Crystal Rose (CORE)

[玄魔の王]

nothing you described was balanced or wwell designed in any way

"it's okay just spam gem-knights for the turn... like you would anyways!"

._.

We're talking about Konami's idea of balancing here. Just be grateful they don't balance tires or chequebooks.

Though I do seem to remember the previous MONTH for Gem-Knights being to spam high-rank Xyz for OTKs.

[Blake]

We're talking about Konami's idea of balancing here. Just be grateful they don't balance tires or chequebooks.

Though I do seem to remember the previous MONTH for Gem-Knights being to spam high-rank Xyz for OTKs.

I mean they do xyz, but if you give them brilliant diamond and the fufu why do yhey need to make -X Xyz msot times instead of just going for the throat

[Maeriberii Haan]

Lady Diamond and Brilliant Fusion'll just make G-K's OTKs more and more ridiculous.

 

Idc if that makes them relevant. The concept alone felt kinda disgusting tbh.

[玄魔の王]

Lady Diamond and Brilliant Fusion'll just make G-K's OTKs more and more ridiculous.

Idc if that makes them relevant. The concept alone felt kinda disgusting tbh.

Probably, but when has that ever stopped Konami?

[Thomas★Zero]

........*facecake*

[spoiler=I don't know why your face caking?]

Its funny cuz their the same robot from two different versions of the Transformer show but match Yuzu and Matsumi's colours[/spoiler]

OT: its defiantly a interesting Prisma for Gem Knight and Melodious.

[iCherries]

I honestly think the concept of dual-archetype support isn't a bad idea.

Just not in this case with two decks that have nothing in common. One's a fusion deck and the other is a deck that doesn't want to fuse even though its fusions aren't bad. "Okay".

Zefras at least became an entire multi-archetyped deck for them to make sense.

[Maeriberii Haan]

I honestly think the concept of dual-archetype support isn't a bad idea.

Just not in this case with two decks that have nothing in common. One's a fusion deck and the other is a deck that doesn't want to fuse even though its fusions aren't bad. "Okay".

Zefras at least became an entire multi-archetyped deck for them to make sense.

 

Only reason for this existence is pretty much yuri couple shipping anime story purpose so yeah.

[iCherries]

I know it's for lesbians anime flavor but it's still very, very stupid the way it's executed imo.

[Pchi]

Leavins stupid nitpicks aside ¬¬, I wonder if they're going to release a Melodious monster whose effects activates upon being sent to the Graveyard now that they have their own Armageddon Knight. I figure that 2300 ATK Level 4 Yuzu played against Halil, who couldn't attack the turn she was Summoned, could act like a Glassjaw of sorts, and search for a Melodious monster from the Grave or even the Deck.

[Blake]

Leavins stupid nitpicks aside ¬¬, I wonder if they're going to release a Melodious monster whose effects activates upon being sent to the Graveyard now that they have their own Armageddon Knight. I figure that 2300 ATK Level 4 Yuzu played against Halil, who couldn't attack the turn she was Summoned, could act like a Glassjaw of sorts, and search for a Melodious monster from the Grave or even the Deck.

It's not a stupid nitpick, it's a genuine point about a poor flavor design choice.

[Maeriberii Haan]

not to mention this is all kinds of awkward since GK has already an entire lore going on for them in their universe.

[Jord200]

not to mention this is all kinds of awkward since GK has already an entire lore going on for them in their universe.

 

 

Ok, fair enough. You have a very valid point there.

[Pchi]

It's not a stupid nitpick, it's a genuine point about a poor flavor design choice.

This card literally exists IRL solely to be a reference to the bond between the two girls in the anime, much like cards like Unity, YuJo Friendship and Symbol of Friendship do not make sense outside of the series' context. Think of it as a non-canonical part of the GK and Melodious' lore, much like the DBZ movies. You all are getting too worked up over something silly, TBH. Even if it's got complex rules and exorbitant prices (at least in the parallel trading), in the end of the day, Yu-Gi-Oh! is a Children's Card Game, since Konami goes out of the way to promote it to kids, releasing anime and manga spin-offs explicitly targeted at younger audiences and even applying censorship to cards with inappropriate content in the West. We're no more than a mere periphery demographic to Konmoney, even if we provide them a large percentage of their profits with the game.

[Blake]

This card literally exists IRL solely to be a reference to the bond between the two girls in the anime, much like cards like Unity, YuJo Friendship and Symbol of Friendship do not make sense outside of the series' context. Think of it as a non-canonical part of the GK and Melodious' lore, much like the DBZ movies. You all are getting too worked up over something silly, TBH. Even if it's got complex rules and exorbitant prices (at least in the parallel trading), in the end of the day, Yu-Gi-Oh! is a Children's Card Game, since Konami goes out of the way to promote it to kids, releasing anime and manga spin-offs explicitly targeted at younger audiences and even applying censorship to cards with inappropriate content in the West. We're no more than a mere periphery demographic to Konmoney, even if we provide them a large percentage of their profits with the game.

The only person I see getting worked up here is you, and it's to tell people to stop caring about something illogical.

Yugioh isn't a children's cads game at the end of the day. It's marketed as such in the west, but not so much in the East, it's place of origin.

It's a terrible design choice to introduce a card that links two thinks that are not linked in any way.

