Tentacruel Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 So Pitbulls are statistically more likely to attack humans than other dogs. People who really like dogs don't like this statistic, which is understandable. However, people get really mad, furious even, throwing words like ignorant and misinformed around without providing much else in way of argument. I don't like pitbulls. Yes, I'm biased. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shradow Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 I'm already afraid of a lot of kinds of dogs past a certain size threshold (not Saint Bernards, love those guys), which pitbulls are above. Toss in the fact they're known for attacking people, I try to stay the hell away from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted July 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 It's just that after every pitbull attack you hear people going full damage control about how people need to be educated that it's all some myth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Flyer - Sakura Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 As far as I know, pitbulls are considered dangerous. Anyone gets bitten by them, the only fate for said dog is being put down. However, one of my neighbors has a pair of pit bulls (I never saw them), but they're said to be well behaved and not attack people. Pretty much, it's the owner who lets the dog do whatever it wants; thus leading to people getting bitten or something. Granted, some people do train them to protect their homes in case of invasion, but special care MUST be taken with pit bulls, especially considering the statistic/their genetics. To be honest, I don't especially like dogs (ironically, that's my zodiac animal), especially because of a black one that used to live behind us that wouldn't shut up barking/kept poking its nose through the fence (enough that my parents can't clean our own yard). and a pair at the beginning of my street that chased me while walking home [said owner did not have dog on leash; luckily only small one got loose; if big one came around (it's quite large, well it wouldn't be nice)]. There are 1-2 dogs that I like, however, mainly because they don't bite people (helps that they're around kids a lot, so they get tame after a while; one is a terrier, the other is a dalmatian [and pretty much the one and only dog who has ever licked me]). In a way, they're okay provided they're on a leash and properly trained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cin Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 It works both ways, the owner must train the dog correctly and respect their strength. It's what happens when you own a dog that is built to not let go when they've bitten something. I remember hearing a case of someone who had to break the dog's jaw before the dog a pitbull type dog let go. Any dog is dangerous, Pitbull type dogs have the strength to back that up, which is why they getting in the news more because they do more damage, but any dog will turn when threatened like any animal. I was afraid of dogs until I got my little dog in 07 (A dog when I was about 5 stole the glove off my hand). Although I did walk with my friends' dog when I was about 9 or 10 and was ok with it (He was a Lab or a Retriever) and was alright around my neighbour's old Yorkie before she saddly passed. My little dog would say hello to loads of dogs when he was a puppy so I sort of got over it, especially when he would say hello to 2 German Shepards at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted July 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 I thought of a good analogy based on what Yin said. It's like owning a gun. You have to respect its power and realize that it can be dangerous without proper ownership. Some gun advocates also tend to get very angry when you point out that guns are very dangerous. You have to respect that danger and be responsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahamut - Envoy of the End Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 I thought of a good analogy based on what Yin said. It's like owning a gun. You have to respect its power and realize that it can be dangerous without proper ownership. Some gun advocates also tend to get very angry when you point out that guns are very dangerous. You have to respect that danger and be responsible. Let's be honest though: A lot of the people who own Pitballs, and other 'banned breeds' that we have in Britain, aren't exactly the responsbile type. They know they are capable of ripping someone's leg off. They're just quite happy that is the case and often raise them to do it/are such lousy mistreating owners they develop that attitude. =/ There is a stereotype that comes with having a Pitbull. But you can't exactly say that stereotype has been tagged unfairly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tentacruel Posted July 5, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 Let's be honest though: A lot of the people who own Pitballs, and other 'banned breeds' that we have in Britain, aren't exactly the responsbile type. They know they are capable of ripping someone's leg off. They're just quite happy that is the case and often raise them to do it/are such lousy mistreating owners they develop that attitude. =/ There is a stereotype that comes with having a Pitbull. But you can't exactly say that stereotype has been tagged unfairly. I don't like to judge/stereotype, but I was also thinking this. It's not all people that purposely train them to be killers, but also people that are so opposed to the possibility of a dog hurting someone that they aren't careful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
·Toot Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 Its not in the dog's nature to be a killer and not always the owner's fault. I believe its their upbringing. Its sorta like how humans think since they were raised in a tough/bad neighborhood makes them this hard badass mofo. All it takes is proper training. Oh and pitbulls are ugly and give off that evil vibe imo. