Thomas★Zero Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Rank 3 Dark Zombie/Xyz/Effect 2 Level 3 monsters Once per turn, during your opponent's turn: You can detach 1 Xyz Material from this card; Special Summon ? "Phantom Tokens" (DARK/Fiend-Type/Level 3/ATK 500/DEF 500). While you control a "Phantom Token", this card cannot be targeted for an attack. This card gains 500 ATK for each "Phantom Token" you control. ATK/1800 DEF/0 ? am guessing will be 2... Still interesting how if you get 4 tokens out it basically becomes a 3800 beater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 It feels bad as is.. Very bad Aside from being a Zombie Xyz monster. Well, depending on it's stats of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas★Zero Posted July 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 It feels bad as is.. Very bad Aside from being a Zombie Xyz monster. Well, depending on it's stats of course. 1800/0 and as I said 4 tokens with it make it a 3800 beater... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 It feels bad as is.. Very bad Aside from being a Zombie Xyz monster. Well, depending on it's stats of course. It's stats on the wikia says 1800 derp Ninja... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 1800/0 and as I said 4 tokens with it make it a 3800 beater... I stopped reading your thing halfway down the page. Just before that part. The issue with it is: If it's only two tokens, you use the effect, it becomes a 2800 beater, your opponent slaps one of the tokens most likely, and you are stuck at 2300, which is below the curve of stuff you need to hit over. I'm not going to say it's bad because it's token reliant. But I'll say it's bad for being token reliant for a minor attack boost. Even if it adds up. I mean if it's 4 tokens per material detached, it's really good. But if it's only two which is likely, it just feels meh to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Althemia Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 I mean if it's 4 tokens per material detached, it's really good. But if it's only two which is likely, it just feels meh to me.It created 4 in the manga, so I wouldn't be surprised if it did the same irl. Especially since creating 4 Tokens but having your boss be destroyable by cards effects is relevant.The card's worth is literally down to how many Tokens it can spawn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 So for a Tour Guide, I can make a 2800 beater and 2 500 pipsqueaks. Another card where the manga version did need reining in, and it's far from the worst Number, but it's competing with a lot of Good Rank 3s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 It can be used in Mecha Phantom Beas- *shot* It's nice to see an influx of Xyzs that are of types that have been neglected in this latest Series up until now. Now, we just need a Rank 4 Zombie Xyz, and we're golden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A._Sakuyamon Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 If it's 4 tokens wouldn't this then almost completely out class Acid Golem (save for effect negation)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zazubat Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 If it's 4 tokens wouldn't this then almost completely out class Acid Golem (save for effect negation)? Well, it still needs space for them, and if it's "up to", then it's just bonkers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 I wouldn't be at all surprised if they nerf'd it to only spawn out 2 tokens tbh. On another note if the previous VB promos (69 and 88 as well as 11 and 16) are anything to go by, either this or Dragoascension will be released in a booster whilst the other will be a JUMP promo, or perhaps they'll both be released in a booster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 >Can't be targeted for an attack while you control a Phantom Token...Had a feeling it would end up like that.I mean, the anime effect was flat-out ridiculous, so this is as close to it as we can get. Or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 If it's 4 tokens wouldn't this then almost completely out class Acid Golem (save for effect negation)?"Once per turn, during your opponent's turn" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 >Can't be targeted for an attack while you control a Phantom Token ...Had a feeling it would end up like that. I mean, the manga effect was flat-out ridiculous, so this is as close to it as we can get. Or something like that. Yeah, the manga version was flat-out ridiculous. "Oh you wanna kill me? Too bad! Wa- I'm just gonna spawn out my own Magical Hats and you'll just have to find me mwa-haha." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier Alexander Romanov Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Number_48:_Shadow_Lich Lolwiki has this listed as 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azuh Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 Wait... Lich... Adventure Time.dek is nearly complete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerion Brightflame Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 How the feth have we forgotten that if it makes 2+ tokens it becomes a EEV target? Since, that seems important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 How the feth have we forgotten that if it makes 2+ tokens it becomes a EEV target? Since, that seems important.Add to it, it's playable through Guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonk Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 I can now safely say that this is the best Rank 3 monster without suffering from any reprocussions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 16, 2013 Report Share Posted July 16, 2013 I can now safely say that this is the best Rank 3 monster without suffering from any reprocussions. No, you can't. It depends on the tokens. If it says up to 4, it's up there with Leviair, though not certainly best. If it says 4, it's as good as Leviathan Dragon for a starter. Inflexible, though, so not near as good as Leviair. If it says 3, it's awkward, but has Synchro Shenanigans. Same for up to 3, but up to is better. If it says 2, it's still good for EEV Fodder with Synchro Shenanigans. Same for up to 2, but up to is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppeli Gyro Supreme Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 I don't think it's horrible, but because it summons on the opponent's turn it stops itself from being amazing, unless it summons more than 2 tokens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Dude Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Maybe you guys forgot, but the tokens could be targets for other monsters and there is a limit to how many can be made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Maybe you guys forgot, but the tokens could be targets for other monsters and there is a limit to how many can be made. Thank you, captain really blatantly obvious. We didn't realize. I mean, it's not like a generic starter at 2800/3300/3800 that spawns fuel for Synchros and Tributes could ever be good, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 I'll assume you mean 3300, unless I missed something. But Black's right, this thing puts usable material right up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airride Posted July 17, 2013 Report Share Posted July 17, 2013 Xyz Reborn it during their End Phase and use the effect then as well? =Y Seems like a really cool and almost quirky card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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