Even your attempts to name cards that don't make sense out of context doesn't work because they aren't the same thing. They're a set of cards depicting the same characters interacting. And symbol is a blatant smile drawn on 4 people's hands... No context really needed.

This links two archetypes that, by every other source martial Konami has made, exist in different planes. Cards from the ZeXal anime did this at times, but none of those saw the light of day. There's no sense of flavor or coherency I making a card that links two archetypes blatantly unrelated, and you can't say there is. The DBZ argument also fails because that is a completely different medium.

[Pchi]

The only person I see getting worked up here is you, and it's to tell people to stop caring about something illogical.

Yugioh isn't a children's cads game at the end of the day. It's marketed as such in the west, but not so much in the East, it's place of origin.

It's a terrible design choice to introduce a card that links two thinks that are not linked in any way.

Even your attempts to name cards that don't make sense out of context doesn't work because they aren't the same thing. They're a set of cards depicting the same characters interacting. And symbol is a blatant smile drawn on 4 people's hands... No context really needed.

This links two archetypes that, by every other source martial Konami has made, exist in different planes. Cards from the ZeXal anime did this at times, but none of those saw the light of day. There's no sense of flavor or coherency I making a card that links two archetypes blatantly unrelated, and you can't say there is. The DBZ argument also fails because that is a completely different medium.

You tell me what you did in your previous rant wasn't getting worked up? ¬¬ I'm not the one who's revolted at a mere piece of cardboard not fitting on some confusing bullshit storyline's continuity.

And it's still heavily marketed towards children in the East, it's just their ideas of what's appropriate for them there are very different from ours; the TV show is aired on a time slot reserved for a younger audience, full of children ads, with their marketing campaign putting higher emphasis on the cards featured on said show, which also tend to be more kid-friendly in appearance. The success of ZeXal, compared to 5D's, is all due to focusing more on a younger demographic. And those are the reasons why they didn't bother with making sense out of Crystal Rose's design in the first place; the things we old farts care about always come second.

Honestly, I'm starting to think you're just trying to desperately convince yourself you're not spending all your precious savings on a game designed to appeal to 10-year olds out of some ulterior insecurity. That must be also why you treat anyone who DARES to commit a noob mistake or insist to disagree with you like trash, speaking in a very rude and condescending tone and throwing insults at them from time to time. You should've already noticed by this point the only reason people tolerate your despicable attitude is due to your somewhat useful advices about the TCG. And that makes me pity you even more.

[CLG Klavier]

How about you all just shut up finallly? The card is gonna get released whether it's a good "design choice" or not and you can't do anything about it. Period.

[The Warden]

I honestly just thought the choice was made to at least provide some anime flavour, without Konmoney making a recurring E-HERO Prisma, because everyone just loves Prisma's design right?

[玄魔の王]

I honestly just thought the choice was made to at least provide some anime flavour, without Konmoney making a recurring E-HERO Prisma, because everyone just loves Prisma's design right?

It's more than that. Even if you had it reveal a Fusion and send something that can be used as its material, you can send literally any monster in the game bar the Egyptian Gods, which was probably more powerful than they wanted. Blame writing backing them into a corner.

[evilfusion]

This card is simply the price to pay for one of the anime series showcasing RL archetypes. We get random support cards. We see dumb plot devices. BUT...We see awesome RL archetypes. 

 

Crystal Rose made almost no sense to be in Masumi's Deck in the first place, other than her gem motif. The RL version better justifies why such a card would be included in a skilled Gem-Knight Duelist's Deck, as well as its future application in Yuzu's Melodious Fusion Deck. The fact it caters ONLY to those Decks is not a problem. It just limits its use in other Decks. It doesn't even link the two Decks to imply they need to be unified or anything ridiculous like that. It just supports both, which keeps the anime flavor of Rose being given to Yuzu by Masumi after the latter lost.

 

It doesn't directly affect either archetype's lore, because it's not connected to the events of the DT story, and...Melodious has lore?

[vla1ne]

This card is simply the price to pay for one of the anime series showcasing RL archetypes. We get random support cards. We see dumb plot devices. BUT...We see awesome RL archetypes. 
 
Crystal Rose made almost no sense to be in Masumi's Deck in the first place, other than her gem motif. The RL version better justifies why such a card would be included in a skilled Gem-Knight Duelist's Deck, as well as its future application in Yuzu's Melodious Fusion Deck. The fact it caters ONLY to those Decks is not a problem. It just limits its use in other Decks. It doesn't even link the two Decks to imply they need to be unified or anything ridiculous like that. It just supports both, which keeps the anime flavor of Rose being given to Yuzu by Masumi after the latter lost.
 
It doesn't directly affect either archetype's lore, because it's not connected to the events of the DT story, and...Melodious has lore?

essentially this.

also, melodious don't have lore as of yet, but they might get their own story soon if the deck becomes popular enough, not to mention it's used by one of the main characters of the anime, to the best of my knowledge, many of the archetypes used by popular characters in the anime have gotten at least minimal lore or massive amounts of support, someties both (HEROES, Blackwings, onomatopoeia theme(?) blue-eyes, red-eyes, and cyber dragons, from what I know of the anime were all used by popular characters, and they've al gotten massive support, and in the case of cybers, blue-eyes, and heroes, they also have gotten some minor storylines implemented in their card art)