Agro Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 People at my locals called this loop more inconsistent than the Gustaph one because it can be stopped by one Veiler (or other eff negater). I proceeded to show them that it, in fact, takes 2 Veiler and that the Gustaph loop can be stopped with one. Anyway, this card is stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilfusion Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 It's cool in the sense of the non-generic Materials, and the burn effect is interesting in that it's based off cards on the Field. But it's notoriously stupid because Fusion Gate and Chain Material exist. It should have been "The effect of Blaze Fenix can only be activated once per turn". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The ReBeL Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 the above. at YCS Austin i was sitting to Robert about his deck on friday before the event since me and teammate matthew weren't suppose to share it. After the event Chain Material was like a 10 buck card and everyone was making the electrum and this otk everywhere. Chain Material Fusion Gate is a stupid otk but Konami likes 2 card killers. Divalo MagiShark ChainGate ColossalArmoryArm etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miror B Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 Actually I think Gustaph would take 2 as well depending on how many fusion Materials for Electrum you have. If you can make 2 Electrum you're fine against 1 Veiler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 >Stopped by 1 cardRai-Oh for GeargiasMacro for MermailsetcAlso, yea, card only exists for OTKs :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 PSSSSST, I'M NOT SAYING HARPIE DANCER IS THE PROBLEM *COUGH* the above. at YCS Austin i was sitting to Robert about his deck on friday before the event since me and teammate matthew weren't suppose to share it. After the event Chain Material was like a 10 buck card and everyone was making the electrum and this otk everywhere. Chain Material Fusion Gate is a stupid otk but Konami likes 2 card killers. Divalo MagiShark ChainGate ColossalArmoryArm etc. It's funny cause Colossal Armory Arm was reruled to be a 3 card kill. Great success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 Ban it. All it is used for is OTKs. I don't like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 Just Ban the f***er already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildflame Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 I..., I actually like this card. I love Phoenix-like things, its non generic materials are an interesting touch, and I like burn effects in big bodies. I really hate that it's abused by Fusion Gate and Chain Material (awful), and I'm pretty certain that without those loops this could be a fun card for casual decks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted April 4, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 Actually I think Gustaph would take 2 as well depending on how many fusion Materials for Electrum you have. If you can make 2 Electrum you're fine against 1 Veiler. You'd only lose 4000 Life Points. If you veiler the 3rd Electrum, they got nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cute Rotten Yoshika Posted April 4, 2013 Report Share Posted April 4, 2013 this card is pretty awful design, but chain material is more awful design. id rather see it go first, but ideally both would be gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resident Fascist Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 Stupid degenerate OTK/FTK card that should just go die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 Maybe it's burn is a tad big as the alternate route it is, but I don't think that other than that, this is significantly bad without Chain Material's existence. It'd pretty much just be a good deck boss, or is there something else I'm missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 For f**** sake people, Harpie Dancer is a Goddamned card. Removing Chain Material doesn't make this thing not FTK/OTK at all, it just makes it do it differently. Harpie Dancer uses Divine Wind, Genex Ally Birdman, Genex Blastfan, Ancient Fairy Dragon, Power Tool Dragon, Black Garden, and Fusion Gate. But none of those inherently make it OTK without this thing existing. It wouldn't be a 2 card FTK, unless it somehow could do the same with Random Gustavs, but it doesn't seem that's the case. The fact that another O/FTK uses this without Chain Material shows that it's JUST as much a problem as Chain Material, who is in the wrong for all of its OTKs and FTKs over this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 I hat this card with a passion in the fact that it's badly designed and because Chain Material exists to abuse it. Ideally, I'd prefer it if weren't printed in the first place, but more ideally, I would like Chain Material go because it restricts fusion card design. Then again I would also like Harpie Dancer to go die in a fire as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aix Posted April 5, 2013 Report Share Posted April 5, 2013 Okay. Seriously, all that needs to go are this and Chain Material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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