-kyo- Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 During your Battle Phase: Fusion Summon 1 Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck, using monsters from your hand or your side of the field as Fusion Materials. http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Supremacy_Fusion not bad please discuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mshends Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 This card put flash fusion to shame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maeriberii Haan Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 During your Battle Phase: Fusion Summon 1 Fusion Monster from your Extra Deck, using monsters from your hand or your side of the field as Fusion Materials. http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Supremacy_Fusion not bad please discuss It's really neat tbh. Fluffals can definitely use it to push for an OTK with Wolf, and dolls can use this for extra copies of El-Shaddoll Fusion if they for some reasons needed it. Coupled with things like Rune eyes is also neat. Definitely need more generic-ish fusions qq. Hopefully this gets released someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 This card put flash fusion to shame It's definitely what Flash Fusion should have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas★Zero Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 It's definitely what Flash Fusion should have been.Along with El Shaddoll Fusion since this atm is generic and doesn't have a once per turn clause (depending on if it will be made.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Along with El Shaddoll Fusion since this atm is generic and doesn't have a once per turn clause (depending on if it will be made.) They may well nerf it for the OCG if they do release it, but being able to use the hand puts it miles ahead of Flash Fusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slinky Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Along with El Shaddoll Fusion since this atm is generic and doesn't have a once per turn clause (depending on if it will be made.) El-Shaddoll Fusion isn't limited to the battle phase and this card isn't as easily searchable/recylcable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 It's definitely what Flash Fusion should have been.No, it isn't... We don't want more El-Shaddoll Fusion enablers. It's more restrictive but generic, and cards that lead to OTKs like this are not healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 No, it isn't... We don't want more El-Shaddoll Fusion enablers. It's more restrictive but generic, and cards that lead to OTKs like this are not healthy. Then what do you suggest for support for the Fusion mechanic as a whole? Or should it just stay casual outside of 1 or 2 archetypes? This is a serious question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 It shouldn't need Quickplay Fusion spells to be worth it =x Personally, I think Covenant with the Swamp King is a fine card. Has a drawback, in a deck that WANTS to filter in the grave, not so much miracle fusion until LATE game, and gives you (at present) a decent boss with the potential to RESTORE advantage. Any fusion that breaks it will be at fault, not swamp King. And it's semi-generic without accessing the Evil Heroes. Blazeman makes Polymerization a better generic card, as does Fluffal Owl. And their decks can both use it well. The problem with Fusion as a whole is that it just takes your advantage and runs with it, never returning. It's why a deck like Fluffals is SO +1 heavy. Instead of making the fusions able to regain advantage, they made them extremely offensive and made the entire deck about amassing advantage to slug the opponent with. If they were less OTK-oriented and more aimed at some semblance of preserving advantage, they'd be a lot better, and they don't have to resort to archetypal fusion cards (though Frightfur Fusion would be a plus, and they can run Swamp King in theory). Then we have dolls... Whose only problems are Shaddoll Fusion, El-Shaddoll Fusion (which I always thought it was, just didn't realize how much of one), and possibly SSG. Dishonorable mention to Falco as well. The dolls themselves are mostly fine, and their fusion spells are a result of power creep. Dragon is even a wonderful card, design and application. But their fusion spells are not fine, in theory. However, the controlling nature of dolls makes more sense given how the mechanic requires you to theoretically lose advantage. In fact, a lot of Fusion deck's get geared towards OTKing, and that's part of what brings them down. They cost too much for a shot at a quick win. Gem-Knights and Fluffals are both big examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 No, it isn't... We don't want more El-Shaddoll Fusion enablers. It's more restrictive but generic, and cards that lead to OTKs like this are not healthy. Then what do you feel Flash Fusion should have been? Because it's no less OTK-oriented than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 The difference is that flash fusion punishes you if it fails. It's not exactly fine itself, but it has a pair of 'drawbacks'. It should be restricted to outside of the BP and possibly keep "monsters on the field" as a drawback. Though, with the game advancing, I think not being treated as Polymerization is a big drawback. Note: I don't know what its usage was in the anime. If it was used in the BP, then it should be tackled differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Note: I don't know what its usage was in the anime. If it was used in the BP, then it should be tackled differently. It was used in the Battle Phase, as it was used after Yuya used Pinch Help to bring out Thunderhino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blake Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 It was used in the Battle Phase, as it was used after Skeeter Skimmer used its effect.I meant flash fusion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 I meant flash fusion My mistake, and yeah Flash Fusion had been used in the Battle Phase at least once in GX, for example in the duel with Marcel when Jaden was hoping to destroy Chaos Core after it ran out of counters (2 of which were removed in that turn's BP) The other two times it was used (outside the two times it was milled), were also in the BP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 My mistake, and yeah Flash Fusion had been used in the Battle Phase at least once in GX, for example in the duel with Marcel when Jaden was hoping to destroy Chaos Core after it ran out of counters (2 of which were removed in that turn's BP) The other two times it was used (outside the two times it was milled), were also in the BP. It was used four times in GX, thrice by Judai and once by Hell Kaiser, and all of them were in the Battle Phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~British Soul~ Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 and all of them were in the Battle Phase. I know that. *looks at previous post* It was used four times in GX, thrice by Judai and once by Hell Kaiser, I stand corrected as I forgot about the first time it used used. I assumed it was milled because his opponent's strategy to mill Jaden's deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffee. Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 So.... GX's Flash Fusion/"Instant Fusion" is what this was, then was nerfed, and now we see this which is what Flash was supposed to be? Neat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeline15 Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 I'll be a bit surprised if this is released as-is, but I hope it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
玄魔の王 Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 So.... GX's Flash Fusion/"Instant Fusion" is what this was, then was nerfed, and now we see this which is what Flash was supposed to be? Neat. No, Flash Fusion was almost unchanged saved for chaning "return to the Extra Deck" to "destroy". I'm saying this is what Flash Fusion should have been buffed into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heraldry_lord Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Can you imagine if Konami just said "**** it", and made Flash Fusion a generic El-Shaddoll Fusion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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