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agro Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 To be fair, like several other types of dogs, Pitbulls are a breed that was bred to be more aggressive. Then again, so were Chow Chows, Dalmations, and Huskies. It does come down to nurture in this case, though, as selective breeding has changed for these types of dogs over the years/decades/centuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 Nobody likes a pitbull. My point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Avian Posted July 6, 2014 Report Share Posted July 6, 2014 They were bred to be aggressive, but the only real experience I've had with one was a dog belonging to a bro. The dog only ever bit me once and that was because I was trying to take his chew toy, but he released fairly quickly once I tried to pull away. Other than that one time, it was pretty docile. I don't have any other experience than that dog to really say anything about the breed as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goose Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 It's doesn't matter that they are more likely to attack humans unless we have some cutoff point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Βyakuya Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Kj8mlJK38w&index=2&list=UU9kMnSZQd53hE-1sb1f9sdA This would be the most relevant video seeing how some pitbulls can really mess a small child up. I don't own any pets, but if this is what they are in nature, then it's something an owner must consider and try to manipulate nurture over nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 Any human/dog relationship is inherently disturbing. Let dogs take care of dogs and humans take care of humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 One of my friends had a Pitbull named Tyson. He was one of the most friendly and loving dogs ever. Unfortunatly he got Weak Bones in his old age but died peacefully. Its all about the owner. Just remember though that all Dogs still have a Pack instinct along with the hunting drive. This is why the moment they taste blood, they need to be destroyed. A lot of people use Pitbull's as a status symbol or to make people scared. Those idiots should never be able to keep a dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~ P O L A R I S ~ Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 Just remember though that all Dogs still have a Pack instinct along with the hunting drive. This is why the moment they taste blood, they need to be destroyed. Is that actually a thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted July 15, 2014 Report Share Posted July 15, 2014 Is that actually a thing? It is. Once a Dog has tasted human blood, it thinks of all humans as Prey (essentially a Rabbit) and will attack anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar Origins Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 I... severely doubt that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormented Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 My mother looks after dogs for a living and has been doing it for 5+ years, in the two times I've been around pitbulls neither one have been aggressive IN FACT smaller dogs are always much more aggresive and more likely to bit a victim (in my experience) than something of a larger dog. IT IS ENTIRELY DOWN TO THE OWNER AND HOW THE DOG HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP, also that blood mentality is utter s***-I'm sorry, it's a very common occurrence to feed dogs uncooked meats and it doesn't turn them into killers, tasting human blood isn't likely to turn most dogs into hunters UNLESS they have been trained to be a hunting/gun dog. You shouldn't be letting young children around excitable dogs anyway, the young child is far more likely to be hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Max Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Uncooked meats? You mean things like Cows, Sheep and the like? Wild Dogs hunt animals like that anyway. They do NOT hunt humans (Well they are not meant to anyway). Introducing human blood to them ignites their inbuilt hunting instinct and human then gets put on the menu. +Aloso to add that a Dogs hunting instinct has been handed down through Evolution. Its like a switch, all it needs is to be pushed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tormented Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 I think you missed the second part of my comment JMax, whenever a dog has ever bitten anyone for the years I've been around them-they have never tried to carry on. It's not something that instantly happens, if anything it will only happen in aggressive dogs. (which coincidentally always seems to be small dogs, the buggers) The switch can often times be contained through a decent amount of training from an appropriate trainer which afaik it's only deeply inherited in some of the hunter type dogs. ((pitbulls are historically aggressive though)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCowCowCowCowCowCowCowCow Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Dogs do not taste blood and go on killing spree. That's crazy talk. I had a dog that bit someone when provoked, he was perfectly fine and didn't go after humans. Some dog breeds are a bit more aggressive, yes. But it comes down to how they're treated. Any dog will attack if provoked and treated badly. But some dogs, even aggressive breeds, are perfectly okay with children crawling on them and pulling their ears. It's all a matter of how they're raised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dracoswag Posted July 23, 2014 Report Share Posted July 23, 2014 My uncle raised and brought up Pitbulls as a business for some time. I have not been in touch with him for a while though, so I am unsure if he is still in the Pitbull raising business. For the times I have been around the pitbulls he raised and took care of, not once have I experienced any of them to be aggressive towards me (if anything at all, the only aggressiveness they have shown is through playfulness and not as a defensive.) I do not beleive Pitbulls would naturally attack a Human or anyone for that matter unless they feel like they are threatened (My uncle mentioned too me that the Pits he raised never harmed him or his kids unless it was by accidental means.) I asked him what he meant by "accidental" and he went about saying "It was a mistake I made last time. Diamond (one of the names of the Female Pitbulls he had) was pregnant, but I did not get the chance to check up on her. Tank (A rather large pitbull that scared the bejeebus out of me when I was a kid lol) was the father at the time. I saw diamond laying down and panting heavily, so I assumed she may be pregnant at that time so I decided to go check up on here. Of course, I did not think ahead and approached her and Tank rather suddenly, and that is when Tank got defensive and barked at me, and he appeared like he would get in a much more defensive stance if I came closer, but I managed to calm him down and he backed off so I could check Diamond." My speculation after he said that was Tank's natural instinct to protect his mate that was In heat/pregnant. Furthermore, Pitbulls wont ever attack others unless they themselves fear their lives are at risk OR you are endangering one of their own (At least in my opinion, that is how it works.) I am no professional on pits, I only know what I know about them after being around them when I was a kid. A lot of pitbulls are actually nice in my experience. The only time I EVER saw a dog be aggressive towards me was this stray chihuahua barking at me excessively and closing in on me to bark more. I simply ignored it and continued walking minding my own business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thar Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 I'll take my leave now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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