sit and wait to be the most broken thing in a format; That's the nature of cards like Rekindling. A deck that requires a broken ass card to live deserves to die. A card that overcentralizes a whole attribute in the minds of players is also something that should die. Hopefully this changes things. [/quote] But aren't all of the major decks in the upcoming format decks that revolve around 1-2 specific cards? Inzektors: Hornet and Dragonfly Dino Rabbits: Rescue Rabbit Dark Worlds: Grapha and Snoww Madolches: Magiliene and Tiaramisu Gishki: Gustkraken Chaos Dragons: REDRUM Give me a top-tier deck that doesn't follow this trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 [quote name='TheFinalFan' timestamp='1346292317' post='6015738'] But aren't all of the major decks in the upcoming format decks that revolve around 1-2 specific cards? Inzektors: Hornet and Dragonfly Dino Rabbits: Rescue Rabbit Dark Worlds: Grapha and Snoww Madolches: Magiliene and Tiaramisu Gishki: Gustkraken Chaos Dragons: REDRUM Give me a top-tier deck that doesn't follow this trend. [/quote] And that implies it's good design? The metagame's a giant mess of badly designed stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted August 30, 2012 Report Share Posted August 30, 2012 [quote name='Legend Zero' timestamp='1346282187' post='6015651'] >includes many reprints I'm going to remain skeptical. [/quote] The fact that it contains many reprints makes me wonder whether or not they'll go down that route. If they don't go down that route, it could be a Volcanic SD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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